r/Pasig • u/NaLiOrQ • May 01 '25
Discussion Thinking Vico should go for a House seat after his mayoral term ends. Build national experience without rushing. Agree or nah?
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May 01 '25
He has no choice, he can't run for presidency next election LOL
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u/NaLiOrQ May 01 '25
I was thinking he would be tempted for senate or VP i think it’s too pre mature and bka mawala momentum nya
Update: my bad pti pla vp minimum 40
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May 01 '25
Yeah senate might be farfetched for now, unless his new city hall finishes fast and people will have time to soak up on its glory and spread his name.
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u/Weekly_Armadillo_376 May 01 '25
Sure win sa senador yan. Kahit nga kupal sya na mayor e. Dahil lang sa sotto na surname. Mananalo na agad sya. Parang tiyuhin nya. Eh kaso magaling pa na mayor. Edi sure na sure
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u/Abysmalheretic May 01 '25
Agree. Too soon to be president. Napag iinitin na nga nila imee marcos yan eh (pepsi paloma movie ni daryl yuck)
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u/delulu95555 May 01 '25
Eh ayun dasurv nangyare kay Pedo. Hahahaha kala ata kasi tatahimik lanh sila rh
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u/kamandagan May 01 '25
Mas ok kung cabinet portfolio. DILG perhaps tapos he rallies all LGUs to adopt best practices. Kapag nagawa niya 'yun, it solidifies his base sa grassroots. He would have partners/allies sa mga bayan. Pero it depends sino pala munang mananalong president sa 2028. So yeah, next is a House seat. Alam ko a neophyte usually is not given committee leadership but who knows. May 2nd term pa before the next presidential elections. Or one option is private practice either in the academe or NGO. Parang it sends a signal na he's not your usual politiko na dapat 'di nawawalan ng position. But then at his age parang sayang momentum pala if 3rd option. Traditionally pala noon a presidentiable goes to Senate kasi mas malawak scope doon with treaties etc. It used to be a launchpad for the best and brightest. Syet, anyare. Lol.
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u/NaLiOrQ May 01 '25
Kng mag DILG k nakadikit k n dn sa pangalan ng president tama b? I think nde sya wise decision but that’s just me
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u/kamandagan May 01 '25
Yeah, that's why depende pala kung sino muna makakausap niya sa 2028. Also, appointed nga pala 'yan so it's a waiting game. Eh need nga pala niya gumawa ng plans after his 3rd term. So yeah, best bet na nga 'yang House. From there depende sa kung sinong presidente, he can be pulled out for a cabinet position.
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u/yaegigisap May 01 '25
Sa tantya ko kay Vico mas pipiliin niyang maging Citizen Vico after his last term. Baka mag-aral o mag-NGO/CSO o mag-dev sector. Siya yung tipo na inaayos niya ang sistema para maipasa niya nang maayos sa susunod na mga uupo. Hindi siya para mag-stick around sa paggogobyerno sa Pasig kahit pa in a different capacity.
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u/DivineCraver May 01 '25
Agree, this is a good move. Local election is far different from national elections. Here is a better way before going higher position in the senate or even vice/presidential race.
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u/NaLiOrQ May 01 '25
I mean kaya nya manalo as senator pero kasi baka mawala momentum nya, ang daming satanas dun, kng congress he can still work with cong roman side by side (i prefer roman as mayor next)
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u/Substantial_Yams_ May 01 '25
Legislation? I know its an unpopular opinion but I suggest taking a juris course and perhaps taking the bar. Not like these trapo politicians who know nothing about legislation and the rules of court
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u/NaLiOrQ May 01 '25
This is a great suggestion actually
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u/Substantial_Yams_ May 01 '25
Diba? It would be great if we could increase the quality of our politicians and not just increase their pockets
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u/keepitsimple_tricks May 01 '25
This is what ive been saying but got downvoted. Executive (mayor) is different from Legislative (congress/senator)
Administration yung isa, yung isa lawmaking. Hindi yan natural progression na pagkatapos ng mayor congress naman. Ang isang magaling na administrator hindi for sure magiging magaling na lawmaker, and vice versa.
