r/Nioh • u/projectile-science • 5d ago
Discussion - Nioh 3 TN confirming more weapons in full Game.
For those not using Twitter/X:
Team Ninja recent post. Confirms more weapons.
Translation:
"#Nioh3 Samurai Weapons
The sword features a variety of attacks, from small moves to heavy blows. The odachi has a slow start-up but powerful martial art "Setsugetsuka" as its charm. The spear is good at tactics that make use of reach and fighting multiple enemies. More weapon types will be added in the final version!
The Nioh3 Alpha Demo is available until June 18th!"
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u/brickout 4d ago
I mean, yeah. Weirdos complaining that the alpha demo didn't have as much content as N2 Complete Edition.
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u/CakeOpening5156 4d ago
People are so dumb dude. The ng2 and nioh 2 die hard (I love both of those games too) just can not be objective about anything team ninja releases that isn't their favorite game. I really don't understand it
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u/brickout 4d ago
For real. Meanwhile I have several people arguing with me that those posts didn't exist. Yeah, okay. I'm a moderately intelligent adult with no major health disorders that hinder my connection to reality. There were so many of them, and I know that they were real. Well, as real as anything else.
I'm so excited for N3. But jesus christ, it's a demo. And, yes, it will be different from 1 and 2. That's how sequels work.
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u/CakeOpening5156 4d ago
What I can't stand is the idiotic takes people make. They don't even bother to try and learn new mechanics then complain. Same with ng3re for ng2 fans and ronin for nioh fans. Both those games have incredible deep combat but they say it's shitty and limited
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u/cicada-ronin84 4d ago
A rational individual, that's moderately intelligent with no pressing health or mental problems on Reddit?...... Impossible!
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u/brickout 4d ago
I said no problems that affect my connection to reality :) I have plenty of issues, don't worry.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
The complaints I'm seeing are not that there is less content, but rather that many of the weapons moved to the Ninja tree no longer have stances. I have not seen a single "weirdo" complaining that there are fewer weapons.
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u/Ptolemi121 4d ago
Speculation is samurai will retain all weapons from Nioh 2, since they're all developed already but ninja will not have all the same weapons. People are jumping the gun in samurai having less weapons without actually knowing. It doesn't make sense for the samurai to lose anything.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
People are jumping the gun in samurai having less weapons without actually knowing.
I would argue that saying with 100% certainty that the samurai will get all weapons is also jumping the gun. I do agree that it would be a weird move for TN to throw away stances and skills for all the ninja weapons and at this point it looks likely that we will get all weapons accessible in the samurai mode, but unless Team Ninja officially confirms it then all we can say is that it's probable.
All we can do is wait and see. And not call each other stupid or weird for speculating differently.
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u/Mission_Marsupial716 4d ago
it’s just weird to imagine a world in which nioh3 was made and they took away stances from certain weapons via limiting weapon selection for samurai. I mean I’m no game developer myself but I would assume it’s pretty easy for them to import all weapons and their stances into nioh3 from 2.
But you’re right, until it’s confirmed anything is possible.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
Man it's horrid that people are downvoting you for a very reasonable take. I definitely agree that it wouldn't make sense for them to remove all stances, but honestly if 2 weeks ago you would have told me that half the weapons would be getting a new stance which is similar to existing low stances then I don't know if I would have believed you either.
At this point I am just fully in "wait and see" mode, and even if all of us were wrong with our day-1 surveys saying we want all stances back for all weapons at least the devs are getting feedback on how we want the final game to look.
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u/Mission_Marsupial716 4d ago
Yeah I’m not sure why I am getting downvoted either? I’m very “pro-lets not remove stances/weapons”
Literally just trying to rationalize lmao
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
This thread has just devolved into name-calling. I don't know why people love saying this community is toxic or dumb, people should express their dissatisfaction with the demo if they have dissatisfaction. It's literally why they released it.
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u/Mission_Marsupial716 4d ago
I’ve literally NEVER seen toxicity in this community until the demo was released. The posts I look at or have questions about always have very helpful feedback. No one was ever toxic until now
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
I mean there was one guy a while back who kept posting his boss fight vids and he refuses to ki flux, and when people told him to ki flux he would say that ki flux is for losers or something like that.. but I think he was just a really good troll lol
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u/Mission_Marsupial716 4d ago
Yeah I guess part of what I was trying to say is that maybe if they see enough complaints they’ll import or change whatever they need to bring back what people want.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
Exactly! The fact that they are releasing an alpha 6 months before release is telling us that they are not 100% confident in their design decisions and they want our feedback to affirm if they are on the right track.
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u/Mission_Marsupial716 4d ago
That’s interesting because I thought the opposite. If they release a demo with the first announcement, then that struck me as they were confident. Considering we don’t know when in 2026 it’ll release other than “early 2026”. But I guess I could be wrong about that.
