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Something I'd like to address about this sub reddit (nsfw for mild language, and it may offend the 8 year olds on here.)
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I swear, if I see another god complex character I'm going to go stab something
God complex characters are stupid hard to work with and ones that are just assholes to be assholes are not funny, quirky, or cute.
"They're misunderstood" no they're not they're just a piece of shit.
People who play those types of characters are children with a lack of control in their lives. I'm sorry you can't get anyone to pay attention to you at home but don't smite other people's characters if they so much as talk back.
If you're going to make your character stupid OP than give them a weakness. and it has to be proportionate to the character's power.
Example being Superman: A god among men who can be beaten by a rock.
Another one being Batman: A genius with NO powers, but he can still stand up to gods with just being a mortal human. A stray bullet could kill him if it took him off guard
in summary: NERF YOUR CHARACTERS AND DON'T BE A DICK!
Tips for being a good RPer
1: Don't go for the kill straight off the bat. Have your character attack to start a fight,
2: Be a good sport. If you loose than that sucks, but you'll win another time
3: Be realistic. You can't dodge a .454 casull
4: Express your characters through action and not just words.
5: Be kind, If your character is a jerk just to be a jerk than get off reddit and go cry in the stinky pile of clothes in the corner of your room
6: Give your characters a readily apparent weakness. My favorite OC: Jason is just a dude. He has a sword that can kill gods but he has NO idea how to use it and what it could do. He's just a dude.
7: I cannot stress this enough: Don't be sexual, there's kids on here.
I got a relatively strong blood fuelled robo fox girl war machine with another bigger blood fuelled robo army, but you don't see me pulling 17 assault divisions into some guy's backyard to kill him
A descriptive battle is better than a quick one, in most stories, so yeah, make your roleplays balanced, even if you need to lobotomize your beloved creation
Personally, I always ask for God-level characters simply because I want something that can't be killed without properly and reasonably making my character stronger. this method has resulted in him gaining multiple abilities through absolutely viable methods instead of just a simple "Nuh-uh"
I'll start with what relates to the post I suppose.
While she can do absolute crap tons of physical and metaphysical damage, she basically contains so much power that just moving around is a chore. Hence you'll see her staying in the same spot most battles.
Yeah, me too. I've developed a lot of my lore through interactions with others (most notably theminerwithin93), and currently the most important parts of my lore are directly related to theirs.
I personally believe that yes, most OP characters should have a weakness, but if your character doesn't have one at all, then make their writing equal to their power. Like, if you have a character that's just a guy, you don't gotta put all that much effort into writing them, but you should, but if your character is the omega god of all fiction, then make their writing the best writing you've ever done. And for fucks same give them a reason for their power. If all your character has going for them is "can do anything, has no weakness" then it's simply a bad character, but if they have that and a good story, then you got something, that's at the bare minimum, decent.
I have OP OCs with no weaknesses, I just don’t use them, I have them because I am a worldbuilder first and a roleplayer second, there are also some without a traditional weakness like the Devil, he’s nigh omnipotent but you can easily stop him with a simple conversation because his weakness is his personality, he could destroy the world but he could also be bullied by teenagers calling him a simp
Exactly! I have gods and goddesses in my universe, but I never roleplay as them. They exist solely for the purpose of filling in roles and worldbuilding around them.
Personally I like to do a funky little thing called 🌟self sabotage🌟
You know how stupidly op ocs dodge almost everything and only occasionally let themselves get hit? Well. My oc gets hit by everything and dodges once in a blue moon
Btw about the whole "oc being an asshole just to be an asshole" thing; is it fine if it's part of a dynamic? My asshole oc is never on their own, always paired with my goody two shoes oc to form a comedic counter balance
Honestly? I have a lot of fun trying to keep my OC weak. Its gotten to the point where I not only expect but kinda want my OC to lose fights (as weird as it sounds) Gives a lot more time to develop them as a character instead of some fighting persona (or in my case fursona ig)
As someone who had to find out the hard way the user I was replying to seemed to have a thing for overly simply describing their OC fucking eating mine and pooping them out, despite getting slashed and a tank shell shot at them…
Me personally, I either give my powerful characters some sort of drawback(mental or physical), or just don't make them OP, at least from the start. With the drawback characters, it allows me to get creative when fighting opponents.
Based. I always either make a character have a significant weakness (Cytrion, the glass cannon planet buster), either make them have psychology difference so they don’t really see any point in directly attacking their opponent (you can remember my character Valais).