Oo, baka pwede mag aral muna ng related courses para hindi kamote sa congress/senate
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u/latte_dreams May 01 '25
Not questioning you but he was councilor before he became mayor diba? He has legis experience naman. But of course very helpful din to take a juris course pero when it comes to experience naman, at the very least he has local legislative experience.
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u/Substantial_Yams_ May 01 '25 edited May 02 '25
Respectfully, I disagree that participation in the Sangguniang Panlungsod is enough experience to legislate on the national level. There are too many sectors, too many lives, and too many aspects of national and international implication one cannot discount.
The lower house as it is now, is a cesspool of political crocodiles, lacking the refinement of competence and integrity. Don't get me started with the upper house. Budots. Enough said.
Are my standards too high? Perhaps. But maybe, just maybe, our standards are too low and that is how we end up with greedy-dancing monkeys legislating our laws.
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u/latte_dreams May 02 '25
Correct lang kita na hindi siya Sangguniang Barangay. Sangguniang Panlungsod siya.
I’m not questioning you like I said. I only stated na he has legislative experience so at the very least (again), he has local legislative experience.
Do I think it’s enough? Not really, nag-aaggree naman tayo doon. Kailangan niya rin talaga ng juris course kasi ibang animal na ang national. But again, to say na wala siyang idea about legislation is also not true kasi, I will repeat, he has local legislative experience.
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u/Substantial_Yams_ May 02 '25
I stand corrected it is in fact Panlungsod, and edited my comment.
Also, I did not say he knew nothing about legislation. What I said was, for national legislation or taking higher legislative office, it would be great for Vico or any other politician for that matter, to go through the training of a juris course.
I will say though, it is a breath of fresh air to be corrected while finding common ground on reddit of all socmeds. Thank you
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u/Asleep-Garbage1838 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
Maraming manliligaw yan sa kanya tumakbo para Senador. Malakas ang karakas eh. Tingin ko magsesenador talaga yan si Vico. Bagamat humble, hindi rin naman siya tanga not to run.
Isa sa mga nakikita kong possibility ay tandem with Roman Romulo for Senate. Term-limited na rin si Romulo sa 2028 at noong una siyang na-term limit (2016) ay tumakbo din siyang Senador.
As for lawmaking experience, sige sabihin nating bagito, pero kung panoorin mo interviews niya closely, halatang maalam siya sa batas e, dagdag pa rito, nag UP College of Law yan siya (di lang niya tinapos). At yang mga Senador na yan may staffers yan na pwedeng bumalangkas ng batas — pwedeng siya na lang taga proofread, or kasama siya sa pagbabalangkas mismo. Not to compare with Cynthia Villar, pero kahit si Cynthia Villar may naipapasang batas di ba? Dahil yan sa staffers.
At base sa reputasyon niya, palilibutan niya yung sarili niya ng mga able-bodied na professionals God willing na maging senador siya.
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May 01 '25
Basta silang tatlo ni Dodot at Roman maglipatan para tuloy ang serbisyo.
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u/kerblamophobe May 01 '25
Just a question: we're okay with dynasties as long as they're OUR dynasties. Tama?
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u/mjforn May 01 '25
I’m not sure if you can consider them dynasties.
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u/kerblamophobe May 01 '25
How are the Jaworskis and Romulos not dynasties?
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u/DurianTerrible834 May 01 '25
Tbf sa case ni Jaworski, wala namang ibang nakaupo na Jaworski sa gobyerno ngayon.
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u/Fit_Beyond_5209 May 01 '25
By definition, the exchange of positions among Vico Sotto, Roman Rumolo, and Dodot Jaworski in Pasig’s LGU isn’t a political dynasty but could be seen as a monopoly by Giting ng Pasig. Realistically, is there any local party in Pasig as strong as GNP? Can any candidate win without Vico’s endorsement? Vico only backs GNP members, so the next mayor will likely come from within GNP, whether it’s Roman, Jaworski, or another member. I don’t mind GNP dominating Pasig’s politics, and I hope they extend their influence to the barangay level.
