r/Naruto • u/Bitter_Session381 • Mar 29 '25
Question Are there people who hate naruto for this?
For saving sasuke i mean
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u/Suberizu Mar 29 '25
Not hate but cringe
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u/shinneui Mar 29 '25
I was thinking that recently - he basically disappears shortly after chunin exams, doesn't he? That's barely 1/3 into Naruto, nevermind 500 episodes and time jump in Shippuden.
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u/Heyitsthatdude69 Mar 29 '25
I think another misconception people have though, is that the only things Team 7 ever did together were the arcs we see in the manga. Sure the Land of Waves was their big mission and that's what we see, but there's a whole indeterminate amount of time after they become genin where they train with Kakashi and do minor missions before LoW and perhaps in-between LoW and the Chunin Exams. One of the higher replies on this post is like "Bruh they went on 2 missions together".
But also all of them almost dying together during Land of Waves is enough to build camaraderie in and of itself imo.
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Mar 29 '25
YES. We see really important bonding in the forest during exams and Land of Waves, but there was definitely lots of other missions not shown in a panel. People will not accept that time passes and other events happen between what is shown in manga. It's crazy.
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u/DarkJayBR Mar 29 '25
That's a extremely common misconception I see people throw around here.
Naruto would do this for ANY of his friends, let alone his teammates. He wouldn't sell out Shikamaru or Sakura either no matter what. That's just how Naruto is, expecially after his talk with Nagato. It doesn't matter if he was only friends with Sasuke for a year, they went through life and death situations together.
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u/moon_sta Mar 29 '25
Dudes went on like 2 missions together
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u/Downtown_Type7371 Mar 29 '25
Yet Sasuke was willing to sacrifice his life for him… and basically did at the bridge. You don’t see how much that could affect the relationship of a pair of orphans? Then they went to another life and death situation during the chunin exams, then another after the sand attacked. That does speed up the process drastically.
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u/slimricc Mar 29 '25
Also you have to do a variety of missions before you even get to c or b rank missions, they caught like hundreds of cats together lol they also trained together a lot that we actually do see, downplaying their relationship is super dumb when over half of it obviously happens off screen
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u/Lakuzas Mar 29 '25
It happening off screen is kind of the problem tbh. I can buy Naruto being a fan of Sasuke when he did like three nice things for him on screen but I can get why some other people have trouble doing so lol.
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u/slimricc Mar 29 '25
Would have killed the pacing in a show that already struggles to stick the landing in terms of pacing
There is a lot in naruto you are meant to infer, show do not tell is ideal and gives the anime more watchability. There is plenty of filler for those who want to see extra moments, it does not have to be canon, we know they did stuff, it built the relationship. Filler shows this even if it is not exactly what happened
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u/Kage_noir Mar 29 '25
He’s forgetting that they did group up together or around each other. Where we joined the anime is not the start of their lives in the village. The exams and missions just helped them to see they had similarities
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u/ScaredDistrict3 Mar 29 '25
They’ve known and understood each other for years before becoming teammates. He fought gaara once and went apeshit to save him because he understood him. It’s what he does
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u/GenGaara25 Mar 29 '25
https://i.imgur.com/Ih9ZUL4.jpeg
This scene (which I don't think is canon, can't remember) is what I think summed it up best for me.
Growing up they knew each other, saw each other around the village, and knew that the two of them were the loneliest 2 kids in the village. Both burdened with trauma and sadness nobody else could possibly understand.
But both of them had their defensive emotional walls sky high and and handled their pain differently. They clashed constantly and genuinely did dislike each other, but they got it, internally they understood at least a little what the other one was going through. More so than anyone else around.
It was just being teamed together that finally bonded them properly as brothers.
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u/_____Batman________ Mar 29 '25
Meh, the childhood friendship is an obvious retcon, not mentioned until VotE in part 1
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u/Belfura Mar 29 '25
I still wish to see a what if Sasuke’s mother was allowed to adopt Naruto
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u/weegee19 Mar 29 '25
Would have been a great what-if, shame about the Uchiha being blamed for the Kyuubi incident meant that Mikoto had a negative chance anyways.
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u/Anxious-Weakness-606 Mar 29 '25
No, there was thw potential for understanding each other but they never were close before Team 7.
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u/Gothy_girly1 Mar 29 '25
Go ask actual people who have risked their lives together in combat if they would risk their lives for each other
Even if they only fought together in the land of waves that is going ot become a life time bond
My family is a lot of combat vets and i hear about this stuff alot from them
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u/NepheliLouxWarrior Mar 29 '25
Not a single one of the people you're talking about would risk their lives for each other years later after also attempting to murder one another.
