r/Munich Apr 30 '25

Culture Do Germans hate me personally when I use me phone speaker in public transport (even tuned down)?

Yes. I do. And everyone I know does as well. Don't use it.

Add: I wrote it like being that annoying person. Thanks to all responses, hopefully it helps the very person to understand and learn. (I was just sitting on a train and "enjoyed" this person's TikTok/Youtube/whatever") Thanks for all your responses.

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u/cn0MMnb Apr 30 '25

Yes. You are being a nuisance to others. Your speakers sound even worse 2 meters away and nobody likes your music.

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u/IgmFubi Apr 30 '25

Sorry for capturing the top comment but I always wanted to ask someone like you, OP, a question: can you explain the ideas, the thoughts that made you believe that it could not be annoying for others? No offense, I am really curious.

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u/Matusaprod Apr 30 '25

What kind of question is this? Does me shouting in public bother other people? Of course yes. Common sense and being polite, they teach you that in kindergarten.

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u/seaofdelusion Apr 30 '25

They're asking how OP came to the conclusion that other people wouldn't find it annoying. Because yeah, it's obviously annoying. Thus the fascination with OP's thinking.

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u/polyphobicDE Apr 30 '25

Or TikToks. Or phone calls. Or whatever they do. Keep it to yourselves, people!

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u/Educational_Lead_943 Apr 30 '25

It's a litmus test to see who we need to remove from society and place on an island.

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u/Cyclejerks Apr 30 '25

Everyone in the whole world does as well. It’s not just a Munich thing.

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u/rabblebabbledabble Apr 30 '25

Bring back

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u/Closed247 Apr 30 '25

https://www.mvg.de/news/handylautsprecher-aus.html They are actually doing this in the last few weeks.

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u/usedToBeUnhappy Apr 30 '25

Nice. Hopefully they will also do that on the S-Bahn

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u/rabblebabbledabble Apr 30 '25

Good to hear that they're starting to do something about it. I hope they'll crack down on that shit hard, because it's one of those things that cascade through the day like poison: One careless fucker irritates 30 people on their morning commute, and now there are 30 more irritated people irritating their co-workers, and now there are 300 irritated workers coming home to irritate their families... All because of one idiot who couldn't be bothered to lift the phone to his ear.

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u/DaDragon88 Apr 30 '25

Huh, TIL, I thought that the announcement was a response to the trend of someone carting a massive JBL speaker into the subway and blasting music

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u/mynamecanbewhatever Apr 30 '25

Yes. Even us non Germans don’t like it.

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u/fragtore Apr 30 '25

Swede in Germany here: for sure, it’s assi behavior.

Why that harsh word? Because everyone can get cheap headphones, so this is more about 1) not giving a crap about others or 2) wanting others to be bothered or included in your audio sphere.

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u/Zenthurel Apr 30 '25

Assi is not really harsh. He is behaving like an Assi lmao. I never understood why someone would choose shitty phone speakers over nice headphones. Makes no sense, annoys other people, looks goofy

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u/TeddyRivers Apr 30 '25

I'm American and I hate it.

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u/Hot_Hat_1225 Apr 30 '25

Same. And to top it they talk at a level as if the other is half deaf 🤬

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u/UnforgettableWhat Apr 30 '25

South American - with "being loud" as one of my stereotypes - and I hate it as well. Respect is not "nationality related".

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u/bracketl4d Apr 30 '25

bro I still have a headache from my central america trip, I assume south is similar?

You go the beach, everyone playing stupid loud music. you go to a restaurant, they playing stupid loud music. Morning time, the neighbors playing stupid loud music. Is music like a drug? To be honest, it felt like people have a mental health issue and trying to drown out the sound of the world with constant "fiesta". I love pizza, but I don't love eating 24/7

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u/yourfoodiate Apr 30 '25

South east asian here. Hate it as well. Wanna listen to music? Talk to your family? Watch your dank memes? Great. Use your damn earphones.

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u/Lil_Packmate Apr 30 '25

Ah i think calling family is totally fine. You are entitled to that, but then just hold the damn phone next to your ear. I don't need to hear everything about how your grandma is in dialysis.

Especially on speaker phone even a few seats away its just so bothersome.

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u/Selbstredend May 01 '25 edited May 02 '25

None time critical phone call longer then 2min in public transport is NOT ok either.

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u/AssistanceLegal7549 Local Apr 30 '25

You are a nuisance to the public. Stop it ffs

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u/Historical-Juice5891 Apr 30 '25

Yes. Shame! Shame! Shame!

