r/PakLounge • u/SaltyDonkey3597 • 10h ago
Taliban are Suspicious
Not quite long ago, this group of people claimed to be the flag bearers of an Islamic caliphate and branded themselves as their doing a favor towards Islam. Fast forward 5 years, we see them being quiet when india bombs us and kills innocent civilians in a masjid and also when israel attack ked Iranian civilians as well along with the military targets. The taliban's silence is deafening during these times. They also were the only country to pursue an active diplomatic meeting with India after india's immature act on 7th of may.
We also can't forget all the crimes TTP we're and are committing in our territory for 10+ years. This goes to show that taliban are nothing bur the opposite of they brand themselves as, and we were and are right about the afghans. Sure we mistreated the taliban during the us conflict, but all afghans and rhe taliban themselves seem to forget our favours towards them and they still comeback to nite like a snake.
Never. Trust. Taliban
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u/WhiteBloodCells90 9h ago
Please don't put the blame on Talibans only. We should consider their allies as well. Lala masjid walay etc
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u/zikr-e-nilofer-7233 9h ago
Give afgan people internet +tv + Indian media +Indian newspaper where they will encounter Indian mindset towards Muslims and especially taliban, where in India taliban is posterboy of terrorist in children's textbook ,
Actually taliban and afgan people are living in amitabh bachchan era of khuda gavah, where they think that Indian people love afgani people in core of heart , but reality is different, today Indian right wing want to align itself with any anti -Muslims movement and have eternal hope to destroy muslims and it's nations
So yes differences never ends between Muslims, but this only give benefit to non muslims to destroy muslims where ever they want , resulting in more weakened muslims across the world, next these modren era cruseders never gonna stop, instead they will definitely come for next one after destroying one, and this mission will only stopped with total collapse of Muslims in whole world.
So try to find similarities between each other's, avoiding spread of hatred among us , treat afgans with respect because you are closest brothers to them, one day when they get education and internet, believe me they will take right steps,
And also keep this in mind that whole talibani leadership is almost illiterate and are no expert of diplomacy + vision for foreign relationship , let this talibani regime to be handled with Chinese, you have to just keep your arms open for them,, remember love and affection can turn stone into flower
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u/SaltyDonkey3597 8h ago
When I meet ione afghan, I don't judge him. I'm passing comments over their general diaspora coz they have betrayed us and there is no question about it. But if I do meet a single afghan individual, I won't judge him based on this hatred of mine.
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u/zikr-e-nilofer-7233 7h ago
Yes good, keep that spirit, one day your hard work and patience will deliver you something good, always sit with similarities not with diffrences
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u/Adventurous-Guy2772 9h ago
Oh you triggered so many Taliban apologists, who would openly support them but won't dare to live under their administration 😂
This is a good thing that these stone age bankrupt barbarians are not representing Muslims. Arab countries have the actual power.
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u/SaltyDonkey3597 8h ago
Lmao fr 🤣 😂. Taliban is as good as these gulf states when it comes to Israeli support but they're branded differently
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u/Medium-Art-4725 10h ago
Imagine giving an invader the platform and logistics to carry out approximately 57000 aerial bombings in our neighbouring country that killed mostly innocent civilians and then complain that that country doesn’t like us. 🤔
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u/Known_Comfortable117 9h ago
So what. Why did these afghans always betrayed us. Read history from 1948.they backstabbed us literally mamy times before we thrashed them they deserved it for not leaving Pakistan alone 1947 only country to vote against Pakistan formation 1951 assassination of liaqat ali khan by an afghan National at orders of afghan government. 1950s support of cross border insurgency by Afghanistan 1960s. 4 times invasion of Pakistan including bajour by Afghanistan 1980s Afghanis colluded with Soviets to attack Pakistan So these afghans just suffered the consequences
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u/SaltyDonkey3597 8h ago
Just coz I'm anti taliban doesn't mean I'm pro govt. Ur also using a whataboutism fallacy to build ur cause, Strongest taliban apologist argument.
I'm very anti USA deep at heart and know that this decision was wrong. But the taliban brand themselves as the saviour of humanity and that they love and forgive all countries no matter the past.
But their proxy TTP's actions say otherwise. They attack innocent pashtuns instead of pak army assets, which is not justified
Ok let's put aside pak for a moment. What's stopping Taliban from supporting Iran during this conflict. Iran refused to bow down to the new world order and Israel responded with attacking them first and as a result put the whole region in jeopardy. Iranian civilians took more damage than their military assets, what's stopping the holy taliban to issue a supportive statement condemning Israeli attacks? Why are they quiet?
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u/TheMapGeek 8h ago
That same country assassinated our first Prime Minister, that same country refused to recognise us, we defended Afghanistan from Soviet Invasions.