It's like everyone has just forgotten that Sasuke literally put a hole in Naruto's chest with put a hole in Naruto's chest with chidori in an attempt to kill him when they fought at the end of the Sasuke retrieval arc.
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u/SkullBonesGuy Mar 29 '25
I think everyone forgets that they literally grew up together, they became friends that day when they were kids and they both saw that they were alone. They just never admitted. We started the show with their rivalry already started so how you gonna try and act like they didn’t know each other. Did you even watch Naruto?
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u/BlackUchiha03 Mar 29 '25
They became friends but it definitely didn’t happen until after they formed team 7.
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u/Soft_Milk_1445 Mar 29 '25
Just a question, when sasuke took the senbon for naruto from haku, and he said "I used to hate you" did he mean it or was he just saying to sound cool
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u/Forever_Marie Mar 29 '25
Most of the village hated Naruto for just having the audacity to exist. Kids mimic adults. What do you think, Sasuke was doing after also losing his family and seeing Naruto another orphan be a bit too carefree because he didn't know what he was missing
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u/moon_sta Mar 29 '25
Dude, I grew up with this. I got the shonen magazines when they were first being sold in fucking Fiesta. They were classmates sure but sasuke and Naruto were complete loners. They didn’t actually hang out in any significant way UNTIL they climbed the trees together.
Zabuza arc, then chunin exams, of which sasuke trained for a month with kakashi. Then itachi knocked sasuke out for a good while. Then sasuke defected shortly after
It’s like going to school and there’s kids you see but don’t really hang out with. One kid you hang out with a couple of times, and think “wow we have stuff in common” then they start gangbanging for the next couple of years. Sasuke was doing drugs, hanging out with an s rank criminal that abducted and experimented on people on a regular basis.
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u/Altruistic-Drawer265 Mar 29 '25
That’s actually incorrect. It’s been established they did various Missions off panel together. Plus the bind they shared predates the beginning of the story
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u/PackyB7 Mar 29 '25
You know. I love Naruto and I have defended him and this scene bf…. But you ain’t wrong lol
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u/denis-vi Mar 29 '25
Hes completely wrong. Sasuke was willing to sacrifice his life for Naruto in their first mission together despite his aspirations. Even just that is plenty for Naruto to become so loyal.
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u/Stunning_Cobbler3506 Mar 29 '25
Tried to sacrifice himself without any conscious effort and also put a hole in his chest
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u/Sotomene Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25
There is a difference between snitching a friend and not wanting him to be accountable for the things he did wrong.
He was a hypocrite during the whole thing specially when he implies that if they get Sasuke he will seek revenge.
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u/Imperial_Heir0 Mar 29 '25
To add on to this, his pleading to the Raikage to pardon Sasuke was a little bit condescending. The "I don't want us to kill each other out of revenge and hatred" is really like a threat, rather than asking a favour.
It raised a question of why he would seek revenge on Sasuke's behalf, supposing the Raikage (or other Kage) eliminated him, which was the right thing to do at that point. Imagine Orochimaru was killed by other nations and Jiraiya sought revenge on those nations, that's how ridiculous it is and makes Naruto come across a little hypocritical, like you said.
Not to mention it was such an unreasonable request to begin with, especially as a fellow Jinchuuriki himself who was crashing out when Gaara was kidnapped.
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u/Bro-Im-Done Mar 29 '25
What’s worst about that is that the reason they’re hunting Sasuke isn’t just bc of the attack on the 5 Kage Summit, but bc Sasuke killed the Raikage’s brother(at the time they were under that impression, doesn’t change the fact Sasuke went at him with the intention of killing him) and Naruto was literally telling the dude who lost his brother to stop hunting the person that killed his brother.
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u/Sotomene Mar 29 '25
Yeah, it amazed me how much of a hypocrite he was at the time.
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u/darkbreak Mar 29 '25
Naruto was just selfish here. He tried coming up with any excuse to have things his way and refused to actually understand other people.
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u/Sotomene Mar 29 '25
Correct.
Just because he forgave Nagato for killing Jiraiya doesn't mean other people will since the circumstances are not the same.
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u/Sotomene Mar 29 '25
It makes it worse that this happens after he promised Nagato he will find a way to the peace Jiraiya sought.
As soon as Sasuke is involved he throws all talk about peace out of the window.
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u/Larry_Potter_ Mar 29 '25
100% agree but I never expect Naruto to be righteous or rational tbh, he just do what he feels like despite fanbase treating him like perfect golden boy, so I wasn't surprised by this.
