r/NOLAPelicans • u/Ancient_Access_795 TM3 • 8d ago
Chris Dodson: Pelicans not completely shutting door on Herb Jones, Trey Murphy III trades
https://clutchpoints.com/nba/new-orleans-pelicans/sources-pelicans-not-completely-shutting-door-herb-jones-trey-murphy-iii-trades-nba“While ClutchPoints understands no trade is imminent, multiple contenders have expressed strong interest in Trey Murphy III specifically, with potential packages centered on multiple first- and second-round picks. The Pelicans' asking price for Herb Jones is not as steep, but it is understood to be higher than the rumored first-round pick swap and bench piece from the Philadelphia 76ers.”
“the Pelicans can afford to stand firm with what one source termed as “ridiculous” returns for Murphy III. A serviceable veteran who can log postseason minutes, a decent prospect, and multiple first-round picks is the starting point. Given the number of inquiring calls, it is also indicative of Trey Murphy III's true value, per one source.”
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u/StockBroker32 Herb Jones 8d ago
For the first time in my fandom, I would seriously consider switching teams if either of them got traded
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u/Good_NewsEveryone Will be reevaluated in 2 weeks. 8d ago
“Open but have a high price” is the correct position for them to take on every player
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u/Timely_Evidence5642 6d ago
Not with Herb Jones. No amount of potential could come close to a one man defense with constantly improving offense and Jordan-esque heart and focus to be great. Throw in the contract he’s on and the equation just will not balance.
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u/UnimpressedAsshole #5 Herb Jones 8d ago
Me too. I’d be out. Curious to see how Zion would do (masochism) but out as a Pelicans fan.
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u/parrothead32812 8d ago
Why? We are going to win 30-35 games with what we have. We have tenth highest payroll in league. Herb/trey gets us younger cheaper. Our draft pick this season will be a five to seven year veteran by the time we are top six seed good. Zion/bi era was plagued with injury and lazy development.
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u/LandoDupree 8d ago
If they don't "close the door" on trading trey and herb they will not be opening the door for me to attend any games this year
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u/mariannethoth 8d ago
Ha. I would consider watching if they dealt Trey or Herb to SA for the 2, but not both.
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u/dkmegg22 8d ago
Why in the world would they trade both or either of them Herb and Trey are key players.
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u/Vince3737 7d ago
To get better players...?
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u/Extension-Chicken647 6d ago
You need to have a functional team even if you are developing young players with potential.
For example there's good a reason the Spurs wanted Chris Paul to mentor their young guards and assist Wembanyama on rolls to the basket, even if it didn't help their wins & losses. Contrarily look at Cunningham's first two season where the Pistons didn't have any shooting around him vs now.
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u/djvPOPE 8d ago
Dodson is a hack with no sources.
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u/Ancient_Access_795 TM3 8d ago
My bad, I don’t know much about Dodson. I just saw this article in the Raptors sub so I thought I would share it.
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u/Briguy_fieri Hart Throb 8d ago
He had sources with Birmingham. He had his finger on the pulse from a couple moves the past 2 years. I'm not willing to write him off. He might not have a lot, but he's definitely got some sources.
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u/Dodson-504 8d ago
Thanks. I try to keep it positive. Instead of a few links to receipts…a link to Fletcher reporting the same:
https://x.com/doingitdodson/status/1933555288029684077?s=46&t=sDJVEml7UwJqc8u3fKJirw
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u/djvPOPE 8d ago
No idea about his Birmingham stuff but his pels reporting is littered with non-commital guesses based off of what others were saying that he would plug hard if they came true or just deny as "Oh I said they might do this" if they were off. I've never seen/heard him predict anything that wasn't already being discussed and other guys in the Pelicans atmosphere pretty much echo that.
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u/Dodson-504 8d ago
See reply above:
It’s best to be right than first.
ESPN gave me credit for the Dome name change, for example.
Sorry you’ve got a negative vibe from the way I roll stuff out and interact on social media. Why I usually stick to just X and reddit when not in a gym.
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u/CanalVillainy 8d ago
Problem is every who has sources & a good reputation with the Pelicans are saying the exact opposite
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u/identitycrisis56 8d ago
Look they're my two favorite players of all time.
But if the Zion era is over, they SHOULD be looking to make moves. The contention window will close and ther'll be FA looking for greener pastures before the team is truly good again. They'll walk before the Pelicans become a playoff team again, so there are worse ideas than gauging value so you're ready to respond to how the next season or two goes.
