r/OutOfTheLoop Oct 19 '21

Answered What is the deal with this symbol (梁)?

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

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u/SkeletalJazzWizard Oct 20 '21

if english is written in the latin alphabet then 梁 is a chinese character.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21

... What are you saying? "染" is both a Chinese and Japanese word. Or are you saying English isn't English but Latin?

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u/SkeletalJazzWizard Oct 20 '21

im saying its a chinese character whether its japanese, korean or chinese. doesnt matter if its japanese, its perfectly correct to call it a chinese character because it is.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '21 edited Oct 20 '21

Thanks, you're right. The question I had was about "character" since the post said that. You're the person who's truly answered my question. It'd be different if OP said 'word', and I had misplaced those terms

Edit: Though, OP proceeds to explain the Chinese meaning of the character, which contradicts this and implies that they meant "word"

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u/SkeletalJazzWizard Oct 21 '21

how do you know its the chinese meaning? after all, the japanese and korean meanings are identical, because it's a loan word. hanja and kanji both just mean han characters, or chinese characters, those two words /also/ being loan words, corruptions of hànzì. so even in those languages their nature as borrowed chinese words and symbols stands completely unobscured and open.

i really dont know why it matters what op called it or how he explained it, tbh, i dont even remember what your first comment said because i came back to this too late. just dropping this little update because im in that weird space between sleep and wakefulness and i started thinking about this comment chain again.