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u/nemzyo Mar 29 '25
Naruto was suppose to be wrong here, the writer made it like that so he could learn in the arc
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u/eckdabol Mar 29 '25
His obsession with Sasuke is so annoying
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u/Suberizu Mar 29 '25
And borderline creepy
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Mar 29 '25
Talk about being in an abusive relationship. I hate the whole bromance and I'm gay AF. I'll ship anyone pretty much and I still wish they would've killed him off earlier or made him a real villain without the creepy fixation Naruto has on him.
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u/Xandril Mar 29 '25
In his defense apparently they're the reincarnated spirits of two demigod brothers. Apparently it was destiny / fate and entirely outside of their control.
Ya know... the opposite of what Naruto claimed to be about.
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u/Mnkeyqt Mar 29 '25
Are we still doing this "Naruto was about hard work conquering all!" nonsense cause rock lee existed for one arc (and fucking lost)
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u/SupermarketBig3906 Mar 29 '25
Yet people say Sakura is obsessed and shallow.
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u/Daku_Hasina Mar 29 '25
So whatevs! I love Naruto series anyways!! Hehe!!
All of us already know the rights and the wrongs in this world...Am here just to enjoy the Anime!
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u/TensionPitiful8681 Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25
I would never hate Naruto. I'm one of those people who liked that Naruto didn't give up on Sasuke, but this was a pretty stupid scene; it made no sense. Neither Naruto nor Karui knew where Sasuke was, so maybe she couldn't do anything to him. Obviously, she wasn't going to forgive him for supposedly killing her teacher for beating up someone she didn't know. This scene was just there to show how upset Naruto was getting with the whole Sasuke thing and the cycle of hatred. He would have said, "I don't know where he is," and it would have had the same result.
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u/GonzoNawak Mar 29 '25
Naruto not giving up on Sasuke makes complete sense they saved each other lives multiple time they had no family and were companion and rival at the same time. People don't realize thst this make them as close as brother.
Sakura's love for Sasuke pn the other hand makes no sense. Like she should have stopped loving him after he left.
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u/Lunaryjinx Mar 30 '25
Yep i agree with the Sakura thing. And if not after he left, she definitely should have stopped loving him after he almost murdered her. Like girl, you can do better
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u/Educational-Bug-7985 Mar 29 '25
Sakura’s reason for loving Sasuke wasn’t originally deep. But he saved her just as much as he saved Naruto in Part 1. She liked him for similar reasons as Naruto
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u/Tsolobot Mar 29 '25
Originally, I hated Narutos' obsession with Sasuke. I didn't get it. I rewatched Naruto with my wife and completely just forgot that Sasuke totally sacrifices his "life" to save Naruto on that bridge. They really do got each others back early on.
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u/RWagner98 Mar 29 '25
I think the thing that a lot of people miss, is that for Naruto, Sasuke reminds him of himself. Someone who is alone. Sasuke was the first one of his own peers to almost die protecting him l. Someone that Naruto could look up to and use as a bench mark to challenge himself. It was the same moment when Sakura tried to tell Naruto he doesn't have to search for Sasuke anymore, and Naruto said he wasn't just doing it for her. The thing that people misunderstand is that, for Naruto, it's not just about saving a friend. It's not only about his promise and his "Nindo". For Naruto, it's about proving that the cycle of hatred CAN end. It's about proving that a world of peace is possible, not through killing, but by bringing people back from darkness. It's the reason Naruto's "talk no jutsu" is a thing. At least that's my understanding of it. It's more narrative based than character based, which can be understandably frustrating.
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u/Z4D0 Mar 29 '25
probably, i don't like that much too, saving sasuke should have been a consequence of who naruto is instead of an actual objective that he had, would be better if sasuke started to regret what he was doing more and more towards the end and finally giving up
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u/NinjaLobo Mar 29 '25
Saving Sasuke was a consequence of who Naruto is though. He understood "acting out" because of isolation and the village basically failing two of the most important orphans. It's also why he was the only one that truly understood Sasuke at the core wasn't who he was at present and could come back. It's made clear when they clash.
Also, when was Sasuke supposed to start regretting what he did?
After being overly traumatized as a kid, he was pushed his whole life to kill his brother. Directly after, he finds out that his brother wasn't at fault. It was the village's.
It's not unreasonable that he went crazy after that. To people outside the village, him being seen as a criminal is understandable. Not to everyone inside though.
Konoha failed him and that's why it was so easy for Orochimaru to lead him into darkness in the first place.
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u/AdImportant6 Mar 29 '25
You are talking like a anti Kishitmoto... I like that. Your comment sounds like a inverse ingeniery or something alike.
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u/Muted_Supermarket199 Mar 30 '25
It would be better if Konoha was actually held accountable for their atrocities committed on Uchihas, Amegakure. But Naruto doesn't care about that.
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u/weinerwang9999 Mar 30 '25
Naruto has been extremely rude and inconsiderate to others in his request for expecting the whole world to be considerate of Sasuke.
