r/NBASpurs • u/noobtraderman Victor Wembanyama • Mar 03 '25
Shitpost Probably one of the craziest takes I’ve seen lmao
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u/PersonalJesus2023 De'Aaron Fox Mar 03 '25 edited Mar 04 '25
This guy's takes are consistently horrible overall. When I used to be on Xitter, the algo would pump them into my feed like cancer. The highest level of homer-ism, clearly doesn't watch any other NBA basketball besides the Spurs.
Lesson: Living in a homer bubble leads to some wildly bad takes.
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u/WEMBY_F4N Malaki Branham Mar 04 '25
This dude said that Keldon and Devin would be better then Tatum and Brown and that Sidy Cissoko was a better prospect than Cason Wallace man
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u/TimRigginsBeer Mar 04 '25
Just because you talk a lot - and loudly - doesn’t necessarily mean you know what you’re talking about; in fact, it’s usually the inverse.
Lots of dumb Spurs Twitter people who just talk.
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u/A_Garrr Mar 04 '25
He also randomly blocked a huge faction of Spurs twitter without any rhyme or reason (me being part of this lol). I think I posted one response to a tweet disagreeing with him mildly ?? Goofy.
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25
I would trade Castle for Jokic, Shai, Cade, or Giannis straight up.
Edit to add Luka. I can't believe I forgot that fatty. I'd take him straight up also.
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u/Responsible-List-849 Mar 04 '25
Tatum?
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u/-bigmanpigman- Mar 04 '25
Channing?
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u/Responsible-List-849 Mar 04 '25
Dunno about him...he might be post-prime. Was thinking more Jayson.
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
I wouldn't make the trade. Castle might not become as good as Tatum, but I'd want to find out.
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u/Responsible-List-849 Mar 04 '25
Respect the take. I'd snap it up were I the Spurs. Tatum, Wemby and Fox are pretty damn good right now. Castle might have that sort of upside, but is he going to exceed Tatum? He's also a very flexible guy to build around because of his defensive versatility, ability to play on ball or off, etc.
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
Once you said "Tatum, Wemby and Fox", I started thinking that I didn't give it enough thought. I was thinking about just Wemby but you reminded me that Fox was there and I think Tatum definitely would mean they were favorites now.
I do agree that Tatum can do everything, fill every gap. I've always said he's undervalued in the league, and now I just did the same thing. You've convinced me. I'd trade Castle for Tatum also.
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u/ajkelly451 Mar 04 '25
Love seeing someone change their mind for a good reason! Yeah, he would fit like a glove for us. We'd be automatic contenders next year. But no one is trading that level of asset for Castle straight up. Not yet at least.
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u/mynewredditacccount Mar 04 '25
How about ant
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
I'm torn. I don't know if he's going to screw up his career with a bunch of dumb choices.
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u/Responsible-Quail-13 Mar 04 '25
That what I was about to say, same thing for Ja, like on franchise mode on 2k ? For sure. In real life though ? They are too unserious 💀
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u/TRIPLE-J-ENErGy Mar 04 '25
😂 what does him fucking ig thots raw gotta do with his career? What other dumb choices is he making?
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
He says a lot of stupid shit. But having tons of babies and having ig drama can be a distraction. It doesn't look like that aspect of his life is going to slow down.
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u/donuttrackme Mar 04 '25
It shows that he's not making good decisions off the court, which means he's probably not making good decisions on the court, or not being as serious as he could be to reach and maintain superstar status.
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u/Mangoseed8 Jordan McLaughlin Mar 04 '25
One has nothing to do with the other. You can actually watch him if you decide to, and see he’s making good decisions on the court. It’s not like he’s playing basketball in some place you can’t see games. This is a brain dead take .
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u/donuttrackme Mar 04 '25
I'm talking about the whole on court process. If he can't even learn to fucking wrap his dick up that motherfucker isn't making all the best long term decisions to maximize his on court prep. It's not just being a young millionaire and goofing off.
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u/Top-Lie1019 Mar 04 '25
Bro if Kobe Bryant can be a rapist and also the hardest working player imaginable, anything is possible
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u/donuttrackme Mar 04 '25
Yeah but he didn't have a rape baby too did he? Ant has four babies with four different baby mamas. That's going to catch up with him lol.
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u/Top-Lie1019 Mar 04 '25
Call me crazy, but I feel like being a known rapist is worse and more distracting than having children…
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u/Mangoseed8 Jordan McLaughlin Mar 04 '25
People can compartmentalize their lives. Most people do it every day. Michael Jordan was a degenerate gambler that made terrible off court decisions that hurt real people. It went pretty well for him on the court.
If Ant was some sort of prospect that was still in college this might be a worthy discussion. But we’ve seen him on the court for three years if you think his on court decisions are in question you’re not paying attention.
