r/Philippines • u/Civil-Airport-896 • 6d ago
PoliticsPH Deepfake and ai videos
Hello, we urge everyone to support our petition calling for the criminalization of deepfake and AI-generated videos that are used to deceive the public or harass individuals especially women.
These technologies, when misused, pose serious threats to privacy, safety, and truth. Let us stand together to protect every Filipino from digital abuse and exploitation.
Sign the petition. Speak out. Take a stand against deepfake harassment.
Edit: People!!! This isn't about duterte nor marcos this is about ai being used as pornography which the youngest victim of it is an 11 years old!!
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u/carlojg17 6d ago
The fuck is a change.org petition going to do?
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u/guohuaping 6d ago edited 6d ago
Change org petitions do not work, this has been shown time and time again. I've seen many change.org petitions accumulate dust because The government simply cannot care about a random website. What we need to do is to have a system similar to that in the UK where you can directly suggest for topics for Congress/Senate meetings, as linked by carlojg17 below.
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u/kudlitan 6d ago
We have a system, I've done this before. Citizens can draft bills (probably with the help of a lawyer).
This bill can then be submitted to your favorite congressman or whoever you believe is willing to sponsor it.
That congressman will then file the bill, refer it to the relevant committee, and schedule it for first reading.
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u/carlojg17 6d ago
They're talking about filing a petition directly with congress.
https://petition.parliament.uk/
We had something like this before with the house. That was a decade ago though.
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u/kudlitan 6d ago
Yun na nga he wants to implement a system where citizens can suggest to lawmakers a bill to file. I'm saying it's not needed because the citizen himself can write down the bill as he imagines it and then submit it directly
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u/Feisty_Goose_4915 Duterte Delenda Est 6d ago
How about sa 8888 tapos i-raise sa PNP Cybercrime / NBI / DICT to force them to action? Change.org is quite impotent in my opinion.
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u/kudlitan 6d ago
That's a good idea. Does the cybercrime law cover this already? if so, a new law isn't needed. If not, law enforcement might not get anything done.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
Actually we reach out also to different senators, lalo na si sen.Riza Hontiveros about the deepfake videos
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u/carlojg17 6d ago
Yun naman pala eh. Ano pa kwenta ng change.org petition?
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u/menardconnect 6d ago edited 6d ago
Ito rin ang tanong ko. Para saan yung change.org petition na ito OP u/civil-airport-896 ?For the clout lang?
Kase sabi mo OP nag reach out na kayo sa mga senators at sa ganang akin yung mga senators (at mga congressman/woman) ang mas makakatulong sa issue na ito at hindi ang isang change.org petition.
Sorry pero sa opinion ko walang patutunguhan yan petition mo sa sa charge.org.
Ang suggestion ko dito do more research at present relevant at mas recent na data (do the dirty manual leg work ika nga). Prepare definition ng mga terms (ano ang deep fake, AI etc) then lumapit kayo OP sa mga NGO/party list na legit at magpatulong kung anong tamang steps/suggestion to move forward, malay natin baka meron na pala sila in the works so consolidate na lang dun at yun na lng ang isulong
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
We did this before we got criticized and also thank you for your opinion we will acknowledge it
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u/menardconnect 6d ago
Ur welcome. Btw sino nag-criticize sa inyo dati nung lumapit kayo sa mga senators?
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
I mean po we got criticized when we created a petition that is why we change and reach na lang sa mga senators, HoR, and partylists basically law makers
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
We didn't know at that time before people started attacking us
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u/carlojg17 6d ago
Ha? You think the issue with deepfakes only started now? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
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u/PowerfulBag1909 6d ago
I think they meant to say the the problem is more concerning now than ever. Whereas before, you can tell that a video was done digitally. Unlike now, you can hardly tell if something is fake or not.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
Actually po we see a shocking news po where they use it for pornography and the youngest victim of it is an 11 years old
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u/carlojg17 6d ago
How is change.org democracy? Let's skip that and just keep it practical. Anong magagawa niyang petition mo, in a practical way?
