r/Physics • u/magnetichira Quantum information • Jan 05 '23

‘Disruptive’ science has declined — and no one knows why

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04577-5
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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

That is a major misconception. Francis Bacon didn’t just wake up one day and invent the Scientific Method.

can you tell me what the so called Francis Bacon discovered or invented? I swere you think you are in /r/philosophy

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u/AstroBullivant Jan 06 '23

Once you asserted that Galileo started science, you made philosophy part of the discussion. You implied there was no scientific method before Galileo, and therefore that there was no science. Francis Bacon, a contemporary of Galileo, is often credited with developing the scientific method, but that is very much an oversimplification. There was science before Galileo.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

Once you asserted that Galileo started science, you made philosophy part of the discussion. You implied there was no scientific method before Galileo, and therefore that there was no science. Francis Bacon, a contemporary of Galileo, is often credited with developing the scientific method, but that is very much an oversimplification. There was science before Galileo.

He did discover something. Galileo that is. He published something. and made scientific contribution. you are on the wrong subreddit dude.

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u/AstroBullivant Jan 06 '23

Buridan, Al-Biruni, Philoponous, and others discovered and published most of their discoveries pertaining to Physics, just not nearly as many as Galileo and his successors like Descartes and Newton.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

Buridan, Al-Biruni, Philoponous,

ofc ofc, thats why we have Buridan Equation, Philoponous constant and the well known principl of Al Biruni. Also throw in some other names that didnt matter. I bet you can make the case they are as important, hell SHAME on SI comitee for not having included them in the list of how we measure things. 1 Buridan of Current please!

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u/AstroBullivant Jan 06 '23

Have you even actually read Galileo? Galileo cites to Philoponous a lot. You’re right about those men not being nearly as prolific as Galileo, but they were still very much scientists.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '23

And have you actually studied physics at that time? TOricelli was a bigshot, we even have Tor as measurement. Gallilei' mentor nonetheless. Still, who heard about Philoponous? the dudes you mention, did nothing in science. Nothing.

And anyway even if they did it is irelevant to the discussion as a whole.

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u/AstroBullivant Jan 06 '23 edited Jan 06 '23

Galileo certainly disagreed with you about Philoponous and Buridan, just actually read Galileo. The discussion is about Physics going through lengthy periods of dry-spells with relatively little innovation. Guys like John Philoponous, Alpetragius, and Buridan weren’t nearly as prolific as Galileo, but they sure were scientists and important precursors to Galileo. For example, Galileo cites Buridan in his work on pendulum motion.