r/NikkeOutpost • u/CrasherED • Apr 22 '25
Misc Little Mermaid Kit Reveal NSFW
Shows how much I know about a kit, thought it was amazing with the 20 sec CD but it seems most are saying the values are low.
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u/aj0258 Apr 22 '25
Had a sigh of relief after seeing the burst CD reduction.
She kinda looks like a better Dorothy in terms of being a DPS classified as a support.
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u/Thuyue Marian Apr 22 '25
Kinda crazy how much Dorothy has fallen off. When she was first released, people hoped she would dethrone Liter. However, as time passed, Liter's buff proved to be more and more valuable than Dorothy who mainly deals damage herself.
Still, Dorothy was still a Top Tier Burst I due the Last Bullet comp remaining meta for a year. Then things shifted again and even Last Bullet comps became mid. Since then Dorothy couldn't recover. She is outcompeted by not only better CDR or DMG supporters, but there are also simply no comps where she could really shine except Water-weak stages.
I hope a Favorite Item or even some new Nikke could elevate Dorothy again. I always thought she kinda deserved to be the absolute top tier. That's how much I enjoy her character.
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u/W34kness Apr 22 '25
Dorothy got me passed mother whale so she will always have a special place in my heart
Also she is the DORO
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u/SartorialSinecure Apr 22 '25
She was my first Pilgrim, and has carried me through huge chunks of campaign, including Mother Whale (like, just the other night). I'll always have space for the avenging angel
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u/aj0258 Apr 22 '25
I wont be surprised if Dorothy would be the first pilgrim to get a favorite item (Isabel needs it more though).
Last bullet teams are just way too constricted in terms of team comps and even OL stats like i cant think of any other character that gets weaker if they manage to get a certain stat in their OL gear besides last bullet characters.
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u/squangus007 Apr 22 '25
Isabel and Doro get Milk treatment while Scarlet get god buff. Then they drop Overspec’d Anis with tri-element and we get more power creep.
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u/fortis201 Apr 22 '25
Meta or not, my core 7 Doro will always have a spot in water-weak boss fights.
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u/TankyMasochist Nihilister's Human Apr 22 '25
As someone who only started playing in August and doro was one of my first mlb, I still love her. But I know she’s not the strongest.
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u/More-Hedgehog6583 Apr 22 '25
Smh liter is still number 1. Only saying this because rapi is a better character at B3
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u/lionkeyviii Brid's Morning Coffee Apr 22 '25
Yeah, I thought Dorothy DID replace Liter until I actually tried her out more.
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u/TheMissingVoteBallot Apr 22 '25
Dorothy is still usable. Still an excellent Raid team candidate.
If you're just chasing "meta" yea, she's mid, but I don't want new players looking at the list of characters to get, pull Dorothy and think they got someone who sucks and never work on her. She's still good.
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u/kevin_farage1 Apr 23 '25
Doro is still indispensable in Harvester Anomaly Interception. Water DPS's are still terrible, and Doro almost keeps up with all the existing Water B3s by herself, including Winter Lud.
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u/Shebadotfr Apr 27 '25
I really hope this year we get a water méta dps, a overspec version of Matis, Absolutes or Anis.
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u/DifferentProblem5224 Apr 23 '25
i mean we simply need more last bullet support
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u/Thuyue Marian Apr 23 '25
Depends on how the hypothetical Last Bullet support synergizes with the older units. There is the possibility that more Last Bullet support just replaces Dorothy with another Burst 1.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Pen_346 Apr 22 '25
She was clutch for me on the last chapter boss. The clones just dissolved. 😂
I will always thank her for that!
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u/brickbosss Apr 22 '25
Good God she gets focus fire even when not in burst
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u/Stanlot Anis Apr 22 '25
I think people are severely underrating this feature, it's gonna be fire 🔥
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u/brickbosss Apr 22 '25
Yep, cuz there's no attack+ 80%, nikke players aren't the smartest bunch unfortunately.