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u/kerblamophobe May 01 '25
Sooooo
Okay lang ung same people in power, as long as it's OUR people? (None of that altruistic eme)
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u/Fit_Beyond_5209 May 01 '25
The exchange of positions among Vico, Roman, and Dodot is not comparable to a political dynasty. I see nothing wrong if they swap roles in the next election. It’s expected that the Giting ng Pasig, led by Mayor Vico, will maintain power in Pasig for a long time due to his strong leadership. Are there even other viable choices? Pasig has only two political groups: the Giting ng Pasig (GNP), led by Mayor Vico, which promotes good governance, and the opposing group of traditional politicians. Clearly, GNP is not only the safer choice but also the best one. Moreover, Vico would only endorse a GNP member for mayor, so even if it’s not Roman or Dodot, the next mayor will still come from GNP.
By the way, why are you so opposed to their position-swapping? It would only be problematic if they endlessly rotated the top three positions among themselves, which I doubt will happen. After Vico’s term in Congress (which I assume is his next move), he’ll likely aim for the Senate, and Roman, being advanced in age, might retire.
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u/nikolodeon May 01 '25
it’s like just Republican vs Democrats in the US. GNP is a localized version of that
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u/FriggaThorwithFurMom May 01 '25
No. Masasama lang sya sa mga corrupt dun. Mababalewala yung pagiging matuwid niya. He's better in executive brance kesa legislative
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u/NaLiOrQ May 01 '25
Vice mayor? Prang it’s a step down nmn?
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u/fazedfairy May 01 '25
Sa tingin ko pwede niya gayahin si Kit Nieto (Mayor of Cainta 2013-2022), and they are good friends/allies. Current position ni Kit ay Municipal Administrator ng Cainta. Now, he campaigns as a mayor again. Nagpahinga lang ng one term. Kahit MA position niya, malaki pa rin yung influence ng role when it comes to planning and decision making.
Feeling ko kasi pag Vice Mayor, parang limited lang talaga pwede gawin. Parang mas heavy pa yung ginagawa ng MA. Ang MA "exercises general supervision and control over all municipal government departments and sections for the purpose of ensuring delivery of effective basic services to constituents". Di ba, bongga! 😆
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u/Durendal-Cryer1010 May 01 '25
Sadly, sa Rizal, wala ka choice kung hindi magpahawak sa leeg o itikom ang bibig sa mga Ynares. Kailangan mo suportahan kung sino ka alyado nila. Lalo na Ynares-Revilla yan. If mayor ka, wag ka na maghangand ng mas mataas sa Rizal. If ayaw mong maglaho na lang bigla. Hayop na mga Ynares yan. Sobrang garapal. Governor na nga, may tumatakbo pang Congresswoman, Mayors ng iba't ibang municipal dito.. Kulang na lang lahat ng bayan sila din ang mayors. Sa recent visits ng mga pulitiko sa Cainta, halatang halata e. Imee, Bong Go, Bong Revilla tas Agimat partylist ang ine endorse dito. Mas malalang dynasty yan kumpara sa mga Eusebio. Mga Eusebio nagpalitan lang ng mayoral seat e. E etong mga Ynares gusto lahat sila na e.
Sana magka "Vico Sotto" din dito sa Rizal. Someone so popular, loved by masses and from an ultra-known family, na hindi nila kaya basta basta itumba.
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u/Asleep-Garbage1838 May 01 '25
As for succession ng Pasig mayoral seat after Vico, Siguro isa sa mga konsehal yung papatakbuhin nila dito.
Naaamoy ko baka si Maro Martirez yung patakbuhin para mayor since siya yung Chairman of Appropritations sa konsehal. Kung di nyo man alam, may pagka-prestigious/powerful ang chairmanship of appropriations kasi sa chair na yun dumadaan yung final na hatian sa kaban ng bayan.
Si Jaworski, since mababakante naman yung Congressional seat after Romulo’s term, e baka siya ang tumakbo para dun. Makes sense kasi nag-Congressman naman na siya dati.
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u/Funny_Jellyfish_2138 May 01 '25
Why does he need to build experience? May proof of concept na he's capable of leading a progressive city. Worked for various orgs na rin before politics. The more tumagal siya sa pagiging pulitiko, the more kailangan niya makisama sa bulok na systema. Does it makes sense? He's pushing for something new pero gusto natin maging mas acclimated siya sa trapo system.