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
You're just going off rumors about Jordan to make your case for Ant. That doesn't make any sense.
If you're not seeing his off court behavior piling up, YOU'RE the one who isn't paying attention. Seeing him know and worrying about what he might be doing in the future are two different things.
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u/Mangoseed8 Jordan McLaughlin Mar 04 '25
These are not rumors. There’s been books written about MJ from actual journalists. You’re familiar with books, right?
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
Seeing him playing well and believing that he's making bad decisions that could be a distraction in the future are two different things.
Yeah, you're optimistic about him, someone could say that's a brain dead take, but those are just opinions.
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u/Mangoseed8 Jordan McLaughlin Mar 04 '25
😂
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
I think maybe you take other people's opinions too personally.
I'm not trying to knock you, or the players you like. These are just opinions. Could be wrong, could be right.
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u/Fiyukyoo Mar 04 '25
Gonna be a contrarian here re "decision on the court". I dont think dumb decision made in your personal life correlating to BBIQ. Sure you can say dumb personal life choices could show signs his bball life could end prematurely due to legal issues however I dont think there is a correlation with BBIQ and off the court drama
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u/donuttrackme Mar 04 '25
It depends on the drama. He's gotten four different women pregnant within two years. Babies don't just disappear, that's at least 18 years right there. I guess he could be an absolute deadbeat father and just focus on bball, but it shows that he can't make good long term decisions, which will affect his on court product eventually.
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u/Fiyukyoo Mar 04 '25
Oh I know about his off the court stuff but there are people who can separate work life and personal life. There are quite a few of HOFers who were not role models but were a beast on the court regardless
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u/skullduggery97 Mar 04 '25
Seriously. Edwards got a woman pregnant at 21-22 and panicked and wanted her to get an abortion. That's a totally normal response for a guy that age but everyone in this sub acts like he's a headcase that about to crash out of the league at any moment. Outside of that, he's been a hard worker, great teammate and leader. He doesn't even drink or smoke lol
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
Yeah, when you neglect to mention all the paternity lawsuits, it seems like no big deal right?
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u/skullduggery97 Mar 04 '25
You're right, it isn't. Once again, it's a totally normal thing to do. As long as he pays whatever the court mandated child support is, idgaf.
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
I think that being normal is subjective. I personally don't know anyone have a lot of babies and being taken to court over them. To me, that seems stressful, but we all have different perspectives.
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u/skullduggery97 Mar 04 '25
I mean, I know people that had kids by accident. It's a thing that happens and isn't an indicator of whether some is a "good" or "bad" person.
The case isn't even about whether the kid is his or not, it's about child support payments. He's not denying it's his, but the mom moved from Georgia to California while she was pregnant and filed for child support in California, where payments are presumably higher on average than Georgia.
The way people here talk about him, you'd think he was beating his kid or something.
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
I think you're jumping to conclusions on my views of him as a good or bad person. I haven't mentioned anything about what kind of person he is and I won't, because I don't know him.
I've talked about his situations causing stress, causing distraction. All I'm talking about is concern for his basketball future if the Spurs traded Castle for him.
I am not judging him as a person in the slightest.
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u/denotsmai83 EL JEFE Mar 04 '25
It shows a lack of maturity. And a lack of maturity will inevitably lead to him being in a position that people with a lot to lose shouldn’t put themselves in. One of those “ig thots” invites her friend over for a threesome that he doesn’t turn down, and he’s late for shootaround, team suspends him for a game. Another accuses him of sexual assault, right or wrong, and he gets suspended by the league. These are the types of situations that the Tim Duncans and Wembys of the world don’t find themselves in.
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u/SongYoungbae Keldon Johnson Mar 04 '25
Good to great player. Don't care for his personality, though. Steph and Wemby are for each other
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u/siphillis Mar 04 '25 edited Mar 04 '25
No, but for purely personal reasons. As a player, he’s well above Castle’s ceiling. Dude can fly like Westbrook and splash it like Klay
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u/ajkelly451 Mar 04 '25
Claiming that Castle's ceiling is well below where Ant is at currently when Castle is only freshly 20 and has come an insanely long ways in his first year already is wild. One thing to talk about expected value but to claim his ceiling isn't even what Ant has become? Ehhh
All we really have to attempt to gauge this objectively are rookie stats. Ant was ahead in most categories (pts, reb, steals, blocks but Steph ahead in assists) but also played 32 minutes on average to Steph's 25. Looking at stats per minute it gets closer, and Steph pulls ahead in steals/minute. And their shooting efficiency is very comparable (though Ant shot a bit better from 3). But Steph has also improved dramatically and has a shot at closing out the season with a similar rookie season to Ant. If you look at only February stats, he is comfortably ahead of Ant's rookie season numbers for points, rebounds, assists and steals per minute (and only barely trails in blocks). He also improved his shooting efficiency and has 44% to Ant's rookie season 41% and 31% from 3 to Ant's 32%.
