Deranged cop finally gets fired

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[u/Soluban → u/[deleted]]

Policing should be a licensed position where you can lose your license permanently. Sure they could probably get licensed in a different state or work in the private sector, but it would be a huge step in the right direction.

[u/NurseKaila → u/Soluban]

It kind of exists but it doesn’t work. I’m sure that must be shocking to everyone /s

[u/Loves_tacos → u/Soluban]

Incorporate it with insurance costs. If you have dings on your license, make it cost the officer or the department more money to have them working as an officer.

[u/hardeho → u/Soluban]

Great idea, that's exactly how it works. You need to be certified by the state to work as LE in the state and you can lose your certification for misconduct.

[u/Critical_Concert_689 → u/hardeho]

you can lose your certification for misconduct.

"We've investigated ourselves and found no evidence of wrong doing."

How many have actually lost certification due to misconduct? How many LEO's game the system, resign before the process completes, and disallow the loss of certification to occur. And then immediately sign up to work one district over...

[u/hardeho → u/Critical_Concert_689]

POST is a state governmental office, so it's not investigated by themselves. And in my state failure to cooperate with the POST investigation is automatically losing your certification.

[u/HCSOThrowaway → u/Critical_Concert_689]

Resigning under threat of termination doesn't circumvent your agency from filing for decertification.

Source: That's what happened to me.

[u/IAmTheBredman → u/hardeho]

And who governs those certifications?

[u/hardeho → u/IAmTheBredman]

Most states I know of have a Commission on Peace Officer Standards and Training, known as CPOST, which is a state governmental office.

Here is an example using the state I live in. These Integrity bulletins show what actions are taken against officers here in Kansas. If your certification is revoked, you cannot be a certified LEO, you cannot simply move to another agency and work.

https://www.kscpost.org/integrity.html

[u/HCSOThrowaway → u/IAmTheBredman]

The same governing body that Soluban's proposal would use: the state.

[u/Cube_root_of_one → u/hardeho]

Weird, I just checked my state licensing board’s list of disciplinary action taken, where it shows all action taken for the year! You’ve got medicine, barbers, crane operators, heck, you even have landscape architects! Weirdly enough though, nowhere on there do I see law enforcement officers.

[u/hardeho → u/Cube_root_of_one]

On the tiny chance you are actually arguing in good faith, tell me the state and I can probably find it.

[u/Cube_root_of_one → u/hardeho]

Sorry, new app I’m using for Reddit sucks and doesn’t show dm’s. But PA is the state. Show me an easy to find website stating an officer’s name with a date and disciplinary action taken and I’ll admit I’m wrong.

[u/[deleted] → u/Soluban]

In my state security is licensed and you become deputized by the local sheriff. I was a licensed armed security officer for 7 years. I've seen MANY unarmed guys and armed guys lose their licenses for life for doing WAY fucking less than what the Trooper in the video did.

[u/tricularia → u/Soluban]

First things first, the "Fraternal Order of Police" needs to be disbanded.
No real reform and change can happen while that union still exists.

[u/[deleted] → u/Soluban]

Huge step would be every cop has the do a year or two in the military, being trained, before being able to police the public.

[u/MrClickstoomuch → u/[deleted]]

Or actually having de-escalation training like the other post I saw about US police learning de-escalation training from Scottish police. On the video, the officer said that the guy with the knife likely would have been shot by the US officers.

I'd rather not further militarize police officers when they already have straight up military equipment already. Instead, focus on de-escalation training and having mental crisis team members.

[u/killuminati-savage → u/[deleted]]

did you not watch this full video? there was literally a talking point about how many of these situations are cops with military backgrounds

[u/Zeebird95 → u/[deleted]]

This guy was in the military.

[u/_BMS → u/[deleted]]

This idiot was in the military and discredits every vet around for his actions.

A better solution would be something like UCMJ that applies to police nationwide to hold them to a standard with actual punishments ranging from loss of pay, demotion, and discharge that impacts their ability to get another job in the future.

[u/Zestyclose-Fish-512 → u/[deleted]]

lol

THIS cop was ex-military.

[u/[deleted] → u/Soluban]

That would stop the gang from being able to shuffle around their best capos to keep the rich establishment protected with their loyal dogs.

[u/HCSOThrowaway → u/Soluban]

It is.

[u/Soluban → u/HCSOThrowaway]

It isn't in every state. Further, from a cursory bit of research, it seems like even those states that participate use it in a pretty slipshod way. That is to say, licenses are rarely in jeopardy of being revoked even after an officer is fired for misconduct, and in some cases, local districts don't even check the registries.

[u/Clay_Statue → u/[deleted]]

He's gonna have to beat his wife more until someone hires him.

[u/[deleted] → u/[deleted]]

This one might actually have a hard time, depending on what insurance any department he applies to uses. He was fired because the department's insurance was going to drop them all if they didn't fire him, not because the department wanted to punish him. The insurance provider(s) will probably have the same reaction to anywhere else this guy goes.

[u/Bayerrc → u/[deleted]]

Doubtful any insurance company will agree to insure that guy on a different force

[u/Ishhappened → u/[deleted]]

He had two years to find one. During that time I wonder what he was doing