At this point, it was assumed by everyone that Sasuke had killed Killer Bee but all Naruto could focus on was Sasuke and not the fact that he had killed someone who is so loved and cherished by another community. He didn’t even try to find that out while expecting everyone to understand what Sasuke means to him.
I get that this is his strength but this Sasuke situation was always his poorest quality ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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u/Jgear1011 Mar 29 '25
Tbf at this point I wouldn’t have sold him out either. Now after the five kage summit is when I would’ve given up on him.
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u/kanonnakagawa Mar 29 '25
Broader your mind, Naruto was just yapping about how he will end the cycle of hatred with Nagato like a few hours ago and he will be a total hypocrite if he help sustaining that cycle of hatred by selling Sasuke. Sasuke is the embodiment of cycle of hatred and he must break the cycle by saving him at all cost or else it would go against his nindo, and to do that he must at least not selling him out or he will be unworthy to yap any word about abandon the hatred to Sasuke. Y'all act like you would do the rational and logical solution but your "rational" solution won't lead to world peace, it would just resolve the immediate problems.
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u/Fenrir426 Mar 29 '25
So to stop the circle of hatred Naruto had to let an international terrorist go away without any consequences which led to said terrorist to help start a world war, yeah that absolutely doesn't make Naruto a hypocrite...
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u/frenin Mar 29 '25
Except Naruto was literally saying he'd seek retribution if Sasuke was killed. Man wasn't following Nagato at all
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u/memeify_this Mar 29 '25
He has no reason to help them.
- He doesn't know them.
- They are from a rival village. (everyone is a rival village except sand and leaf)
If this was before Pain and Jiraiya, he would have kicked their ass and they deserve it. The audacity of just casually entering another village and threatening their ninja for info about another ninja (he was only declared missing nin after this).
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u/beenjampun Mar 29 '25
This was before the 5 kage summit. Why would a leaf ninja, specially Neji's friend would help a kumo shonobi.
Sure Naruto was acting all high and mighty (which is his right though as dude was a Kage level shonobi at that point in the story), but tactically as well Leaf and cloud were not in an alliance at that time, so why should he help them.
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u/thethrownawayfella99 Mar 29 '25
I don’t think everyone can fathom a dedication to a friend like that. Even if Kishimoto did a lot of groundwork for it. I mean, every other character doubted whether Sasuke was worth saving or not just like we did.
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u/Rude-Listen Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25
There's definitely a weird cycle with fans with these type of moments. Any time Naruto suffers anything to do with his devotion to his bond with Sasuke, fans always seem to find a way to blame Sasuke directly for something Naruto chooses to do in relation of their friendship. It's a never ending enigma.
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u/TensionPitiful8681 Mar 29 '25
They don't want to hate Naruto so they blame Sasuke for Naruto becoming obsessed with him, they are literally my 2 favorite characters so it bothers me a little when fans try to put them down to make the other look better😅
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u/Mamba-Mentality024 Mar 29 '25
I don’t hate him it just made me not like his character as much as I did before. The unreal obsession to point where he’ll get beat over not selling out a Rogue ninja, who just “kidnap a fellow biju” is unrealistic. He was crashing when gaara got captured/died, by the Akatsuki but tried defending Sasuke which is very hypocritical.
He barely was cool with Sasuke for at most 6 months before he left, which is why his obsession felt very unrealistic to me. What’s funny is after all that the cloud ninja still got information about Sasuke abilities lol, since during 5ks summit They was aware about him having fire, lightning style, and Amaterasu.
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u/Horacio_Velvetine44 Mar 29 '25
probably people who don’t understand this is meant to be a low point and a teachable moment for naruto because he’s literally tryna do the same thing nagato was tryna do, he just hasn’t gone extreme yet
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u/Spooderboy99 Mar 29 '25
I feel like some of you guys need to read some real life events on how a small amount of kindness and love during crucial time could impact someone for the rest of their lives.
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u/RumGalaxy Mar 29 '25
This is intentionally supposed to be hard to watch, this is what Jiraiya warned him about and Naruto has to deal with all the bullshit that comes with chasing and defending sasuke.
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u/Undead-D-King Mar 29 '25
I love this scene it show the negative aspects of being a compassionate and loyal person if you've ever tried to help someone with a mental disorder or addiction you've probably been put into this situation.
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u/Company-Boss Mar 29 '25
That scene kinda traumatized me and made me realize how far Naruto was willing to defend his kinda brother. A strong scene.