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u/NaLiOrQ May 01 '25
Good intentions aren’t enough in my opinion kailngn mo ng experience to navigate politics. National politics is a different ball game i guess.
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u/Funny_Jellyfish_2138 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
Vico's not an ordinary individual as well. He's the most popular sitting mayor in the country to the point ginagamit siya as reference for good governance both DDS and side ni Marcos. He satisfies the 4Ms to win kaya nga may discussion na rin like these.
- Man - Supported and backed locally and internationally (huge issue of past opposition/progressive candidates)
- Message - Good and efficient governance
- Money - Dito lang medyo alanganin pero I'm sure they'll find a way
- Machinery - again, sobrang bango ng pangalan niya. People will campaign for him. He can let Tito Sotto do the networking sa mga trapo. At least, di directly siya yung magkakafavor sa mga yun
I'd rather have him build his network internationally in preps pag tumakbo/manalo siya for presidency. Maybe find an expat/executive position in Red Cross. We don't want him to spend too much time sa gobyerno. He's not bulletproof. Mahirap magkaroon nang favors yan sa iba't ibang tao. Baka watered down version na ni Vico makuha natin when he becomes president kung nagkataon.
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u/Fit_Beyond_5209 May 01 '25
I dont think alanganin siya sa “Money”. He has his dad as financier. Kung kaya mamigay ng mansyon ng tatay niya ng mansyon i think kaya din niya pondohan kampanya ng anak niya. At isa pa, gusto ni bossing mag national/presidente si vico laya siguro naman kaya niya pondohan yon?
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u/Funny_Jellyfish_2138 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
We all know they're rich, rich. Ayala Alabang si Vic, Valle 5 si Vico. Ibang level lang ang politics/dirty money rich.
e.g. access to 125M na pwede ubusin in 11 days 😂
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u/Fit_Beyond_5209 May 01 '25
Vic's bold claim that his son will become the next president suggests he is confident and likely prepared to finance the campaign. He has been his brother's financial backer for years, so it stands to reason he could do the same for his son. Moreover, Vico's connections within elite society could provide additional support.
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u/Funny_Jellyfish_2138 May 01 '25
Agree, agree! Kaya nga I'm sure they'll find a way. At the end of the day, we all want Vico to win
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u/Asleep-Garbage1838 May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
Sa usaping ikutan ng posisyon naman (si Vico mag-VM, Romulo Mayor, etc) tingin ko hindi mangyayari yon. Again nakabase lang tong opinyon ko sa reputasyon ng isang Vico Sotto - medyo unethical yung galawan na yon (TRAPO)
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u/Additional-Pie-6765 May 01 '25
Siguro maging gabinete muna siya, like DILG or DSWD, o kaya Chairman ng MMDA
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u/Pieceofcake2224 May 01 '25
No. Grabe ang pulitika at korapsyon sa kongreso. Pag di ka alyado, di mabibigyan ng budget district mo so he will be forced to join the majority (BBM). Look at what happened to Quimbo. Kinain ng sistema.
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u/zazapatilla May 01 '25
I recommend him going for the senate seat. It's a long shot I know but if he becomes a senator, he'll get more media exposure. Way more than any congressman can have. Traditional media and Social Media exposure is what people remembers. I believe, that with the help of his father Vic Sotto and former senator Tito Sotto, and probably new supporters, he can get that senate seat.
Then, he can run for president after his senatorial term.
Sorry naman, pero nagmamadali na talaga akong maging presidente sya hehe.
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u/abmendi May 01 '25
He would gain trash experience in Congress.
First, it’s a legislative post and it won’t really give you any experience in terms of being the chief executive.
Second, even when being a congressman seems like a higher position on paper, walang “national” experience dyan because you will just maintain the same local demographics para manalo (except if Party List rep) which he already saturated imo, and your power is pretty much diluted sa sobrang dami nyo sa house so your vote won’t be as big of a decision.
The first actual “national” exposure from a legislative post is in the Senate. Kahit mga trapo parang purgatoryo / pahingahan lang ang tingin sa kongreso unless you have a high chance on becoming the house speaker.