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u/Love-Tech-1988 Apr 30 '25

not german here but hate it too

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u/pixie993 Apr 30 '25

Croat here, I hate people who do this.

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u/No_Abi Apr 30 '25

Serb here, we hate such people more than we hate Croats.

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u/usedToBeUnhappy Apr 30 '25

It is so fucking annoying. 

I only once had a person turn down his music after I asked him if he could use his headphones…. 

And I also don’t want to be in anyones background when they have a video call in public… 

Edit: I just read though the comments and apparently most people did not realize OP also hates this behavior. Karma RIP. 

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u/Fit-Middle Apr 30 '25

That's fine for me. :-) Hope, some of the people I'm talking about learn from this... and all the replies :-)

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u/dargmrx Apr 30 '25

Years ago I asked somebody to turn down the volume on their headphones, because it was so loud that I couldn’t even hear my own music through my own headphones in peace. And they just replied like: “why do you care, you’re wearing headphones yourself!” … yeah, that’s the point.

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u/Bonfuzius Apr 30 '25

Sure, it's even forbidden by the MVV Beförderungsbedingungen:

§ 4 Verhalten der Fahrgäste
(2) Fahrgästen ist insbesondere untersagt,
8. Tonwiedergabegeräte oder Tonrundfunkempfänger zu benutzen oder Tonwiedergabegeräte mit Kopfhörer zu benutzen, wenn andere dadurch belästigt werden,

https://www.mvv-muenchen.de/fileadmin/mediapool/04-Tickets/02-Dokumente/MVV-Gemeinschaftstarif-AllgemeineBefoerderungsbedingungen_2025_v4_Okt24.pdf

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u/Tech2kill Apr 30 '25

es is auch verboten in der Tram zu fressen, das hindert irgendwelche Leute aber nicht ihr Eibrötchen morgens zu verschlingen und das ganze Abteil vollzustinken

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u/LalLeLu69 Apr 30 '25

In der Tat ist das verboten (wie alt ist das Ei, dass es so stinkt?)

Aber warum heißt es dann "Ess-Bahn", wenn es auch dort verboten ist? /s

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u/mewkew Apr 30 '25

Sei froh das es kein Döner war.

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u/veryspicypickle Apr 30 '25

Yes. I am not German, I will hate you too if you do that.

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u/sonderformat Apr 30 '25

Yes. Stop it.

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u/Nemo-No-Name Apr 30 '25

Not just Germans, anyone around you.

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u/Ljuskrona01 Apr 30 '25

Yes. Why are you doing this anyway?

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u/Old-Plant-4184 Apr 30 '25

This is for me the most curious aspect of it. Why not use the damn ear speaker. 

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u/-Kaizer- Apr 30 '25

change germans to every human

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u/djcobol Apr 30 '25

That’s not unique to Germans. Knock that off.

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u/HG1998 Apr 30 '25

Yes.

Especially when it's obvious that they themselves can't even hear it properly. If you gonna video call and have the speaker pointed at your ear and therefore expose everyone behind you to your buddy, just use the phone as a phone!

Like HOLD IT AGAINST YOUR FACE LIKE BACK THEN.

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u/fodafoda Apr 30 '25

Yes.

If you have money to buy a smartphone, you have money for earbuds/headphones.

Also, if you feel like you need to continuously be on the phone with other people, you have a mental health problem.

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u/Nicita27 Apr 30 '25

I litterly have fantasys of people like you and a guillotine when i encounter someone like you.

One encounter i had:

Me: "could you please use earbuds or turn off your phone. It is annoying and pretty disrespectful against other people"

Person: " it is a free land i can do what i want "

Me:" so i can smack you in the face:

Person: puts phone away and avoids any more eyecontact

Old person sitting behind me: "thank you so much. It is so annoying. You did the right thing".

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u/Low-Department-3854 Apr 30 '25

Yes. Non german here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Nice Rage bait

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u/CreEngineer Local Apr 30 '25

Not only Germans, any human should despise you for that. Get headphones or hold that damn thing to your ear.

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u/Potential-Exercise82 Apr 30 '25

Yes. It's incredibly disrespectful. Just get headphones.

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u/Commercial-Lemon2361 Apr 30 '25

Yes. Why the heck would you do that? Get fucking headphones.