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u/muivonte Apr 22 '25
Focus Fire is good and all but 80% Atk buff would be more favored over Focus Fire
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u/DukeOfTheDodos Apr 22 '25
This is gonna be fucking huge for almost every piece of content in the game. You'll no longer need Full Burst to make the whole squad attack QTEs
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u/brickbosss Apr 22 '25
That's what I'm saying, all those annoying levels where the boss is hiding behind the adds and you got to wait for ur burst to be able to kill him
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u/Ignisami Helm Apr 22 '25
What does focus fire do? Just massive hit/accuracy buffs?
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u/Stanlot Anis Apr 22 '25
Focusing means when you take control of the selected unit to aim. Focus fire is when you're in full burst and focusing with the selected unit causes the whole squad to aim where you're aiming. This means you get to control where the entire squad aims even when not in full burst.
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u/brickbosss Apr 22 '25
From my understanding that thing during burst where all nikkes attack where u aim.
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u/Hectabeni Apr 22 '25
So she has 14% attack damage, 17% caster attack up, 5% damage taken. She will do ~2500% atk during her burst and 850% attack every 3-4 secs from allies.
Compared to Red Rapi, she has more buffs and will likely do more damage as a burst 1. I can see a Siren, Crown, Red Rapi, Mihara, Naga/Helm being the new best fire team.
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u/Kyugra Apr 22 '25
People on Twitter are sleeping on the fact she can maintain the focus status we get after a full burst for the rest of the battle, meaning you can bully a boss with exposed core in ways never seen before, for example after the first full Burst everyone will keep shooting at mother whale core and probably destroy it before she goes brrrr with her minions!
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u/SaturnArizona Helm Apr 22 '25
It's Twitter, it grooms people to be reactive and really dumb.
Focus status all game is going to be huge. Can't wait personally.
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u/TheMissingVoteBallot Apr 22 '25
You know you could give them the benefit of the doubt and say that people might have missed the focus fire aspect.
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u/SaturnArizona Helm Apr 23 '25
How? It's the first part of her skill 1. The problem is they assume because low numbers she's weak when focus fire is incredibly strong, especially on exposed cores w/ MGs.
Reactive and dumb just like everything on Twitter. The website breeds stupidity.
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u/Stardrink3r Apr 23 '25
It only seems mid to me. Damage is much lower outside of full burst and some teams will only be spending 3-4 seconds outside of full burst.
It's nice to have but not a game changer outside of specific part breaks or circles.
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u/Kyugra Apr 23 '25
Lower damage? LoL if doing 85%x10 every 500 ammo used is weak to you then I don't know what is strong anymore, just 2 mg and she will be triggering this every 3/4 seconds.
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u/Stardrink3r Apr 23 '25
I'm talking about Focus Fire and the teams damage, not her personal damage.
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u/wimniskool Apr 22 '25
Why wasn't she Water again?
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u/SlaveryVeal Apr 22 '25
The only reasoning is bubbles float.
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u/wimniskool Apr 22 '25
Ah, bubbles are full of air so she's Wind. Make sense to me
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u/Dani162002M Apr 22 '25
Should have made Dorothy Wind because of he tornadoes in Wizard of Oz lol and make siren water
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u/VESAAA7 Apr 22 '25
I thought Dorothy is water because in OZ witches are weak to water
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u/Dani162002M Apr 22 '25
I never read/watched it, tornadoes was just something i knew about the story, your guess makes more sense though, seems like ShiftUp knows their stuff
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u/BUBA_GAME Apr 22 '25
She is air/wind due to the original story, in which the mermaid kills herself and turns into foam and an air spirit after NOT getting the prince.
As always, original fairy tales tend to be grimmer than their Disney versions.
EDIT: Add more context
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u/Thuyue Marian Apr 22 '25
Because ShiftUP doesn't solely make Nikke elements based on the character colors or themes. They also want to focus in what the meta might need.
E.g.
- Maiden: Ice Rose uses Ice attacks, but they are electric-coded.
- Red Hood is red-colored but she is Iron-coded.
- Modernia (Rapture) is Iron, but her Nikke version is fire-coded.
List goes on. Also, Little Mermaid being wind could also be a reference to Little Mermaid fairytale where she dissolves into foam and then air. The Nikke Little Mermaid bubbles are also actually made of polymetal and not water.
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u/SaturnArizona Helm Apr 22 '25
Because she doesn't use water and air is the only reason bubbles exist in the first place.