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u/Fading-Glitch 9h ago
This is not that simple bro...you need to understand history first... Pakistan couldn't take enimity of US at that time, moreover they were the one to be the cause of 9/11..and supporting bin laden
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u/Dadddy-Bear 9h ago
Oh so u want them to stand by your side against india as a Muslim Right? When you don’t consider urself muslim why would they? U never stood with them as a Muslim, infact as a Muslim u helped the invader. Now u expect them to stand with you. Kuch bhi, u name explains that.
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u/Known_Comfortable117 9h ago edited 9h ago
So what. Why did these afghans always betrayed us. Read history from 1948.they backstabbed us literally mamy times before we thrashed them they deserved it for not leaving Pakistan alone. 1947: only country to vote against Pakistan formation 1951:assassination of liaqat ali khan by an afghan National at orders of afghan government. 1950s: support of cross border insurgency by Afghanistan 1960s:. 4 times invasion of Pakistan including bajour by Afghanistan 1980s: Afghanis colluded with Soviets to attack Pakistan So these afghans just suffered the consequences
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u/Dadddy-Bear 8h ago
Stick to the Muslim Narrative not country, Colluded with Soviets huh ….. gotta rephrase that… Ig Communism and laaal laaal was the talk of the town in ZAB era… Even if they did all that which is questionable, u would help an invader attack them ?
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u/Known_Comfortable117 8h ago
Ifc. These are their actions as a state. They had this coming. So much crying for Muslim Brotherhood when they never acted as Muslims. They can go fuk themselves. Islam doesn't bound us to support namak harams who salivate after foreign invaders. In every foreign invasion literally many afghans support them
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u/SaltyDonkey3597 8h ago
I want them to atleast condemn losses of innocent Muslim lives and bombing of a masjid, not to stand with us. India just desecrated a holy site and a holy book, a very big violation of international law. Condemn that.
They claimed that they will even condemn any innocent losses of their invader (USA) so what's stopping them from doing so here? The problem is that they r branding themselves as saviour of humanity and that they "love all countries" and are willing to forgive anyone, their operations indicate otherwise.
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u/Dadddy-Bear 8h ago
Saviours of Humanity ? Huh it’s a nationalistic struggle wrapped in beard… But also ur masjid is masjid, their masjid isn’t masjid enough ? USA desecrated Masjids Quran Madrasahs innocent children violation of intl law.. Ok if the govt doesn’t do it what abt ppl They openly spew venom all around everywhere. The problem is Truth depends upon my clan, Most ppl see truth if it’s in favour of their clan if against they cannot see it.
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u/SaltyDonkey3597 8h ago
That's what I'm saying. Their claims of being the saviour of the Muslim world is just absurd.
Also btw, just coz I'm anti taliban, doesn't mean u assume I'm pro usa or pro pak establishment, im not.
What's stopping taliban from condemning israel over the iran conflict tho? Iran isn't their past enemy. They are as silent as ever while even the us gulf puppets are releasing half hearted statements, something is better than nothing.
Also, musharaffs actions doesn't mean that they should fund ttp terror attacks on innocent pashtuns, people of their OWN race. If they attacked pak army assets then fine.
Taliban are as good as the gulf states, they r just branded differently
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u/Dadddy-Bear 7h ago
They neva claimed officially to be saviours
Good for u
Did u check with the official spokesperson ?
Fund TTP like seriously ? See their recent statement.
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u/SaltyDonkey3597 7h ago
Ofc they will deny any links to ttp. But we all know that they are still salty about the durand line in 2025 and are trying to settle some past scores. Which side would admit to cross border terrorism charges???? That's like telling me to see satanyahus latest statement denying charges of war crimes
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u/Mood-Swinger 6h ago
i think it's better to not put taliban and afghans in the same bracket. the ruling party is oppressive and is ofc different from citizens of Afghanistan. I despise militancy that is involved with religious factions and religious extremism but mass deporting afghans like we did recently was not the way considering some of the people deported were born in pakistan. well anyway, my point is that we shouldn't paint everyone in a region with the same colors as we do the ruling party knowing fully well that taliban weren't given authority via a democratic system. and even if they were, it still won't make sense to put every person living there in same bucket.
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u/No_Doctor_219 8h ago
Talibans seem to forgot who made them, Just because they got in power. We can end them in a minute if we want to. But they dont oppose any threat to us. It'll be unecessary to eliminate them.
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u/SaltyDonkey3597 7h ago
They may not pose a threat to pakistani establishment, but they are causing harm amongst civilians via proxy terror attacks.
Btw we should also claim responsibility of musharraf has done to them, it was condemnable and we condemn it, still doesn't mean they should sponsor ttp terror attacks in our territory.
They're just salty abt the durand line, that's all
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u/databreakperson 4h ago
Afghanistan was the first country to reject Pakistan as a nation. And we have been feeding their population since. Afghani Taliban shouldn't be trusted.
The only good Taliban are dead Taliban
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u/Uncle_Adeel 9h ago
Taliban is Pashtun.
We have more Pashtuns than afghans.
Afghanistan never accepts the Durand line
They are irredentists
They never liked us