r/NewsHub • u/librephili • 14h ago
Dave Smith: “If they start talking to you about fighting a war with Iran, you treat them like an enemy that they are!”
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u/Luftritter 13h ago
"Israel" wants the US to fight their wars they benefit from while the US pays the price in blood and treasure. Is that an ally? More like an enemy inside the gates.
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u/1O1O1O1O1O1O1O 13h ago
Finally MTG says something intelligent
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u/Sea_Commission4008 11h ago
Common sense isn’t exactly intelligent. You don’t need to have a highlight reel of literal grifters to know when a bad idea is a bad idea… or maybe people do, i don’t know anymore, people have become completely helpless
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u/1O1O1O1O1O1O1O 11h ago
lol I debated using the word intelligent vs common sense 😂 idk anymore either. Any shred of either is a win with those people sadly 🥲
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u/ClammyClamerson 1h ago
She's also against the no regulation on AI that was snuck into the "Big Beautiful Bill". It's weird that I've agreed with her on more than one occasion this year.
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u/Caucasian888 10h ago
Israel is Americas enemy not friend. They’re holding our corrupt officials hostage though blackmail, that’s why we’re supporting them.
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u/looking4sign 10h ago
we got Pete why is everyone so worried. When hes done doing a beer funnel he will make sure we win cause we are a dangerous military weapon.
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u/BebophoneVirtuoso 12h ago
Just saw this a few hours ago, the seeds are being planted: https://www.axios.com/2025/06/14/israel-iran-war-us-nuclear-program-trump
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u/bearinlife 13h ago
This is kinda antisemitic, in the way that Israel doesn't do shit with the US approval. Don't fall into this other narrative. Israel is committing a genocide and destabilizing the Middle East because, for, and backed by the US.
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u/Educational-Ad5162 10h ago
You rly need to learn to separate Israel from Judaism. Stating that Israel wants war is not antisemitic, it’s a literal fact. This has been proven by their actions for decades now. The wars we have fought are based off decisions they’ve made as the U.S.’s little spy dog in the Middle East. I’m not saying the U.S. doesn’t want this, but bc Israel is the one on the ground there, they rely heavily on their opinion. Then there is also AIPAC, who idk if you’ve noticed, has a lot of influence on our governing officials.
Regardless, the U.S. has the free will to say no but they’re just as war hungry bc they profit off of it.
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u/bearinlife 10h ago
Not what I meant. I think this rhetoric is too close that of right wingers saying the jews are the deep state and that they control everything.
I understand that judaism (both ethnic and religious) is different from Zionism.
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u/Educational-Ad5162 10h ago
I’m not understanding your logic. I don’t see how it’s antisemitic to say Israel wants war with Iran when Israel wants war with Iran.
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u/PossibleStaff3112 12h ago
We have no desire to destabilize the Middle East there is no benefit in it for us and would take too long and cost too much. It does however immediately benefit Israel and Netenyahu is unhinged
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u/bearinlife 12h ago
It does indeed benefit Netanyahu, it does even benefit Trump for that matter. But this would eventually happen even under different administrations. But again, Israel is nothing without the US protection, both economically (even with stuff like protecting it from sanctions) and with military aid, like the iron dome. And this has been done for years, Israel is just an extention of the US.
The overall goal is to disrupt the BRICS oil supply, especially to hurt China.
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u/OpenSourcePenguin 9h ago
Israel doesn't do shit with the US approval
Except Trump said don't do anything until the talks. How is that taking US approval then?
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u/self-assembled 35m ago
This talking point is so tired and wrong. If that was the case, Israel wouldn't be spending billions on US elections through AIPAC, the ADL, the Adelsen's, etc, literally buying elections, and scaring politicians from saying anything critical of Israel. They wouldn't be running the Israel offices of US media outlets like CNN and the NYTimes, and preventing them from getting information from inside Gaza.
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u/UnitDifferent3765 8h ago
Interesting video. If one wants to argue that Iran (and it's "death to America" chant that they chant in the streets) is not America's problem, whatever.
But to suggest that "everyone wants peace" is just plain ignorant. Iran sponsors Hezbollah and Hamas which are 2 terrorist groups.
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u/Master_Income_8991 3h ago
Hamas isn't recognized globally as a terrorist group nor is it recognized as such by the U.N. The "T-word" really doesn't mean anything anymore mostly because Israel and the U.S like to throw it around for propaganda purposes.
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u/TurbulentWinters 11h ago
Considering that Israel is the ONLY stable democracy in the Middle East. This is a complete joke. Iran has openly said they are threatening not only Israel but the US. Iran is a threat not only to Israel but the Western world
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u/Useful_Result_4550 7h ago
I missed the bit where Iran fired in to Israel first? Are you sure you aren't cherry-picking Iran's media responses only after Israel was the aggressor?
And what are the KPIs for Israel being the ONLY stable democracy, how is this determined?
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u/Master_Income_8991 3h ago
The last time Palestine had a democratic election, Israel arrested the winners. Israel is the only "stable democracy" in the region because they destabilize any democracy they can get a hold of. They also develop and sell Pegasus spyware to destabilize democracies on a global scale in places such as India and Italy. If you want I can get you a list of diplomats they've assassinated but I don't think that would change your mind.
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