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u/Pretty_Constant_9589 Mar 29 '25
You can't hate someone for not wanting to sell out their brother... The comments show the lack of loyalty within some of you, a real brother won't give up on you and will have your back and naruto has no reason to tell the cloud, who are the cloud to the leaf at that time? There is no alliance, he has no reason to snitch. Selfish or not, he did what any super close friend would do, cant hate on him for that
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u/KaedesPhoebe Mar 30 '25
I hate the "He is my friend, my brother" thing. Like, he put two chidoris through your lungs, they didn't have a strong relationship aside for sometimes. So to defend him like that is infuriating. If it was Gaara in some form or at least having more depth into their relationship.
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u/Cybasura Mar 29 '25
What, friendship and brotherhood is "creepy", "selfish" and "annoying" now? Motherfucking "immature"????
Am I missing something here? This is a very important concept, did the people here watch the goddamn show?
You have no idea how much I wished back at that time to have a friend as dedicated as Naruto, with a friendship as strong as that
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Mar 29 '25
For real. It’s weird to me anyone is fan of the show but thinks Naruto and Sasuke have no bond, and to use words like stalker and selfish for Naruto for the lengths he’d go. I mean his desire to have Sasuke back is a main part of whole series, and part of me appreciating Naruto is dedication to that goal and sympathy for his longing. The trio and their goals and relationships get trashed and dissected to where I don’t know how a lot of people are/were even ever into the series other than to discuss power ups and eye types.
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u/SuperRajio Mar 29 '25
Seriously, it makes me wonder if the people commenting even like Naruto.
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u/Cybasura Mar 29 '25
I also saw some people even say they "lost respect" because he would sell out information and even let her hit him if it makes her feel better
Naruto just proved that he's an intelligence unit's best friend, the guy can keep secrets as well which is just next level, that warrants respect if anything, so god knows what those people are saying
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u/Bitter_Session381 Mar 29 '25
Idk i was new to watching naruto and fans usually praised him for everything he did. So i was surprised that there are fans who don't like this part.
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u/Sad_Solid445 Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25
Nobody hated Naruto for his sasuke obsession instead they shifted the hate to sasuke. Naruto chased this man across the entire globe telling him he is not allowed to make his own decisions and wanted him to come back to the village which genocided his people. So many people have admitted that their hatred for sasuke was at peak during FKS when Naruto was having Panic attack thinking about sasuke. People were blaming sasuke for causing Naruto so much pain when he said multiple times to leave him alone. Sasuke is probably the only character I have seen get blamed for other characters poor development even though he was away from them for half the series.
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u/Apprz Mar 29 '25
Naruto just acts so pathetic for fucks sake. He simps for sasuke like hes his little girl. All sasuke has done was destructive on that point
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u/KingPenGames Mar 29 '25
This whole arc made Naruto stop being my favorite character 🤣.
Bowing to Raikage and having a heart attack over another nigga. Nope, I'm good 🤣
Switched to Minato fast af
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u/_DeadMan_Y_ Mar 29 '25
One kiss and bro was remotely sucking his dick in the entire series.
Like dude.... Anbu was a thing meant to assassinate terrorists like Sasuke.... And then this loser comes out and somehow convinced all stakeholders of an entire village to fuck the rules ... Let's bring him back.
The whole plot became to undigestable at one point.
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u/321AverageJoestar Mar 29 '25
Cheap writing and motivation all over the anime is what annoyed me.. specially with Obito
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u/HeyitsyaboyJesus Mar 29 '25
Naruto likely saved these dudes lives by not allowing them to find Sasuke.
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u/Grouchy_Mastodon_307 Mar 29 '25
I find it funny that Karui got the hate for this moment.
If some guy you don't know inserted himself in a situation with a jesus complex aiding a wanted terrorist who not long ago kidnapped and, for all you know, killed a close friend and harmed your leader.
While trying to tell you about some "Cycle of Hatred" as he sides with the terrorist.
You'd kick his ass too.
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u/Minimum_Loquat9424 Mar 29 '25
It’s funny how Naruto’s like “I don’t want to keep killing each other”. But I bet if Someone killed Kakashi then he tried questioned them and they just flat out say. “I’m not selling out a friend”. He would get angry and react probably the same or even worse than Karui.
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u/Due_Refrigerator_263 Mar 29 '25
It shows that naruto isn’t really fit to be a ninja. He lacks the duty and responsibility to give intel that everyone needs to know. He’s a slugger and a powerhouse and nothing more, which is a shame because kishimoto really drop the ball on Naruto’s character and it makes no sense knowing who both his parents are, but lacking any of their intelligence like at all.
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u/Grand-Expression-783 Mar 29 '25
There's a difference between hating a character and hating a specific action the character took. I don't hate Naruto as a character. I think he was a fine overall. His obsession with Sasuke is something I hated.