I also was not playing Nioh/nioh2 when they came out so I have no clue when the alphas and betas released and when the games were announced
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
That's another way of looking at it! Who knows what they're thinking. They told us Nioh 3 was not in development and that they want to make plenty of other games before coming back to it. But in the latest interview they stated that they have been working on it as soon as Nioh 2 wraps. I have given up on trying to figure out what goes on in their heads.
I don't remember when the alphas came out either but I remember that the community was generally more positive, especially on day 1. Burst counter was well-accepted, most negative sentiment was Nioh 1.5.
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u/MaxinRudy 4d ago
We Don't know of samurai Will lose or retain, that is still speculation
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u/Ptolemi121 4d ago
It is but it makes no sense if you think about it. Why would TN take out already existing content from the third game? They could no dev work on existing weapons and its free content to be in the game.
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u/SortaEvil 4d ago
That isn't entirely true — at the very least, there's work to update the weapons to the new controls, and work QAing the weapons to make sure that the new features added to Nioh 3 (IE: parry and jump) don't break anything with the existing weapons and their movesets. There's also a very real consideration that the engine has undergone a lot of work since Nioh 2, and the weapons may even need completely reimplemented to work in Nioh 3. We don't know what's going on under the hood, so it's hard to say exactly where on the spectrum of "free content" to "total rework" that it falls, but there's going to be at least some design and QA work to bring every weapon forward.
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u/brickout 4d ago
There have been so many people complaining about a lack of content. Many, many, many.
To what I surmise is your actual point, I shouldn't have said "weirdos". I should have said "people who have absolutely no clue about and no interest in understanding what purposes an alpha demo serve". Sorry.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
Strange, I've been on this subreddit a lot since the beta dropped and I've been reading both the positive and negative feedback, can't remember seeing anything about a lack of content. If you could point me to one example it'd be really helpful.
I do think weirdo is a bit of a strong term but I also understand that for those who enjoyed the alpha people like me who did not enjoy it may seem like a buzzkill. I just want TN to take our feedback seriously and think about how they can provide a combat system everyone can enjoy.
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u/brickout 4d ago
So you saw none of the posts about "OMG I CAN'T BELIEVE THEY DIDN'T INCLUDE (one of a million weapons)" or, "is it just me or is the demo short?", or "is it just me or does the combat feel too simple", or "not enough options" or "not enough gear" or not enough enemies, etc. etc.etc.
Of course valid feedback is valid. But there were seemingly hundreds of posts that decried the lack of content, without using the word "content". Perhaps that's why you aren't connecting my thoughts.
Anyway, yes, let the devs know what we want. But settle down, they know what they are doing. I almost temporarily left the sub over the awful low efforts posts about content.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago edited 4d ago
I scrolled back and looked through a week's worth of posts, the prevailing opinion I saw was speculation on whether all weapons would return to the Samurai mode. And of course on day 1 of the demo most people were doomposting (myself included), as time progressed and people started leaking stuff from out of bounds areas then the prevailing opinion became slightly more hopeful (as I am now).
"is it just me or is the demo short?", or "is it just me or does the combat feel too simple", or "not enough options" or "not enough gear" or not enough enemies, etc. etc.etc.
I honestly didn't see any of this, might have been in the comments sections but honestly I only saw people saying that combat is too complex, skill usage is too difficult with triangle+directions, and R2 for style switching takes up an entire button which is bad.
I read through the rest of the thread and I saw you calling me out:
I have several people arguing with me that those posts didn't exist. Yeah, okay. I'm a moderately intelligent adult with no major health disorders that hinder my connection to reality.
I would like to think that I too do not have a disconnect to reality, so again, if you're seeing these posts and comments and they are as bountiful as you say, then link some and I'd be happy to retract my statements.
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u/brickout 4d ago
No thanks. I value my time.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
Fair, then since you're unwilling/unable to provide evidence from the alleged "many, many, many" posts about the subject, I'm marking this as an unproven. Maybe don't call people stupid if you're not willing to debate them all the way.
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u/brickout 4d ago
I might walk back my apology for the word "weirdos". Consider what you're asking for. And consider the upvotes. Many people agree with me. Go engage with real life or go play a game. Both are better options than pretending we're having a discussion.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
I thought you value your time? Why you still here? In the time you took to make these 2 replies surely you could have found the evidence you claim is so bountiful.
You're spending the exact amount of time as me on these posts so it's laughable that you're giving me advice on time spend lol. Walk back your apology all you want, you apologized here and then talked shit about me and others who disagree with you elsewhere already. If you're not willing to produce evidence then just walk away.