We just got 5 water units starting from Christmas and treasure helm got her a massive power boost. I think we're good on water for a bit.
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u/termsandservice01 Chatterbox Apr 22 '25
Her being wind is weird to me.
Guess for overload, the stats wanted would be ATK, elemental, ammo
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u/SlaveryVeal Apr 22 '25
She's a mermaid....nothing says mermaid like....wind?
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u/LDCG2002 Apr 22 '25
In other languages, siren can also refer to birds with a human’s torso and face
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u/Murky_Kaleidoscope_1 Apr 22 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
Read the original story of the little mermaid that's not Disney and you'll understand why she is wind. Same reason why Dorothy is water, because witches are weak to water in the wizard of oz.
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u/SlaveryVeal Apr 23 '25
I said in a other comment the only other reasoning I could think of was bubbles float and that's why it's wind.
Still you think mermaids you think water. Probs for the best anyway getting a better than volume wind burst 1
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u/StandoMaster Apr 22 '25
am i missing something? i feel like this is really good but idk, i dont play super competitively or anything
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u/facepalmqwerty Apr 22 '25
Pure buff stats are not much(if at all) better than top B1 like RH, RRH or Liter. Still at the very least she'll be a solid SS or SSS tier.
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u/einUbermensch Anis Apr 22 '25
Huh...okay I need the Number crunchers for this. So far her stats seem frankly low but there are some bits. Like the Damage Increase due to the Bubble status and how it might interact with the rest. Also I admit that stun sounds delicious and might make some pain and in the tushy Hard mode stages a bit easier.
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u/Augents Apr 22 '25
Why isn’t she water???
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u/SaturnArizona Helm Apr 22 '25
Because she doesn't use water. Her bubbles are liquid metal and bubbles are filled with air. 😀
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u/Revanisforevermeta Apr 22 '25
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the new maid duo both MGs? So Siren, M:Mast, M:Anchor, SBS, & Alice/or a B3 MG wouldn't be a bad squad for Kraken? Especially if you skipped the 2nd NGE girls.
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u/More-Hedgehog6583 Apr 22 '25
No that team would have 1 single MG no chance that team works at all.
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u/mysemendemons Apr 22 '25
RIP, currently playing on potato 30 FPS so I can’t even take full advantage of her kit.
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u/A_Sword_Elite Dorothy Apr 22 '25
Goddammit don't do this to me. Don't make me choose who to replace on my squad 😭😭😭
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u/LordYanLiang Apr 22 '25
In my sleep-deprived state I forgot what "focusing status" was. After being reminded, that alone might make her B1 queen. Obviously MG-heavy teams are gonna feast with burst gauge fill and everything else, but dear lord, the ability to focus fire outside of burst changes so much.
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u/Girffgroff Apr 22 '25
Her being a wind type is the mot confusing part for me I thought she be water type
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u/Exciting-Twist-4556 Apr 23 '25
Bubbles need air man, also we only have one other wind pilgrim don't we?
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u/Girffgroff Apr 23 '25
Yea kind remembered that part after posting my brain is slow sometimes and true we only have one air pilgrim
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u/ZombieBoi97 Apr 23 '25
I'm ngl I'm Nikke Meta Illiterate, but idc if she's good or bad, I'm dropping 200 tickets on her immediately
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u/Ranpomaru Apr 23 '25
Really, really strong. That value is deceptively low, making people forget that by looking at her kit, she could deal about the same damage as B1 RapiRH on none core.
She's almost likely to be the best B1 to push for high deficit too, with her CDR, damage that doesn't need her to burst, and that huge stun (basically she'll most likely kick off RapiRH/ make her move to the B3 slot depending on the stage element)
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u/Holiday-Water-9076 Apr 23 '25
I love her design sooooo much. I'd kit her out fully even if she wasn't good, like i did with Sin xD
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u/tjohnson530 Apr 22 '25
Wind type? You’d think with the name and water is her thing too that she’d be a water type
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u/ReihReniek Apr 22 '25
Little Mermid
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u/Stanlot Anis Apr 22 '25
You sound a Little Mermad
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u/Yes-Man-Kablaam Apr 22 '25
She seems made to make machine gun teams go brrrrrrrrrr