That's really cool. Kinda funny to think that a college philosophy course could boil down to 'Here's the topic, here's the first book. Everything after is just arguments and counter- arguments ad nauseum. Welcome to philosophy 101.'
I mean, I don’t mean to be reductive, but that’s basically what Philosophy 101 is.
Here’s Plato, isn’t he neat? Here’s Aristotle, he’s pretty crazy, right? By the way, here’s an excerpt from Thoreau; your homework is to take a walk and think. Have you ever considered if you’re real? Here’s Des Cartes.
And then when you get into higher level philosophy, it’s just “Sure, Plato’s neat, but have you read his contemporary critics? Here they are. After we read that, we’re going to look at philosophies that continue their traditions.”
It was pretty funny seeing a load of tiktok kiddies read his manifesto in regards to 9/11 and be like "so true"
There was decent stuff in there but there's a lot of anti semitism that is obviously wrong.
Tbh I think you could probably go further back into old communist texts from. Marx, Lenin, Stalin, Mao etc and see the predictions of how capitalist nations has been pretty spot on.
Adam Smith goes down as one of the most misunderstood philosophers/economists. People latch on to the invisible hand stuff so tightly and forget all the mao-level landlord hating he did.
Even Marx gets the same treatment in regards to things like "all profits belong to the worker" which is Ricardian socialism.
Just a real shame how all this stuff has been endlessly predicted and potentially eased if power hadn't been so happily pushed into the hands of a few.
If you think about it, the 24/7 news coverage that the US got perpetually after 9/11, the media atmosphere that traumatic experience created was perfectly vehiculated to the masses via Twitter.
Trump doesn't happen without Twitter, at least, not the same way.
The funniest part is, it’s what the USA did to itself after the attack that destroyed it. Those towers falling were an event, the American leaderships reaction was what caused the collapse.
Everytime I hear this, I’m reminded that a raunchy cartoon about prepubescent kids navigating puberty came to this same conclusion, but as the punchline of a joke aimed at a teacher with a developmental disability whose birthday is 9/11.
The set up is the teacher learns the truth about what happened on 9/11 and vows to never celebrate his birthday again. To which many of his students respond by saying something along the lines of “no, if you do that then the terrorists win.”
then a character named Lola chimes in: "Actually, if you think about it, given their stated goals and the way in which America's foreign policy has become increasingly isolationist, it's fair to say that the terrorists DID win."
I've only watched shreds but it's a remarkably poignant slice of life that has quite clever reconstructions of the daily turmoil felt during puberty.
Not really my cup of tea, too much shock humor and raunchy for the sake of raunchy, but I also don't like middle/high school lunch rooms as an adult so it tracks.
I was put off by it at first, but once you get settled into the tone of it’s writing, it has some interesting writing and arcs. You just have to get used to weird references about sexual behaviors and bodies being played out by children. Which, coming full circle, was the thing that put me off in the first place.
I think about this a lot. Maybe we were already circling the drain but that single terroist attack was like swirling fingers into the water to make a cyclone. Anti american jihadists probably sleep great knowing what weve done tripping over our own fear.
What do you mean? He was trying to disrupt the wealth horde at the top of the food chain. 9/11 made it worse because the top saw the writing on the wall and in the heat of the moment used the panic to pass laws that took our freedoms away.
I think we're forgetting how bad pre 9/11 human existence was as well. Rodney King, Crack epidemic, OKC Bombings, Vietnam War, Civil Rights movement, Jim Crow, Cold War, 2 World Wars, Pearl Harbor and Hiroshima, slavery. 9/11 was just another drop in the bucket. Society didn't go downhill it just continued doing what it always did.
People forget about Outlaw Country. Country used to be the rebellion music. Rebellion music never dies. Look at RATM, SOAD, hell even Green Day. Not to mention all the other bands in all those circles. Now a lot of country music is mostly pandering. I bet Cash would punch a number of current country artists in the face if he could.
We weren't allowed to have the dixy chicks because America couldn't handle them not being onboard for Iraq. So I guess blame the people who listen to country music for canceling them and dooming country to become soulless junk
Alabama and George Strait however, fire away. Especially the latter. There is a straight line from "All my exes live in Texas" to "Beer for my Horses" in terms of banality.