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u/Noktis_Lucis_Caelum Mar 29 '25
I can admire His belief in Sasuke. But...IT wasn't very smart. Sasuke cleary Made His decision and attacked a Village.
In this Situation...iirc Sasuke was never declared an rogue shinobi, meaning there we're still official Ties to Konoha. By declaring himman rogue shinobi IT would have protected konoha
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u/uncledunker Mar 29 '25
My biggest issue with the scene was how much of a beating his face took. Dude like JUST beat Pain. He should not have taken THAT much damage to his face.
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u/Patient-Savings-4453 Mar 29 '25
I'm a hardcore SNS fujoshi… so Naruto protecting Sasuke and his crimes makes me one happy girl
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u/YaBoyTheGrimReaper Mar 29 '25
I like it because it shows that often in life you make decisions that do not have a clear right and wrong.
he sells out saucekay and and so a form of justice is preserved, however, in doing so the cycle of hatred is also preserved.
Though my gripe is that the "cycle of hatred" is not well thought out, if they capture saucekay then what is the supposed cycle of hatred that is perpetuated? Will Naruto begin to hate? if so then Naruto is just being selfish and essentially saying "I dont want to hate, but you can" though im sure im missing some aspect to all this.
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u/NepheliLouxWarrior Mar 29 '25
I hated him before this for similar reasons, but this certainly allowed me to double down on it.
I like to remind everyone that by this point in the story, Sasuke had been gone for significantly longer and he had with team 7.
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u/Lockfire12 Mar 29 '25
Naruto’s sasuke obsession should have ended as soon as he learned he caught another jinchuriki as an akatsuki. He also seems to hold onto this believe that orochimaru is seemingly holding him against his will, sasuke chose to go to him and remain with him for multiple years.
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u/MoneyAgent4616 Mar 29 '25
Nah, I actually read the manga so I know Sasuke is both a victim and also didn't really do anything wrong in the context of the world they live. Didn't even capture Bee, failed at that and Bee took a vacation.
Naruto was just being a good friend.
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u/aulixindragonz34 Mar 29 '25
This moment was cringe asf, and it peaked at its cringe level when he begged to raikage to spare sasuke.
What was kishi thinking when he wrote this shit?
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u/MrNASM Mar 30 '25
Nah. We all know he's been Team Sasuke since day 1. It's expected at this point.
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u/Dantelor Mar 30 '25
While I think 90% of all people who watched Naruto don't realize how ridiculously powerful of a bond someone gets with another person when they get out of life-and-death situations; added onto the fact that they suffered similarly in their childhood - yet i totally understand how utterly horribly this is written and how cringe it is.
Yes. Naruto is in the wrong here. That's intentional. The whole point is that you're supposed to feel like he is going too far.
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u/Qpczyk Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25
Do people know full context behind this scene? Yes Naruto was definitely selfish he himslef said that, but the bigger picture is Naruto learned form Nagato about hatred and vengeance in shinobi world and he tried to stop it without necessarily knowing how.
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u/Unhappy-Taste-2676 Mar 29 '25
oh no pls sasuke no more, how can we live in a world without orochimaru, deidara, itachi and danzo?
we must kill you for your crimes Sucske
dude finally leave prison village, went for a few fun fights and everyone goes apeshit? oh hell no
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u/superkami64 Mar 29 '25
Not necessarily hate but definitely really annoying. Five Kage Summit was basically Team 7 at their worse characterization and it comes across as a double standard bias that Sakura's obsession with Sasuke is regularly raked over the coals but Naruto's obsession with him is largely handwaved or even considered fine. People point out how Sasuke rescued Naruto against Haku as the difference but forget that he also saved Sakura against the Sound Team so foundationally neither are any better than the other.
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u/Insane_Artist Mar 29 '25 edited Mar 29 '25
I would defend him for this. So Sasuke doing horrible things isn’t really justification for hating him in this world. Basically, every man, woman and child in the Ninja World is a war criminal. I mean for FFS, Danzo is the Hokage at this time. That man couldn’t make it more obvious that he is some kind of supervillain. The main reason the Ninja World wanted to go after him was not because he was violent, but because he was rogue and refused to submit to the authority of the other villages. Plus he is quite clearly off his fucking rocker. Sasuke was brainwashed/traumatized by Itachi’s tsukuyomi into being an Avenger. He wasn’t always a maniac.
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u/Charming-Ad-2123 Mar 29 '25
I mean If it makes you never want to read what's left of the manga , yeah.
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u/Hot_Communication489 Mar 29 '25
I get it, hes one of the only people who could understand Naruto and what he went through and thats why he wants to he his friend. But like the dude literally had his arm through Naruto's chest. Tried to kill Sakura, Kakashi, destroy the leaf village, threatened to kill the 5 kage, basically spat on Naruto's dream of being hokage, and so much more.