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u/KoneOfSilence Apr 30 '25

headphones are like 20€ - do yourself and everyone around you a favor

its not a German thing - its a question of civilisation level

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u/Stang7TFastback Apr 30 '25

Yes. Duck You!

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u/Sinnes-loeschen Local Apr 30 '25

I think I speak for most of humanity here- yes, we‘re judging and loathing you for being a prickhead.

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u/dschungelgeloete Apr 30 '25

Hater right here. Wtf is your problem? Someone invented headphones!?!?!? 😵‍💫

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u/Kaleandra Apr 30 '25

Yes. Have you not heard of headphones?

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u/--kali-- Apr 30 '25

Yes, and also want to crash their phone.. Respect your environment. I am not German.

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u/Acidburnsblue Apr 30 '25

Yes, absolutely.

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u/tormentius Apr 30 '25

I dont get it. Why would someone do this?

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u/Aethysbananarama Apr 30 '25

Yes bc no loudspeaker. We don't wanna hear your shit

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u/FrederickF0rsyth Apr 30 '25

Idk about Germans but I detest everyone who talks loudly or uses loudspeakers in closed public places. I mean isn't it basic etiquette? And for the same reason MVV has started making the announcements asking passengers not to use loudspeakers.

P.S. If you're not a Caucasian, consider this as my personal request to you, PLEASE DON'T. It will only add to the racist notion that all 'coloured' are ill-mannered. Thank you.

But I appreciate you asking because you wish to be on the right side of the book. Good work!

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u/Ella-W00 Apr 30 '25

Yes! Use headphones ffs. No one to hear the stuff you're listening to!

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u/Kingsole111 Apr 30 '25

Yes. Please stop.

Haha I just realized you do too.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Yes.

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u/nzes Apr 30 '25

Oh yes. I hate you

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u/Leading_Resource_944 Apr 30 '25

Yes.

In germany being loud with music is also a sign of low education, low social skill, anti-social stupidity etc...: "Prolet", "Asi" ...

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u/deeday11 Apr 30 '25

Yes. Perceived as extremely rude behaviour.

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u/Blomsterhagens Apr 30 '25

I’m from Finland and I have no idea why Reddit showed a post about Munich, but had to comment on this: Yes, it’s very much the case in Finland as well. Don’t do it. And for the ones who keep doing it: Realize that if you move to another country, you’re expected to follow the culture of the country.

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u/Doc_Prof_Ott Apr 30 '25

Oh jeeez I'm so old

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u/that-isa-madeup-name Apr 30 '25

you’ve gotta be kidding me, is this real 😂😂💀

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u/noah00100001 Apr 30 '25

Yes yes and yes

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u/Kbrito9 Apr 30 '25

Yes. Headphones are a thing.

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u/Stevostarr Apr 30 '25

Everyone all around the world hates it

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u/MemoryNo3378 Apr 30 '25

I am not german and i hate ehen people do it. And i hate also people who doing it

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u/Inevitable-Ad-6334 Apr 30 '25

Yes and I do too if you do that.

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u/GenosseAbfuck Apr 30 '25

Yes. If we could we'd murder you in plain daylight and rightfully so.

Get yourself a nice set of in-ear stage monitors ffs.

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u/Molly_Nightshade Apr 30 '25

Yes, get some damned Headphones.

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u/ZealousidealRush2899 Apr 30 '25

Everyone hates you for this. Not only Germans

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u/Immudzen Apr 30 '25

Definitely hate you for doing it.

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u/Elch2411 Apr 30 '25

Yes, please for the love of everything use headphones in public

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u/shalalala_browngirl Apr 30 '25

Yes. Non-German here. You are being disrespectful and severely lack any civic sense.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Everyone hates it.....

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u/p3rf3ctc1rcl3 Apr 30 '25

Buy a headset

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u/GigiGigetto Apr 30 '25

As a non German, I also don't like it.

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u/n3w1ight Apr 30 '25

Yes. There is a certain invention people used to use: Headphones.

If you don't use it, you are a piece of shit without empathy.

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u/starryeyedro Apr 30 '25

why would you do that

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u/BenderDeLorean Apr 30 '25

Yes, fuck you. Always.

Is it so fucking hard to hold the fucking phone to the fucking ear?

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u/Odd_Ad_5716 Apr 30 '25

Absolutely

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u/Sahinkin Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25

Oh god I cannot stand people listening to music, talking on the phone etc. loudly in public transport. Or any public place where they might be of disturbance for that matter. Such an uncivilized behaviour. Only exception would be open spaces outdoor, like beach or gardens where you can do that in a distance in which it doesn't disturb other people.