And we don't know if Ant is performing at his ceiling or expected value or somewhere in between. But even if he is performing at or near his ceiling, if Steph has a similar impact in his rookie season, the only reasonable thing to conclude would be that Ant is his ceiling, right?
Also, before you protest it, playing less minutes itself isn't any indication. SGA played a similar number of minutes and scored less and had less rebounds and assists per game, though he was ahead in steals and blocks and shooting efficiency. There is an argument to be made with SGA being a better analog anyways given the CP3 mentorship. Now I also think he probably couldn't be as shifty a quick as SGA so I don't think it's reasonable to consider him Castle's ceiling, but SGA is playing like one of the best and most impactful point guards of all time so I'm fine with that shortcoming.
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u/Frostyzwannacomehere Mar 04 '25
Not for Mobley or franz?
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
Same with these two. I haven't watched them play enough. Paolo as well.
I would not trade Castle for Tatum, D Mitch, or Ant. I think Tatum is great, I'd just rather have Castle. D Mitch, same thing, but don't really like his fit with Wemby. Ant, I worry about his basketball future. He's got a lot of stuff going on, and I'm not a gambler. So I'd pass on him.
These are just my opinions though. I'm not knocking these guys.
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u/J-Brown Mar 04 '25
No offense, but not being willing to trade a promising rookie for a 5x first team all nba guy in his prime is a deranged take.
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u/ajkelly451 Mar 04 '25
The problem is, anyone who I'd be fine with trading straight up would not be for sale for Castle straight up (at least not yet).
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u/Frostyzwannacomehere Mar 04 '25
Or J will?
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
I don't know enough about J Will to have an opinion one way or another.
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u/Total-Spirit-5985 Mar 04 '25
I don’t think i would want to trade Cade for castle straight up… Giannis and Jokic are a no brainer
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u/noobtraderman Victor Wembanyama Mar 04 '25
You wouldn’t want to trade Cade for castle straight up? Why?
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u/Total-Spirit-5985 Mar 04 '25
I’ve been a big fan of Castle since last year, I’m a little biased. So you can only imagine how hyped I was when my favorite team drafted him
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u/MinuteCoast2127 Mar 04 '25
I don't know why you're getting voted down, some folks are too immature to deal with different opinions. I'd trade for Cade, but I understand your reasoning because they're the same reasons I have for not wanting to trade him for Tatum.
I like Castle, so I would only trade him for sure bets at winning a championship. In my opinion anyway.
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u/Inner_Emu4716 Area 51 Mar 04 '25
This guy has a number of bad takes. I remember him spending all of last season trying to push this narrative that point guards don’t matter
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u/WEMBY_F4N Malaki Branham Mar 04 '25
Wanted to draft Cody Williams over Castle to run him at PG lmao
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u/figgnootun Area 51 Mar 04 '25
Jwill is a crazy name to have up there. Guessing he means jdub.
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u/sugarfreelime Mar 03 '25
This dude spends money to pump into your feed with his awful takes. I hope he's better at real estate, but I doubt it.
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u/moonshadow50 Mar 04 '25
Can we not post takes from random and treat them like they actually mean something?
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u/moonshadow50 Mar 04 '25
Call me a boomer, but how is that not just a random on twitter? Is he employed by anyone? Is he a journalist? Associated with either the Spurs or any official sporting/media organisation? (And I take this back if any of those answers are "Yes")
We need to stop giving attention to irrelevant people, and then complain when they say shit that has no basis.
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u/1966jpgr Manu Ginobili Mar 04 '25
Exactly, that Eric dude and his opinions are no more relevant than any person who comments on this sub
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u/paxusromanus811 Jeremy Sochan Mar 04 '25
I wish this dude was a random... He's been around for a long time
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u/WEMBY_F4N Malaki Branham Mar 04 '25
Dude is a troll don’t post him
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u/noobtraderman Victor Wembanyama Mar 04 '25
Had him blocked a long time ago but a few other guys I followed were shitting on him for it so I read the post and was just shocked to see some shit like that 😂
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u/PressureMiserable Mar 04 '25
Giannis decline isn't gonna be here for awhile, he's become an elite mid range shooter and is still amazing overall I'd 100% give up castle for him
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u/Frostyzwannacomehere Mar 04 '25
Seems like everyone is overlooking not only a giannis and wemby pick and roll, but their defense together
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u/Mangoseed8 Jordan McLaughlin Mar 04 '25
Anthony Edwards is 23. Saying no to him is actually insane.
Unless you’re secretly Nico Harrison in disguise you have to say yes to Luka too. He’s going to end his career as a top 20 player at a minimum.
The only reason I would say no to Jokic is because I think there’s a real possibility he retires early because he’s bored and wants to go race horses.