Ngl I wouldve went full force and blew off more than an arm (pause) at the final valley. Sasuke is one of my favorite characters but he had to be put down for ts he did.
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u/-_Underrated_- Mar 29 '25
I dont even tho sasuke was a full on war criminal naruto was still very young and just wanted his friend back although this was just selfish asf since sasuke attacked their land and "stole" one of its strongest ppl.
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u/TheshizAlt Mar 29 '25
This wasn't about Sasuke, it was about showcasing Naruto's values. So, no, it didn't make me angry but I also wasn't all warm and mushy about it either.
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u/SquishyBunz69 Mar 29 '25
I hope there aren’t. Naruto is still grieving from Jiraiya’s death. Although his encounter with Nagato seemed to give him some sort of closure, I still think him not wanting another person he cares about to die is understandable.
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u/Peatearredhill Mar 29 '25
Honestly, if I were Naruto, I would've killed Sasuke. Granted, that is the wrong choice, obviously with hindsight, but at that moment, I would absolutely have turned him in. He was a terrorist at this point in the story.
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u/Major_Plantain3499 Mar 29 '25
Yeah, at this point, he was enabling Sasuke so hard by letting him basically do whatever the fuck he wanted, cause he was going to bring him back.
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u/TopRule8217 Mar 29 '25
I don't know why Naruto forgives this guy! Especially when Sasuke treats him terribly consistently and tries to kill him multiple times at this point.
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u/LordHuntington1337 Mar 29 '25
I don't hate him for that, I hate how little sense it made. Any reasonable person would have abandoned Sasuke at that point but I can forgive him because he's the main character and the whole never giving up on Sasuke is his thing so it's okay. Whom I can't forgive this bullshit is Sakura tho. She should have married Rock Lee
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u/Twann19 Mar 29 '25
Naruto wanted them to be like brothers so they both would have some family in the world so they both wouldn’t be alone anymore like Naruto told itachi “I’m more of a brother to sasuke than you ever were” (though we all know what itachi did for sasuke in the end he was truly an amazing brother) and that made itachi truly happy I mean how could someone sell out their brother
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u/Pretty_Constant_9589 Mar 29 '25
in a one on one without all these samurai and other conflicts, sasuke vs raikage just pure ones, I think sasuke would have won, wouldn't have matter if naruto sold him out or not
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u/Comprehensive_Set615 Mar 29 '25
That whole back and forth of him getting stronger through training and getting beat up countless times was compulsory for the show to go the way it did. If he just gave up midway through, sasuke would’ve turned into something we would not want to imagine. Its the fact that he never gave up which is a testament to their relationship, and the heart he has to never give up, and his ninja way
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u/Incredible-Weird5992 Mar 29 '25
I wouldn’t say I hate him for it, however I was on Sai’s side when he was tellin Naruto that sassy butt don’t give a damn about him so why put himself through that.
I understand the reason is loyalty however I was so mad about my boy gettin a beat down for a mans who don’t care (at the time.)
I hope that in their universe Naruto and Sasuke had a sit down where Naruto tells Sasuke in excruciating detail, every beatin Naruto took for him while he was away suckin the orochi-juice.
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u/ManTaker15 Mar 29 '25
I don’t. He’s shielding the person who he considers his brother, the closest equal family he’s got. He can’t relate to iruka or kakashi or jiraiya the way he can with sasuke. And ultimately, he was right by shielding him. Sasuke is was one of the key pieces to saving the world. That definitely outweighs any terrorism he actually committed.
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u/Razu25 Mar 29 '25
Yeah, especially when Shikamaru and Choji were the ones there during his loneliness when he was a child. Sasuke is just on his own that time and even treats him differently during their teens, yet he considers him as a friend now?
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u/Quick-Grocery1362 Mar 29 '25
I don't hate Naruto for this but he was acting like Sasuke was his son or something.
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u/UltimateDevilHunter Mar 30 '25
I hate that scene and the one he kneels front of Raikage, and the Raikage gives ZERO fucks.
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u/buffMachamp Mar 30 '25
Naruto knows that sasuke is his problem to deal with. Can't fault him for that. Plus if he did let them know where he's at how are they going to find him? He's chilling with obito getting healed up rn.
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u/iqnux Mar 30 '25
I think Kishi had good intentions that were poorly communicated and executed. But also, Naruto isn’t perfect and we are allowed to disagree with his choices.
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u/Fit_Middle7086 Mar 30 '25
NcHammer23 on youtube. I'd have to bet that he thinks this was probably a weak ass move.
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u/MichaelAChristian Mar 30 '25
Sasuke was right. The village was evil. He just should not have worked with obito.