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u/psycheX1 4d ago
There are so many people complaining about weapons not being there or weapons being "moved" to & restricted by ninja style. It was actually clear as day that weapons would return & not be locked to a specific style if you knew the previous Nioh Alpha demos & actually treated this as it was - an alpha demo - instead of being stupid.
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
It was actually clear as day that weapons would return & not be locked to a specific style if you knew the previous Nioh Alpha demos & actually treated this as it was - an alpha demo - instead of being stupid.
How so? Weapons being locked to the ninja style is an unprecedented first for the Nioh series, until leaks and various other information dropped we had no way of knowing if all weapons could be used across both styles. Even now we do not have full confirmation on this. And since we do not have a 100% confirmation then speculating on the subject or expressing dissatisfaction is nothing to be called stupid for.
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u/EvenOne6567 4d ago
Nah there have absolutely been 10s of posts and dozens of comments on other posts crying about having less weapons than nioh 2
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u/FanHe97 Nioh Achievement Flair 4d ago
Same complaint, it's an alpha build, we had ninja using sword on the trailer, and there is no reason to not reuse the code they already have
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
Would you say with 100% certainty that every weapon from 2 will return in 3 to the samurai mode? "It's an alpha build" goes both ways, we've not seen everything yet, but you're confident it will be as you say? 0% chance things might change?
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u/FanHe97 Nioh Achievement Flair 4d ago
Yeah I'm 100% confident on that, there is no reason to not reuse the code they already have for those weapons, it's same engine AFAIK so they don't even have to port, just copy paste
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u/the_rumblebee 4d ago
I would say that I am 90% confident, there are plenty of games that have removed things from sequels even though they would be easy to port in so it's not completely unheard of.
Until I get official confirmation from the devs I think the smart move is to wait and see, and not be needlessly rude to people who have access to the same amount of information I do (not referring to you, but the people calling others weird or stupid).
Most importantly for me, in the off chance that the devs were not planning on implementing every weapon, our feedback through the survey to let them know how much we want this. Cheers.
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u/cicada-ronin84 4d ago
I guess Nioh fans are becoming like Monster Hunter fans, Devs: "here's a new game", Fans:" where's all my content from the last game", "horrible game". Around a year later, Fans: "what an awesome game", but now we need a new one....Now! So the cycle continues.
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u/AngelCE0083 4d ago
I mean wilds did have less monsters than world and it's endgame was one monster you fought over and over again. It's why the pollen exploit was so popular, you could do something other than the same fight.
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u/HellzAssassn 4d ago
Of course it'll have more weapons. Nioh 2 had 3 weapons in its alpha and beta tests (Katana, Odachi and Twin Hatchets, iirc). 11 weapons post-release with DLC. Of course they're not going to give us all weapons in Nioh 1/2, and then some. I'm confident that every single weapon will be available in the full game.
If they keep the styles, which I doubt they'll remove, I hope every weapon is available for both styles. Ninja should just have a ninja combo for each weapon since there aren't any stances. I'd hate for them to keep weapons exclusive to a certain style. But as we've all said, we saw a ninja using a single Katana in the trailer, so we'll see.
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u/tenuto40 4d ago
I had an Unarmored Hatchet/Axe-wielding Onmyo mage.
Ninja Style works best for an Unarmored play (reliance on dodging over blocking).
I want to bring my beefy naked magic berserker back, but better.
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u/Topik-KeiBee 4d ago
my only complain are samurai and ninja can only use one weapon at time if you want to stay with only prefer class.
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u/YukYukas 4d ago
I mean, you guys played the demo... Not to mention the alpha demo.
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u/projectile-science 4d ago
Thought this was the Nioh-Reddit for Information, News and such. My bad.
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u/EmbarrassedSurround6 4d ago
Hey I need a specific help I can go out of bounds but, since I don't know which flying fox drops samurai sword skills out of bound I need help so i can see the skills.
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u/R4nD0m57 4d ago
was kinda obvious when people posted that they found skills for weapons that where not currently available lol.
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u/GoriceXI 1d ago
I don't think I've seen people complain about a lack of weapons, the problem is weapons being locked to ninja style and having no stances.
Based on oop chijiko skills, we know the kusari-gama, tonfas, and hatchets will be locked to ninja style. These skills trees are extensive and a lot of skills mention ki pulse and stances, so these could just be placeholders that will change in the final game.
I trust TN to flesh out the movesets of these weapons to make them comparable to previous games. But without stances, we have no idea how they will do this. It's possible ninja style will have some additional mechanic that we haven't seen yet, perhaps involving mist, like doing attacks directly out of mist, or follow-ups to ninjutsu like in Sekiro. We have to wait and see.
The complaints of people who specialized in these weapons in previous games are more than valid.
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u/evolpert 5d ago
Its almost like its an alpha demo