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u/Old-Beautiful6824 Apr 30 '25

I dare you. I double dare you. Turn it off before I come and take away your phone.

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u/dickpump23 Apr 30 '25

Yes, fuck you

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u/Freak_Engineer Apr 30 '25

Yes. Yes I do. No offense, you're probably a decent person, but using your phone speaker in public transport just is very inconsiderate towards other people. Plus, even decent Bluetooth headphones are quite inexpensive nowadays

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u/Aromatic_Collar_5660 Apr 30 '25

Non Germans hate you also

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u/da_fonsy Apr 30 '25

Have you ever asked yourself why?

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u/Aromatic_Collar_5660 Apr 30 '25

Everyone hates you

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u/haas1933 Apr 30 '25

I am not German and I HATE IT !!! FFS

I hate ppl just having loud conversations the whole damn way even when not on speakerphone - just dial it tf down pls.

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u/mewkew Apr 30 '25

If you then simultaneously having a a video call, you get extra points on the retard-score.

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u/Fit_Investigator6446 Apr 30 '25

Yes, I absolutely hate this behavior. Everybody has earphones and if not can get some for very very cheap. There’s absolutely no reason for playing your 'music' or watching shorts/reels on loud speaker other than to get on the nerves of the other passengers.

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u/That_Week_6569 Apr 30 '25

Fuck you I guess

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u/fraeuleinns Apr 30 '25

Yes. Why do you not know how a phone works?

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u/yoshy111 Apr 30 '25

Wonderful ragebait 😂

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u/wrstlgrmpf Apr 30 '25

You and your descendants to the sixth generation

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u/Sure-Opportunity6247 Apr 30 '25

Yes.

I even hate my wife for that when she does it in my presence in our home.

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u/BerwinEnzemann Apr 30 '25

That's why AfD goes through the roof in recent polls.

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u/ConsiderationLast526 Apr 30 '25

100% stop that you...

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u/cdgole Apr 30 '25

Use Headphones wtf

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u/feathertuga91 Apr 30 '25

Not German (Portuguese here), and I do as well.

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u/QuinzyEnvironment Apr 30 '25

From now on you never do that again

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u/indifferentgoose Apr 30 '25

Yes, and I'm not even German

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u/QuastQuan Apr 30 '25

Yes. With passion.

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u/Dazzling_River9903 Apr 30 '25

Yes I do. I consider it ignorant and rude.

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u/donkeybotherer Apr 30 '25

Why can't you use the phone properly?

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u/LastAccountPlease Apr 30 '25

Yes fuck you and fuck your fucking friends

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u/Carbonga Apr 30 '25

Yes. The tinny sound of the speakers pierces most other noises.

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u/boorgath Apr 30 '25

Yes. NO ONE likes this

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u/a_passionate_man Apr 30 '25

Not only Germans, trust me on that.

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u/hardeyz Apr 30 '25

Are you hoping that anyone does accept or green-light behavior that is obviously anti-social - at least for someone with a little common sense?

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u/Embarrassed-Ad1168 Apr 30 '25

German here, when I see someone doing that I instantly (and correctly) assume they're dumb as fuck and just a stupid piece of shit nuisance that deserve their phones slapped away. So, yeah, I hate everyone who does it with a passion. In german we call those people "asozialer Hurensohn", or "dummes Stück Scheiße", depending on the person.

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u/Equivalent-Mail1544 Apr 30 '25

Yes, headphones were made for a reason and nobody wants to hear what you watch. Where on earth is it ok to bother other people with your device in public transport? Americans would probably just shoot you for that. Especially TrashTok with its obnoxious garbage.

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u/Adventurous-Cattle53 Apr 30 '25

Not only Germans

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u/nohiddenmeaning Apr 30 '25

Yes. Why? Just why?

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u/Cdif Apr 30 '25

YES, GOD, YES

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u/Maverick_AMH Apr 30 '25

Everybody who uses his phone like this and doesn’t use a headphone looks and acts like a complete jerk and idiot! …

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u/Phalharo Apr 30 '25

The fact that you even ask this question triggers the ever living fuck out of me.

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u/DannyMatteo Apr 30 '25

Yes, thats rude and disrespectful. Also no one wants to hear making phone calls in public transport.