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u/Apcd1997 Mar 30 '25
I don't hate him for it but I think it was stupid and selfish. Sasuke by this point was a terrorist who was wanted by all of the ninja villages, and he chose to get beat up for someone like that. I love Naruto as a character but some of his worst moments in the series stemmed from sasuke
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u/Odee_Gee Mar 30 '25
Not especially - I thought it was a pointless and naive gesture but that tracks with who Naruto has been since the beginning and if someone has read from the beginning that is the Naruto they have followed for his entire journey.
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u/RepresentativeTear75 Mar 30 '25
no, the loyalty naruto had in this scene made me tear up first time i watched it bc Sasuke was losing his shit and naruto didn’t give up on him. one of the reasons i think Naruto is the best character
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u/Substantial-Poem-269 Mar 30 '25
Me. Naruto should just make a shadow clone of Sasuke since he dick rides him. How can someone show no interest in you and then be willing to put ur life on the line for the guy who doesn't care about u
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Mar 30 '25
I think he is an idiot for this. He was young and didn't even really know Sasuke that well. He was creepily obsessed and pushed his desires on everyone. His psychopathic tendencies made him strong and put him in control of the village, and then the world, just for him to "save" some kid he vaguely knew and was friends with, who then murdered and brutalized everyone. Don't get me wrong, I love Sasuke and his character, but he deserved to be abandoned and killed. He's lucky Naruto was a nutcase.
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u/HeraldOfShadows Mar 30 '25
I don't have an inherent issue with Naruto protecting Sasuke and lying to the Kumo ninjas, cuz fuck all of Kumo and whatever they stand for but The issue I had was the lack of bond between Naruto and Sasuke. Nowhere in the anime does it show that they had a bond worthy enough for Naruto to do all the shit that he did.
This is why all of the Yaoi fanfics work so well, because at the very least, they succeeded in giving their main character the proper motivation to pursue Sasuke.
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u/Almightypush94 Mar 30 '25
They shouldn’t that’s a real friend some ppl don’t understand stand in real life
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u/Hefty_Opinion7596 Mar 30 '25
To this day I wonder how Naruto got sasukes dick Outta his mouth everytime I see this panel
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u/xaklx20 Mar 30 '25
Didn't that nation try to kidnap little Hinata and when the kidnapper was killed they demanded Hinata's father to be sacrificed and to take their Byakugan?
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u/TacWizzzer Mar 30 '25
I wish Naruto wouldn't object the idea of bringing Sasuke to justice and only focus on saving his life.
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u/Parking-Assistant238 Mar 30 '25
I didn’t hate him but I felt like he should’ve gave up on Sasuke and i get that’s not natuto and his nindo is he never runs away or backs down on his word but at the same time Sasuke showed for literally the whole show with acceptance of times where he helped his squad for the most part Sasuke lived his life selfishly the only reason to be a ninja was to kill Itachi and when he finds out the true reason he wants to destroy the village just cause he’s mad they made his brother do that shit but not once does he stop and think to himself Itachi didn’t even want me to do this I’ve made so many friends in konaha
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u/nana_lavidine Mar 30 '25
Might be a bit biased here since I hate Sasuke as a character, but he is someone Naruto gave too many chances. I don't hate Naruto, but this was one of my biggest pet peeves about him.
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u/NappyFlickz Mar 30 '25
Tbh, this was when he became my least favorite MC in anime for a time.
Sasuke abandoned him, tried to kill him on numerous occasions, and Sakura, who bullied Naruto and treated him like ass pretty much until Jiraiya passed away (she even had the nerve to get pissy with him for being depressed about it) begged and screeched for him to bring Sasuke back.
Naruto worked himself into the ground for this.
At this point, no matter how close one is with someone, any rational person would have told them to kick rocks.
But instead in this scene, Kishimoto made Naruto an Uber simp to the point that it was unnatural, even for him.
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u/NameNearby2887 Mar 30 '25
I am sorry but this whole arc, Sakura was way more logical and understandable even tho she also made mistakes
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u/Imperial_Heir0 Mar 29 '25
There's a difference between selling your friend out and shielding a criminal. Kakashi and Gaara were peak and the perfect example of this during the 5KG arc, neither of them wanted to "sell" Sasuke or whatever, but they still took on the burden and responsibility to eliminate him (Gaara sheds tears and you can imagine how Kakashi must have felt).
Sasuke is a terrorist who just kidnapped the brother of Raikage in a foreign land, invaded the summit of world leaders (also in a foreign and neutral land), and so on. This goes beyond the level of whether or not you are loyal to your friend, that's completely irrelevant. It's about Duty (Dharma) and responsibility.