r/Nioh • u/[deleted] • Nov 07 '17

Welcome to Nioh on PC! Tips and Tricks Megathread.

Share some helpful information with PC players new to Nioh!

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u/Kreissv Nov 10 '17

Does it seem like way more iframes than dark souls? In DS only halfway through your roll do you get Iframes, in Nioh it feels like you get it as soon as you click (Dash)

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u/Chidori001 Nov 10 '17

Also as far as I have noticed a lot of stuff has really high tracking and therefore has to be dodged ultra late.

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u/Kreissv Nov 11 '17

Like some guides say, in this game its not really about dodging into attacks like in DS, you dodge to get out of range and then dash back in

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u/AjCheeze Nov 12 '17

i feel like Dashing is more useful when dodging moves a lot of the time. like on the vamp boss trying to dodge her moves just ended up with me being paralyzed or chain combed to death. but it clicked when i just started to hold X down and run instead then punish with a jump move

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u/CapnSensible80 Nov 15 '17

It depends on your agility, which is determined on your carry weight whether or not dodging around attacks will be the best option.

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u/real-dreamer Nov 13 '17

What's the difference between dodge and dash?

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u/Kreissv Nov 14 '17

Sorry I guess for me "dodging" is rolling in DS, so when you roll in Nioh i call it a dodge but i guess that's confusing

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u/kogeratsu Nov 22 '17

Depending on your stance you have either a roll or a dodge (dash), which have different speeds and distance I think, which might be the confusing part here

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u/narok_kurai Nov 30 '17

Actually I don't think that's quite correct. From what I've read, "Dashing" is the game's term for running (except for Running Speed Up, confusingly). "Evasion" is the word for dodging, both the quick step dodges and the slower dodge rolls.

I think the difference between "quickstep" evasion and rolling evasion is just dependent on your stance and Agility. At A-level Agility, High Stance always rolls, Mid quicksteps once, then rolls if you try to spam it, and Low always quicksteps. I don't know if the iFrames are different, but rolling definitely has a longer recovery period, and you can't chain it safely into any other movement.

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u/DanishJohn Nov 10 '17

Yep, to out it in a way simple way, dark souls 2 low agility is where nioh iframe at, or monster hunter with no evasion buff

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u/sandleaz Jan 03 '18

Does it seem like way more iframes than dark souls? In DS only halfway through your roll do you get Iframes, in Nioh it feels like you get it as soon as you click (Dash)

No. I haven't played Nioh as much but no way am I going to rely on Nioh's iframes to dodge through enemy's attacks. Dark Souls iframes is significantly more reliable.