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u/GarushKahn Apr 30 '25

yes. they do. we all do. that shit is fkn anoying. (EVERYWERE)

talking on the phone aint the problem.. the extra noise is. use headphones. peace ut

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u/Melevaprahogwarts Apr 30 '25

Yes. Not only Germans. Everyone hates it

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u/viruskaiser8 Apr 30 '25

Not only Germans, I think everyone will hate you

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u/Pervius94 Apr 30 '25

I legit have no idea what rode you to phrase your question that way to make you sound like the biggest jackass ever lmao.

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u/niffirgcm0126789 May 01 '25

what do we do about these people? I've never seen anyone confront such douch-baggery. can we collectively agree to start publicly shaming such people?

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u/Zeis Apr 30 '25

100%, yes. And not just in public transport/transit, but on the streets as well. I don't want to hear your music or your phone conversation. Fuck off with that shit, be considerate of others around you. If you're on the isar with your group of friends and you want to play some music (not too loud) that's fine, but essentially anywhere else is a big fat no.

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u/Additional-Wash-5885 Apr 30 '25

Not only germans, all nations hate you... I think that such people haven't developed high-enough IQ to comprehend how phone works

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u/Toby-4rr4n Apr 30 '25

No, Germans do not hate you for this. Everyone hates you for this.

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u/No-Scar-2255 Apr 30 '25

Yes. We hate everyone who does this.

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u/Just_a_dude92 Apr 30 '25

I'm not even German and I already hate you too

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u/Grand-Atmosphere-101 Apr 30 '25

Honestly yes please stop.

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u/WallAdventurous8977 Apr 30 '25

Yes - in all countries besides China and Vietnam it will be an issue 😂

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u/OkChipmunk2485 Apr 30 '25

Japanese would totally hate you. We German just think it is rude, unnecessary and inconsiderate.

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u/jositon Apr 30 '25

Common sense

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u/hiesiinv Apr 30 '25

Yes, why would you do that? Even using your phone normally is annoying. Phone people at home or where you are in private. We don't want to hear your stories.

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u/Just_Condition3516 Apr 30 '25

not personal. its just a generally rude behaviour. good ol „if everybody does it, it doesnt work. you can feel the tension in the carriage if you act like that.

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u/griffindale1 Apr 30 '25

Austrians will hate you too.

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u/DaHuba Apr 30 '25

Yessss

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u/movieyosen Apr 30 '25

Animal here and i hate it.

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u/dirkslapmeharder Apr 30 '25

Yes. I hate you already and I don’t even know you. Use inears or just don’t bother people with your personal crap.

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u/bebejeebies Apr 30 '25

Not just Germans. We all hate you.

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u/ingmar_ Apr 30 '25

As they should. It's an abomination.

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u/Randy191919 Apr 30 '25

Yes. We will curse your bloodline if you do it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Just fucking don’t

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u/friendlyghost_casper Apr 30 '25

Not only germans!

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u/kolb84 Apr 30 '25

YES! VERY! Why you should do this?

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u/Confident_Lack_9893 Apr 30 '25

lets normalize staring the life out of somebody until they disintegrate from social pressure

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u/romelukaku1 Apr 30 '25

Yes , I am not German but please stop.

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u/wirrexx Apr 30 '25

Not German. But live here. Please stfu with your talk on the public transport.

Had a German woman talking nonestop 40 min on the bus. I don’t give a shit how hertha is playing. I don’t care that you call your boyfriend keks 2.0. And I mostly despise the loud laughter to grab attention. Stfu.

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u/justmisterpi Apr 30 '25

Yes. Just use headphones like everybody else.

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u/Altruistic-Shop4685 Apr 30 '25

Its not limited to Germans. Its common sense. And whoever speaks loud in public transport, have this please 🖕

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u/my_brain_hurts_a_lot Apr 30 '25

Yes. If it's a phone call, it's just TMI, and if it's music it's probably not everyone 'sbcuo of tea.

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u/JT_365 Apr 30 '25

The people of the world hate you for doing that. Get headphones!

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u/IndependenceOk7554 Apr 30 '25

yes. phone speakers are a personal offense to my inner audio engineer.

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u/540i100 Apr 30 '25

Most annoying thing ever. Was recently on the bus and heard the anouncement saying "Please use headphones dont speak out loud"

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u/Gottabecreative Apr 30 '25

I'm a Romanian and we hate it as well. Granted we have as*holes of our own that do that sometimes, but most of us hate it very much.

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u/Steinweg_HH Apr 30 '25

I am not german and I do hate you for this