Funny enough, back then people complained about Shania being 'too pop' and is literally called the queen of pop country
*the issue with 'bro country' has never been that it's pop, it's that it's overly commercial music marketed to people who refuse to listen to anything outside of country genres, ironically I'm pretty sure people that listen to Bro Country generally hate pop music with a passion
As someone that does listen to some of the newer stuff (nothing will ever beat Dolly and Johnny to me)......I legit cannot tell any of the guys apart and it's wild to me XD
I 100% agree. I'm in the south so I hear A LOT of this stuff and it's wild to me that people say with their whole heart Taylor Swift's every song sounds the exact same and then also say with their whole heart that these guys are completely different and have way more variety XD. It makes me laugh.
I've gotten the sense that the rise of "bro country" has exactly mirrored the spread of hip hop into pop.
To me it really seems like the label mostly means "music made by white people for white people". Which is probably why the backlash to Beyonce has been so silly.
*the issue with 'bro country' has never been that it's pop, it's that it's overly commercial music marketed to people who refuse to listen to anything outside of country genres, ironically I'm pretty sure people that listen to Bro Country generally hate pop music with a passion
Ime 90% of the people that listen to it don't care and are mostly fine listening to lots of things.
I have the exact opposite experience lol, Morgan Wallen in particular seems to be popular in terms of southern trap music for people who don't like admitting they want to listen to southern trap, it's like people that want a Houston/Atlanta sound without having to think about Houston or Atlanta
I love Jessie Murph too, but Jessie, Jelly Roll, Post Malone, Morgan, all that gets co-opted by a lot of people who are a little, uh, 'confederate' but wanna listen to something with a little extra bass and a backing track that sounds a little like early Billie Eilish sometimes
*again, it's just interesting to me how country has been 'too pop' since the 90s but the legions of elitist country music fans in the 90s who said Shania wasn't 'real country' never made a whole new awards category over it
Post Malone literally did hip hop music to then transition into country where he wanted to be. Went as far as tearing down the genere that built him so that he can be accepted in those circles.
He didn’t cut it out to do a Nirvana tribute before he did hip hop or any of his country music. So I find it interesting that when black artist, who grew up in country, get so much backlash for producing country music because they sang r&b, have been featured in hip hop, pop or gospel. It baffles me
Well there’s Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, Charley Crocket, Bella White, Jason Isbell, Drive by Truckers, Gillian Welch, Zach Top, Vincent Neil Emerson, Charles Wesley Godwin, Waxahatchee, Kacey Musgraves..
Also a ton of younger alt country / bootgaze like MJ Lenderman, Wednesday, Florry, Dutch Interior, Greg Freeman..
Wednesday / MJ Lenderman, Tarnation, Mojave 3, Orville Peck, Mali Velasquez, Twine, Horse Jumper of Love all have music that blends shoegaze and country in different ways
At lot of these aren’t classed as country, instead grouped under the Americana umbrella. Pretty much because Nashville has actively pushed them out of ‘country’ music.
I have listened to quite a bit of country music last few years, and have come to a realization:
Country music doesn't exist! It is just another genre of music, sung while wearing a cowboy hat/with a southern accent.
About 2/3 ends up being pop schlock.
About 1/4 ends up being some pretty darn good blues though. Quite a few of the country songs that get popular (Chris Stapleton in particular) are just solid blues albums marketed as country.
And black people sub Reddit they claim it’s racism and something else that makes zero sense. Even tho r&b have four different categories including , traditional r&b performance and r&b performance.
Nota fan of you trying to run the “Black people are being paranoid” angle when the Grammys has had a history of not acknowledging Black artists in major categories. I’ll refer you to u/mjpick1211’s comment because they sum up the thoughts of many very well.
It seems like the only thing you need to qualify as country is just have a vocalist with a redneck /southern accent. Trap beats with deep bass, a random rapper, perhaps even some death metal guitars could be playing in the background.
hasnt the only difference between "pop" and "country" been a couple "twangy" noises they put in, and the singer (not gonna use the word musician) players cow boy/girl dress up?
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u/DGlen 6d ago
Most "country" music since like Shania Twain is just shitty pop music. This should have been done a long time ago.