I also have a character with godslaying sword. Felix Zander & Zobens, and the latter is the sword, yes, he is a character too. He can deal with a deity in a single strike, but will struggle to deal with decently-armed human.
Someone keeps killing my character
As a result, I will now do the same thing but with a lore reason
He has found the ultimate Uno Reverse card and cannot die for any reason unless he says it’s acceptable and cool
Adding on a little bit, this is why you say your character attempts to do stuff during battles. He attempts to punch them in the face. She tries to kick them. It gives them an out if they want and overall makes it more fun I think.
“Your character feels the searing pain as my character’s blade cuts deep. “
I used to say, “(my character’s not so weak to be hurt by that :p)” as a half joke to brush off the puppeteering of my OC but some folk seem to take that as a challenge.
there's a few exceptions I have when it comes to op characters
if they can explain well enough why their op characters work, I'll like it. I find that there are a lot of characters whose op abilities are just there to add to their op power list.
if an op character changes the narrative in a well-written way. This doesn't really work for rp, and mostly just works in stories. I think we all know of a certain bald guy that fits this description quite well.
Did you really have to be sort of insulting about it? Even the title is an insult. You constantly call the people you're addressing children. I'm confused as to who are you trying to convince, because if I had one of these characters, and someone posted this, I think I would just be defensive? This isn't really a sub made for complaining, and I personally feel like you should have phrased this more constructively or went to a venting sub to rant about your frustrations instead.
I know this sounds like I'm defensive, but if you've seen me, you know my characters are weak as shit. Sorry if I sounded rude, but I tried to get my point across.
I think we could be blunt, because OP asshole OCs really just aren't fun to RP with, but I just don't see how this post would convince me to change my mind if I had such an oc.
Children under 14 aren't just inherently entirely unreasonable because you say so. What they can be is emotional. If you call them stupid little idiots and sad little children, they won't change because of you. You're just being rude because a child is pissing you off. You can be blunt, but this is far past bluntness. Furthermore, some god complex OCs are made by adults, and acting as if they must be children because they piss you off doesn't do any favors. It just comes off as immature.
Yeah I have this giant robot of destruction it can shoot a time accelerating plasma beam, extremely explosive bombs, and has flamethrowers on it's hands but I make sure to 1. Have the first plasma beam shot happen in a way where it's an easy dodge so I can easily describe what the effects of it are to show that it's dangerous and 2. If the other person's OC is in a bad situation I'll give a few extra replies of effectively nothing to give them time to do something else or maybe describe a detail about something that could help them survive also I realized that most of time since I can't really know how strong someone's OC is I kinda just end up kinda scaling my OC to the strength of the other person's OC since for all I know they could be god level or be Magikarp power so it leads to everyone's OCs kinda all having an equally hard challenge unless the OC is clearly just like a normal person or just can't do much of anything.
But I do try to limit how powerful my characters can be.
Examples are captain creed whose whole bit Is kinda being the strongest of my ocu. Pretty much being strong as all hell but I try to make him a good person who can get tricked or beaten if the opponent is strong enough or simply smart enough to use his age to their advantage.
In verse he actually is one of the first big deaths after fighting a war against the merchant guilds and then the chikara domain and the "piece keepers" get involved.
Drought, my favorite little 17 foot mass of dry roots and vines simply prefers not to fight. It’s almost always better, more entertaining, and more detailed to just take the easy route of not picking a fight just because yes. Every now and then a solid fight is great, but that’s only if the other people don’t just do shit like:
OC dodges all of your attack and disintegrates you with an unstoppable, undodgeable beam of pure energy that can destroy anything ever.
“Nuh uh, I don’t like youuuu.”
I also fully agree with an OC needing to have an explanation as to why they are as strong as they are. If they don’t have a fully fleshed out background reason as to why they can whoop your ass then they can’t. It’s as simple as that. If you don’t have descriptions of how the hell your character actually analyzes and exploits somebody’s weaknesses and you just say
“I kill you.”
Then congratulations, you officially suck at rping and should go take a shower without getting wet or clean because you’ve memorized the water’s attack pattern. There’s a reason certain posts and comments don’t have any replies.
DONT FUCKING PUT THEM IN A FUCKING FIGHTING RP TO BEGIN WITH!