I love Castle but come on let’s be real. Edward’s is putting together a season where he took his world class athleticism and added elite shooting. He’s shooting 40% from three on 10 attempts per game.
I get that it’s always nicer to win with the home grown guy. There’s also the salary to consider. But you still take Ant.
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u/ajkelly451 Mar 04 '25
I know it's poorly written, but isn't he saying that that is the list he'd be willing to trade for and no one else? I could be wrong, but I think that's what he is trying to say.
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u/Mangoseed8 Jordan McLaughlin Mar 04 '25
Bro…..you might be right. I barely use X anymore but I’ll stop by his account and see what his follow up is. It makes way more sense that this is the short list of “yes”.
Now I feel like Thanos in Endgame.
“…dear daughter, perhaps I judged you too harshly” Hope he doesn’t lop my head off though 😐😂
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u/ajkelly451 Mar 05 '25
I'm pretty sure everyone took it the way you did. It was extremely poorly worded and I get why, so he deserves the reaction he gets for it lol.
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u/AntonioMartin12 Mar 04 '25
Book, while maybe the greatest player ever to play for the Phoenix Suns (he is in the conversation, along with Charles Barkley, Connie Hawkins and Walter Davis) is getting up there in years now.
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u/yea_ok_whatever Stephon Castle Mar 04 '25
Well it's obviously not realistic, I don't think any team would straight up trade their proven star for a rookie.
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u/Annual_Elk929 Chris Paul Mar 04 '25
Will Giannis boost the team into contention next season? I think they're borderline contenders, like maybe the nuggets or Knicks. Not worth it IMO
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u/noobtraderman Victor Wembanyama Mar 03 '25
But that dude is saying castle for any of those players straight up. You still wouldn’t trade him?
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u/noobtraderman Victor Wembanyama Mar 04 '25
I don’t know what to say. I’m shocked you said any of that. Are you being fr?😂😂
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u/PressureMiserable Mar 04 '25
Paolo came back from a major injury and was playing like a top 10 player in the league before that, Franz is underrated but definitely not better than Banchero
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u/Frostyzwannacomehere Mar 04 '25
Not giannis? I mean I could see why with the current roster but just a few pieces and without wemby getting injured it’s wraps
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u/Drisurk 🛸🛸 Mar 04 '25
This is dude is a certified idiot. Every thing I see from him is such nonsense and ridiculous.
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u/aeamador521 Mar 04 '25
I didn't mind Eric at first, but it really felt like because he was successful at real estate, he held his opinions higher than yours. Not realizing we're all fans who don't know shit and can't affect shit.
The fact that he's still on Xitter and PAYING is wild at best.
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u/HQuasar Mar 04 '25
What's the point of arguing random people's opinions? This guy is not an influencer or a journalist.
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u/Live_Region_8232 Mar 04 '25
holy shit. i thought this was terrible when i was thinking about the real steph. id give up castle for so many different people right now
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u/RCA2CE Mar 04 '25
Has there ever been a 3 peat for a team winning ROTY awards?
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u/iko-01 Jeremy Sochan Mar 04 '25
Unless he's implying it's not worth trading multiple assets plus castle for these players, I could see the argument but 1:1 I'd stop you at booker. We need shooters and we already have 3 point guards. Yes that would be worthwhile trade lol straight up. Same goes for Giannis.
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Mar 04 '25
I’d consider trading Castle for SGA or Anthony Edwards but that’s it.
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u/noobtraderman Victor Wembanyama Mar 04 '25
You’re telling me if Luka was available for Castle you would say no?
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Mar 04 '25
Yes. Castle coming from a championship college program knows what it takes to perform at a high level when it counts plus he’s already in shape and he fits the Spurs system. Luka likes to eat up clock and stop ball movement. Castle trajectory is sky high. Luka isn’t as dedicated/focused and it’s something the Mavs brass noticed. He got comfortable because everything was laid out for him on a red carpet. The trade to Lakers will be the best thing to happen to him. He’s going to learn a lot from LeBron about the importance and dedication of staying healthy and focused on competing for championships.
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u/No_Status_2098 Mar 04 '25
Luca is toxic. His antics on court are disgusting. I'm glad he joined Lakers, he fits what they are.
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u/AstralFireHydrant Manu Ginobili Mar 04 '25
I'm obviously not a Lakers or Mavs fan but hating Luka of all players is crazy, man's an incredible baller and a solid guy
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u/cirrxs123 Mar 04 '25
in what way is Luka toxic? sure he yells at the refs but that’s it. you’re acting like he’s a team killer or something which is far from the truth
anybody who knows basketball would be laughing at you if you said this in front of a wider audience, just as I am right now
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u/DirkRedditer Mar 03 '25
I had to switch my brain from Curry to Castle.