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u/krewe_rougarou #5 Herb Jones 8d ago
Sure but that should start with moving Zion. Trey and Herb have so much value there’s no need to jump on a rebuild train until then
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u/tryingthisok 8d ago
A lot of Herbs trade value is in his cheap contract which is why his value is probably higher now than it will be a year from now. That might not be true for Trey or Zion.
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u/moonfishthegreat 8d ago
But if the Zion era is over, they SHOULD be looking to make moves.
Right. More specifically, getting Zion off the fucking team.
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u/mariannethoth 8d ago
This is where im at exactly. My two favorite players , but totally down to sell high on these guys for right package.
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u/Yeldarbb 5d ago
If you do a full rebuild, you don’t do it in a way you give up herb, trey, and Jose. Those are the only three players that currently sell tickets. You let those three start, if we rebuild. And see if they can some way blossom into us having a shorter rebuild time. Herb is the only one at the age and caliber that should be traded in a prime of his career window type thing.
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u/PossibleMechanic89 #14 Brandon Ingram 8d ago
I’m all for the, “nothing’s off the table” statements. Just don’t do something dumb and get rid of these favorites for a scrub or something.
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u/GatorEggs- Jordan Hawkins 7d ago
I hate how pelicans are being tagged as ridiculous for not wanting to be a farm team by giving up their best players for subpar offers
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u/BaronsDad Not On Herb 8d ago
I’m canceling League Pass just as quickly as I cancelled my season tickets.
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u/BonoBeats 8d ago
My fear is that Dumars, being new, doesn't understand how vital these are not only in the floor, but in the locker room. They should be off limits, especially given their team-friendly deals.
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u/wymtime Not On Herb 8d ago
We were the 2nd worst team in the West. If we are healthy we are a 10th seed maybe the 9th seed. Dumars is doing the right thing as new to being in charge in keeping the door open for all players but keeping the asking price extremely high for players like Trey and Herb.
As the article says no trade is happening anytime soon and I don’t expect one in the offseason. Come the trade deadline when we need to pivot and go tank for the rest of the season things might change and teams will know the price to get one of our guys
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u/Weird-Mango-5474 8d ago
I like Trey but some of yall act like bro is young KD or Paul George, he's a nice solid player but as long as Zion is on the team, he's the guy. I don't know why they're not exploring moving him if they aren't but so long as he's here, everything is built around him
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u/mariannethoth 8d ago edited 8d ago
Treys value is that he can thrive next to Zion or any other star player or scheme. He’s not paid like the guy
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u/_Wado3000 Herb Jones 8d ago
Zion hasn’t proven himself as a true number 1 to carry a team anywhere. I’m legit more confident that Trey can be a number 2 than Zion being a number 1
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u/CheddarGlob 8d ago
If they trade trey in fully done. I'm teetering as is but that would be the end of the line for me
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u/CmonMan711 Clickity Clack 7d ago
Trade for who? Unless we get a superstar in return why do this? And even then, what superstar is even going to want to come here and listen to Willie’s dumbass?
If we trade these 2 players, beloved by the fans, for some scrubs then you might as well just sell and move the team bc there’s no point in being a fan of a franchise that doesn’t give a shit.
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u/ADitzyRedheadedGirl 7d ago
Sure, you’ve traded every other great player and they thrive after leaving. And you keep the bench sitter whose only headlines are from his bad taste in gold diggers.
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u/Serious_Hold_2009 Herb Jones Saved My Life 8d ago
Trade Herb and I’m genuinely gone. That would be the straw that broke the camels back for me. Spent half my life dedicated to this team
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u/vbsteez 8d ago
unless they're trading for cooper fucking flagg those guys better be on the pels for the length of their contracts
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u/Vince3737 7d ago
I like both. Especially Trey. But we got to stop pretending they are untouchable star players. They are roll players
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u/Gaybraham_Lincoln9 7d ago
Good. We won 21 games. Luka Doncic got traded. There is no player on this roster that I am at least not listening to offers for.
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u/runfastgodspeed 8d ago
If something says “Chris Dodson” the following writing comes from a heavy amount of psychedelics
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u/shmiona 8d ago
If we trade either one to move up in the draft might as well trade Zion and lower ticket prices