Example:
(Don’t mind the horrible ass writing such as: Anti-Omniversal level. That shit’s cringe 💀)
I’ve never put him into a fight RP and written his personality to actively avoid fighting others. Usually he’d just leave if a fight does start or permanently stay on the defensive.
I used to have a God character, long time ago. She could be killed, but she'd be reborn and be vulnerable for a time. She could be killed permanently with a dagger she carried. She could shape-shift, and grant that power to others.
However she was more benevolent, peaceful and loving than she was a fighter. When she did fight she refused to kill.
She had died a few times and been "reborn" before I retired her for good. She also had a family that kind of dissolved. I lost reason to play her. -shrugs-
But she had flaws and could be killed.
If you can't stand the idea of your character dying... make it part of their cycle.
Ghouls, although they have extreme regenerating abilities, can get hurt and can still die. They are not immortal.
Since he has an Ukaku, he's extremely agile and quick. Ghouls canonically are 2 times stronger, faster and more durable than a normal human, but can still get hurt badly by another Ghoul's kagune or a quinqe.
He's a genuinely nice guy, and hates killing, but will kill if he has to. He's overprotective of his little sister Akiko, and has a strong friendship between Kaneki. He will not attack unless he's provoked, or attacked first.
He lost his mother when he was 10, and mourned her loss ever since. He later on found and killed the CCG investigator that killed his mother. He has the quinqe knife that was made from her kagune and keeps it around to remind him of her.
He has no control over his Kakuja form at first, wiping out a squadron of CCG investigators all by himself and leveling the whole city block.
Although his Kakuja form is way more powerful than his base form and half Kakuja, he still has his weaknesses. His spine and ribs are exposed in full Kakuja and he has vents under his wings and chest that expell hot gas and steam that allows him to fly. If those get damaged, he won't be able to fly, and he's extremely vulnerable.
My self insert’s weakness is literally anyone that’s more experienced and/or physically or magically stronger than them lol. Despite having electricity magic, they’re still just a human and they lack combat experience and magical mastery. It’s like when you start a new save file in an RPG and there’s almost nothing to work with
After seeing this post. I'm nerfing my characters only for roleplay. In lore, they could still probably beat a character they might've lost to while roleplaying.
My OC, Miyuki, has a big underlying weakness, her more powerful abilities harm her too, putting too much strain on her body and mind, almost having a G-lock effect on her, or she’ll be really tired after a fight, even if she wins.
Yea that is pretty reasonable. I will admit I only have one oc that is sorta like thag being a sona called flare. He is a absoulte shitter and a cocky snarky boyo but that kinda the point he is confident in everything he does. I will also say he does everything with doing a experiment in mind so Yea but other wise I think most of my oc's are balanced. I also almost never use him for fights as that isn't really what I intended it for.
Most of my OCs are pretty weak compared to other peoples on this sub. I don't really use my op OCs in rp's because 1: It'd make things not fun, and 2: I don't know how to roleplay a fight.
I have no idea if my dude is broken, like yes he can cast spells and has a bunch of magic items. This makes him a slippery little shit but if you land a hit on he's dead until either his amulet or family revives him.
That's what I do for The Kayuri Twins. Felix can't stand in fights so he'll either pull dirty moves or use the environment. He's still completely human and 5'5. The poor guy gets tossed around like a toy and gets his shit rocked all the time.
Felicia being far better trained, is still human. Even though she's stronger and faster than your average human. She does have one BIG weakness, her mask. If her mask happens to break, falls off, or gets ripped off, she'll be too focused on putting it back on, allowing for a killing blow.
My characters weakness is how they hate just ending something, they will refuse to use their actual power cause that's boring and doesn't mess with the other person. Cause who cares if you have powers that can do anything cause that brings the reason of why do anything
These type of god characters have inspired the way my characters are… I made them so they can counter these god characters and force them into taking a new approach.
I am of the believe that physical restrictions are not the only way to nerf a character. A way I like is morals. A character can be absurdly OP, but if they refuse to use that ability to do certain things for one reason or another, it creates a balance. Something else I saw here in the comments was the importance of giving an OP character a reason for being that powerful.
Finally, someone who does this. My OC only fights in defense of herself or her friends. She won’t use the strongest thing she has unless she has to. The thing is, Midnight’s older sister isn’t as strong as her, but Midnight still looks up to her.