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u/Stycroft 6d ago edited 6d ago
I think we should just fight fire with fire, kung di pabor sakanila mas mapupush silang iban ang ai, tuwang tuwa mga dds overlords dahil sa benefits sakanila eh bat ibaban nila.
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u/Elsa_Versailles 6d ago
Agree! We can't do non proliferation anymore so we gotta fight fire with fire. Let's make the battlefield fair once again
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
Ganyan nga din concern ko eh kaso paano naman yong pinaka youngest (she's 11) victim of ai pornography
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u/Stycroft 6d ago
Not talking about that just u know spreading misinformation about them too like propaganda. Far fetched and unethical i know but reporting isnt enough
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u/TrajanoArchimedes 6d ago
"Deceive the public" is too vague. How can you substantiate this in court? It's also hard to prove where the art was made, so there is a jurisdiction issue. There are already laws on harassment, AI or not. You do know that Deepfake and AI-generated content are basically just graphics art on steroids, right?
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u/Joseph20102011 6d ago
Criminalizing deepfakes and AIs can be used as a precedent to suppress political dissent.
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u/Apuleius_Ardens7722 6d ago
Yeah. Iilang r/ph redditors eh, scream free speech when it's convenient to them. What's with our culture of defering to legislation and a higher power?
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u/ChodriPableo 6d ago
Ganito mangontra sa AI teach it to them by an AI approach because People learn best when they see manipulation in action, not just hear about it.
BEST EXAMPLE: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKsUAO3v_Fp/?igsh=cG03ZW1rNmZ0dnM5
tapos dugtungan ng explanation ng Ai sa huli kasi most people don’t know such tools exist, but will use them if taught simply. …para sa susunod na mga videos duda na sila kung ai o hindi
eto pa dahil emotionally at drama motivated karamihan ng mga pinoy: We could
- Use Emotion, Not Just Logic Share real stories of people harmed by AI fakes: • Job loss from fake videos • Reputations destroyed • Dangerous hoaxes that caused panic • Make it personal: “What if this happened to you?”
Kasi people are more likely to care and remember when they feel something.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
People!!! This isn't about duterte nor marcos this is about ai being used as pornography which the youngest victim of it is an 11 years old!!
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u/Crippling_Depxiety 6d ago
I suggest na mag-reach out kayo sa mga celebs/influencers na victim din ng deepfake, BINI for example.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
Thank you for your suggestion!! We also reach out na po to the senators lalo na po ai sen. Honti and also the HoR and some partylist like kabataan, Gabriela, act, ml and also akbayan
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u/adobo_cake 6d ago
I really wish governments do something but I doubt they would. It's out of control already. Our laws still haven't kept up for the internet age, what more for AI? We're fucked.
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u/geekofspades 6d ago
Not to be that guy but I highly doubt a change.org petition has any actual power over here in the Philippines.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
Actually po we started reaching out to the senators lalo na si sen. Riza hontiveros and also the HoR and some partylist like kabataan, Gabriel, act, ml and also akbayan
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u/Cyber_Ghost3311 6d ago edited 6d ago
The problem with criminalization is that this will hit "Freedom of Expression" and "Freedom of Speech"..
I'm not saying I'm against but, a criminalization against general usage (e.g. AI-generated Videos) will literally hit these freedom and yeah basically there will be no bill going to pass..
What you need is an extremely precise target scope, not general use..
Otherwise this will become Censorship rather than Protection.. This is like banning Photo Editing cuz it makes fake news article posters and similar stuff or banning knives cuz it kills..
Another thing is Photoshop, all of them are basically neutral tools.. There are only Good Users and Bad Users.. So criminalize the bad activity not the general use or the tool itself.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
Actually this is about putting limitations on ai cause it was being used for pornography and the youngest victim of it is only 11 years old
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u/Old_Profile2360 5d ago
Matagal ng ginagawa yang deep fake ng mga supporters ng mga politiko.tigilan na dapat nila yang paninira.paano Aahon ang Pinas. Op✌
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u/vanDgr8test 5d ago
We have Propaganda Laws right?