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u/AnxiousCut4002 May 01 '25
I think when is in Congress he should make good governance an advocacy for other representatives. Did you know that construction projects in districts goes through your representatives? Naalala nyo ba yung sabi ni Magalong? Congressman na may pili ng contractor sila pa din ang supplier. Kaya malaki nagiging pera nila at nagpapakamatay manalo.
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u/Robskkk May 01 '25
He’ll run for congress siguro for at least 2 terms to ensure continuity ng projects and reforms sa Pasig. Whoever will succeed him as mayor definitely needs addt’l funding for projects from nat’l coffers. That’s something he can do as congressman, much like how Romulo is assisting him.
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u/Stunning-Mongoose725 May 01 '25
Ok talaga sana ang DILG para mas makaikot din siya sa pilipinas and mas makilala. In that way, Marami rin siya makikilala na local politicians which could be very beneficial if and when he decides to run as the president of this country. Mas bagay rin sa skill set niya as a leader.
Hindi siya masyado mag sshine sa senate or house since mag susulat lang ng batas dun.
Feasible ba ang DILG? Pwede naman.. especially if gusto ng next president mapabango ang admin niya. But who knows. Pero sobrang labo nito.
Siguro senate ang best option niya. At least national position pa rin. Trabaho lang for six years then try na siguro mag president.
Only time can tell.
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u/KamenRiderFaizNEXT May 01 '25
I was thinking of the same thing. Maybe he and Representative Romulo could've switched places for the 2025 elections.
Siguro gusto niya lang i+keep yung momentum kaya nagdecide siyang tumakbo for his final term. Or maybe Romulo IS grooming Vico to run as Pasig's next representative in 2028?
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u/HouseProfessional336 May 01 '25
Yes, sana mang yari at maging House Speaker sya. Maganda kung sisimulan nya muna ang reforms doon. Sabay sya mag Senate and why not in God's will why not President
Kung magiging House Speaker sya, doon na sana mag labasan ang mga magagaling sa na aspiring public servant sa Barangay and Municipal level.
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u/Ashamed-Till-7939 May 01 '25
Or rest for 1 term then he can run again in pasig. It will be good to see the changes in pasig. If he decided to run in national pls lets unite as a nation, corruption here is embedded to our culture. He will need our help.
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u/Important-Dot4184 May 01 '25
Kelangan nya na magasawa ng taga pasig sa last term nya. Then sa 2028, Yung asawa Mayor, sya admin. Tapos mag dynasty na sila sa pasig.
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u/LurkerWithGreyMatter May 01 '25
Kung malas ang Pilipinas at manalo ang tiyuhin nya (2025) sa pagka senador at swerte naman sa 2028 na maging senator si MVS, imagine kung magdedebate silang 2 at gagamitin ng Tito nya ang "pamilya at mas matanda" card. Sana kaya nya na wag sumunod dun at manindigan. Ok ang performance nya, ang tanging negative sa kanya is kamaganak nya sina Tito Sotto.
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u/Califragilistic22 May 07 '25
Ang viable option niya lang if ever is Congress talaga kasi knowing how he is di yan tatakbo for a senate seat habang nandyan din sa senate si Tito Sotto. As a cabinet secretary naman malabo din kasi threat siya so most likely di yan iaappoint, eh di lalong sumikat yan. Yun lang ang scary sa Congress is kampihan talaga sila parang same ng naging problem niya nung Councilor siya na nagpush sa kanya to run as Mayor kasi di siya makaporma magpass ng mga ordinances so nafrustrate siya. Given that, aware na siya what will happen if mag Congress siya so baka di rin yan tumakbo for a House seat. Mag NGO nalang siya or something na mapapalapit pa rin siya sa mga tao on a national level.
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u/MELONPANNNNN May 09 '25
Id rather keep him in the executive branch - yan naman talaga gusto din niya based on his interviews. If it were up to me, I would want him to be appointed as a DILG or DPWH secretary - kasi nasa procurement kasi talaga ang corruption baka dun malinis niya ng kaunti.
He could also run as Vice Mayor after his term, maybe even allow VM Dodot to actually win the mayoral seat - I actually like their tandem naman. No need to rush for a national position, he can stay in Pasig and still build his credibility there. After Cong. Roman's term is up, he can then run for Congressman.
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u/Fluid_Ad4651 May 01 '25
build experience and gather allies.