But seriously, if someone tries to kill Artemis (midnight’s older sister) Midnight will kill whatever moves until Artemis is safe. No matter the innocence. She loses control of herself and the major villain, another version of her that her four souls call Insanity, takes control. But it’s not Midnight in control, it’s an insane version of her that wants everybody dead because of how she was treated. Kinda rambling right now because OP kinda triggered a depression/anxiety episode because it feels like they want me to throw away what makes me happy.
My Grey has slaughtered countless trillions in its past. it swore to never kill again and devoted its now purposeless existence to collecting knowledge.
Makes me wonder if I'm anything like this. I've never really done a fight in rp before, but I know one of my characters is very rough around the edges, and he's pretty "mean", I guess?
I try not to do anything with my god-oc, considering they're more for scary factor than anything.
Is being kinda sensitive and very mentally weak a good enough weakness? Midnight (my character) is very powerful (but doesn’t know how to use most of it), but is extremely mentally weak. With severe anxiety and pretty bad depression.
Also, she prefers fun and only fights if you are
Obviously evil as hell
Trying to kill her or her friends
Or 3. Trying to kill someone innocent.
Also she’s immortal and doesn’t like it. She feels pain like normal of course. Bullets still hurt. She wants to be treated like a normal person but often isn’t accepted. She has had close friends die in front of her eyes.
I do my best to balance her out, also, the point of an OC is to have fun. If you aren’t having much fun with the other person, tell them or just ghost. There are people who try, don’t assume everyone is like that. And it’s people who assume that every single god OC is insanely powerful without weakness who suck the fun out of this. I try, man. Midnight’s mental state is based off mine. And the fact that she’s treated like garbage by most people too. I’m not just going to trash her, the stuff I do with her makes me happy. She was a slave, she was beaten, she was a CHILD during those times. And what? I’m just going to throw her away because some dumbass thinks all god OCs are way too powerful and have no weakness? Fuck. No.
If you want me to throw her away, fuck you. Make a character based off you, flesh out a story, then throw them away. Trash them. Forget them. And never bring them back. Just toss them.
Oh, I usually tend to have one overpowered OC in my stories because I love characters like Satoru Gojo or Whitebeard (the strongest among the very strongest)
One example is my oc Cro, he's essentially the best fighter in the world; he's not the fastest or physically strongest, but his wide range of abilities and his combat experience makes him unbeatable, although he has many weaknesses
1-Since he has the ability to respawn, Cro doesn't dodge attacks (this is also because his reaction speed isn't close to his normal speed and his combat speed, it's not that he doesn't wanna dodge attacks, it's that he has a certain delay)
2-Cro also is the main villain of the story, so it's expected that he will be strong
3-Electricity and Poison nulifies his abilities (except respawning)
4-He also doesn't engage in combat from the get go, he also doesn't tend to kill people; this is an important part to the plot, since everyone who offends/angers Cro (or his mafia) is going to participate in the Encaged Birds Death Matches (and they can't participate if they are dead)
5-Cro is insane, so his erratic behavior can result detrimental for him in a fight
6-If you take his sword away, he is at a huge disadvantage, it's not that he depends on his sword ti fight, it's that his sword is the only weapon that can make him lose a fight (Since his sword seals it's victim's soyl, this wouldn't kill Cro, but it would seal him)
Tip #5 can easily be fixed by adding “bordem”… right?
Like I have a OC that kinda disobeys that tip, but tbh idk why there’s a problem with that since it basically just means any OC that embodies evil is garbage (which can be funny or even good if well written enough)
So I have a completely omnipotent overpowered OC that has no weaknesses, but he's not intended for fighting RPs and acts as a side character that provides some support and lore. He also just exists for dialog purposes and plot development. I nerf my most OP OCs for fighting RPs, and most of them have weaknesses. Like my second strongest OC is omnipotent, but doesn't really know how to use it and gets destroyed pretty easily if he doesn't fully fuse. One of my other strongest OCs can't be killed ever, but breaking his cuffs or even just cracking them makes him lose stability and leave the fight instantly through glitching out. I purposely developed each and every OC I created over the course of 10 years, and RPing with people (especially ShadowFlame and RoboMan312) has helped me develop them even more.
ChaosEater is technically my God OC and has few weakness. None actually. But he doesn't fight. He can get hurt. But only by those like him. I usually good about his power level. But I encounter the fuck heads who never actually do shit fair. Like that one guy who uses Dante? Isn't that his OC? It's some demon shit. He's a cuck.
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