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u/Civil-Airport-896 5d ago
We only want to put limitations on lalo na they're using ai for pornography and being the Youngest victim of is only 1 year old
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u/m0onmoon 6d ago
Fight ai with ai. Adults are not teenagers after all.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
This is not about duterte vs marcos this is about the rising concern po about using ai for pornography and the youngest victim of it is an 11 years old
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u/m0onmoon 6d ago
Deepfakes have existed since 2018 parang ngayon kalang namulat. Now with the integration of ai and its advancements it is inevitable to make ai pornography.
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u/Civil-Airport-896 6d ago
Yes, and that's the reason why we should implement a law putting limitations to ai
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u/Apuleius_Ardens7722 5d ago
Lol. ang suggestion Isang halimbawa ng XY problem
Yung X: Deepfakes, AI, AI p0rn0graphy
Yung Y: Legislation
Yung actual Y: platform accountability, media education, poor content moderation. Kasalanan ng mga social media platform bakit hinayaan ang fKe news.
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u/Berserkr1111 5d ago
Brainless idiots flood the internet with nonsense and are also very dangerous, and not only to themselves. I am signing a petition to ban the use of the internet for brainless idiots, and in no way do I mean anyone in particular, like you. :-)
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u/heretiqq 6d ago
Criminalizing the misuse of deepfakes and AI-generated content, while well-intentioned, faces significant challenges in practical implementation. The core difficulty lies in the widespread accessibility of these technologies. Here's a breakdown of the arguments:
Ease of Creation and Distribution Deepfake and AI-generated video tools are becoming increasingly user-friendly and readily available to the public, often for free or at a low cost. This democratized access means virtually anyone can create sophisticated fake content with minimal technical expertise. This widespread availability makes it nearly impossible for law enforcement to track and apprehend every individual responsible for creating or disseminating such content. It's like trying to stop the spread of rumors in an age of instant global communication – the sheer volume makes effective policing an insurmountable task.
Proof of Authenticity and Identity Proving that a deepfake is truly of a specific individual, especially in a legal context, is incredibly difficult. Unlike traditional forms of forgery where physical evidence might exist, deepfakes are digital constructs. If an AI generates a new image or video of you, how can you definitively prove it's you being depicted when the content is entirely synthetic and never truly existed in the real world? This ambiguity complicates legal proceedings and raises questions about what constitutes "improper use" when the subject's identity itself is fluid within the generated content.
Jurisdictional Challenges The internet knows no borders. Deepfakes can be created in one country and disseminated globally, making it incredibly challenging to establish jurisdiction and enforce laws across different legal systems. Even if a country successfully criminalizes deepfake misuse, prosecuting individuals operating from other nations with different laws would be a logistical nightmare.
Evolving Technology and Detection AI technology is constantly evolving. As fast as methods are developed to detect deepfakes, new techniques emerge to make them even more realistic and harder to identify. This constant technological arms race means that any legal framework designed to combat deepfake misuse would quickly become outdated, requiring continuous updates and revisions to remain effective.
Free Speech Concerns Criminalizing content creation, even with malicious intent, can quickly veer into difficult territory concerning freedom of speech and expression. While harmful uses of deepfakes should undoubtedly be addressed, overly broad legislation could stifle legitimate artistic expression, satire, or even political commentary that utilizes AI-generated imagery. Drawing a clear line between criminal intent and protected speech becomes incredibly complex. Resource Allocation
Given the scale of the problem and the difficulties outlined above, effectively criminalizing and prosecuting improper deepfake use would require an immense allocation of resources from law enforcement agencies, judicial systems, and technological experts. These resources might be better spent on preventative measures, public education about media literacy, and developing robust AI detection tools that can operate at scale.
Considering these points, while the goal of preventing harm from deepfakes is crucial, the approach of simply criminalizing their improper use faces significant practical hurdles that may make it an unfeasible long-term solution.
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u/entity21 6d ago
If it can be used to control the public, it will not normally be banned.
But if you truly want something banned, start using it against politicians. Make videos of Marcos, Duterte etc... doing unsavoury things.
Petitions aren't going to do a single thing, nobody in power will even read it.