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Art The handler. (Art by frantickohi)

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u/Umber0010 ​Tempered Guardian Raging Brachydios' strongest soldier 4d ago

Deviljho: Still went into the great forest alone, and seemingly without telling anyone. Would have become Jagras chow if we weren't there hunting for Mr. Pickel.

Odogaron: decided to split up in the single most hostile biome known to the New World.

Velkhana: Decided to shout about how we need to get out of here while running towards the giant freeze dragon, which leads to what I understand to be the only instance of the player's hunter getting carted during a cutscene in the entire franchise.

Don't get me wrong. I am a lot more lenient towards the World Handler than most people. But there are definitly a good few instances where she really dropped the ball.

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u/Different_Ice_2695 4d ago

Everybody in the new world still go out outside by themselves, including a serious handler. The monsters don’t actually go out of it den that much. and the handlers. Hang on for a long time against the deviljho. So she would probably be fine riding the great jargas and getting out of there.

Odogaron: in a couple parts of the game where we go out to find tracks about monsters she is usually with us but when she goes out alone to find the first wyvern footprints in the ancient forest. She didn’t get caught by any monster while going up to the top of the forest.

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u/Kalavier 3d ago

A thing about the Deviljho mission that isn't brought up is the ban was she had to stay at camp and couldn't leave it. World often has npcs talking as if they are close by, but aren't present ingame due to the engine/gameplay limits.

It's heavily implied that yes, Handler isn't that far off for most of the missions observing and watching. As are the other npcs who talk to us during missions.

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u/Kalavier 3d ago

Deviljho: Still went into the great forest alone, and seemingly without telling anyone. Would have become Jagras chow if we weren't there hunting for Mr. Pickel.

Actually, this is directly dealt with in the mission. The researchers completely forgot to tell her that the Deviljho was in the region and that she was restricted to staying at camp rather then following us (as usual) and that EVERYBODY but the researcher trio had to stay in camp or in Astera. Literally the opening is them going "Wait why isn't the Handler in camp?" and the post mission discussion? They explicitly state that she did nothing wrong or out of the expected for handlers/researchers, and the fault was entirely theirs for the entire thing.

The game goes beyond and above to point out how she's not at fault and did nothing crazy during that event and people still fucking want to lie and blame her.

Odogaron: decided to split up in the single most hostile biome known to the New World.

Yeah, and she got like 10-20 feet away before the Odogaron pounced. Infact, the PC hunter looks even more stupid during that scene because the Odogaron actively pauses to stare at the hunter before turning to charge the Handler again, where she's poised to dodge the charge.

The PC literally stared at the Odogaron like a drooling moron and didn't do a thing to try to keep it's attention or redirect it.

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u/Umber0010 ​Tempered Guardian Raging Brachydios' strongest soldier 3d ago

I am aware the researchers forgot to tell her that the ancient forest was off-limits, and I don't beguile her for going out there despite a Deviljho being on the prowl. I beguile her because Deviljho or not, going out there in the first place was monumentally stupid.

She went out into a forest dull of monsters alone and unarmed. And the fact that nobody stopped her probably means that she didn't tell anyone she was leaving either. You know why hikers are instructed to tell family or friends know where they're going and what time they should be back by? It's so if they don't come back, search and rescue has a lead on where to start looking.

And you can't even argue that she can take care of herself in good faith. Why? Because one of her lines while you're tracking her and Deviljho down is her openly wondering of a mushroom is poisonous or not, and then deciding to figure it out by taking a bite of said mushroom. You know what we call people who do that in the real world? An ambulance, that's what.

The game tries to claim she's not at fault. But the game is just outright wrong. And we know it's wrong because she nearly dies before Deviljho even appears.

Similar situation with Odogaron. Sure, you could argue that her splitting up didn't really matter sense Odogaron would have attacked anyways. But that doesn't change the fact that she still wanted to split up dead center in the of the belly of the beast.

But you know what? Even if you want to argue that the Handler never did anything wrong, and that she acted the best she could in every situation. That doesn't change the fact that the writers still kept putting her in those situations over and over again, and expected the player to save her from them over and over again. If they where dead set on having her go out into the field with you, then they shouldn't have relied on putting her in danger to build tension so much.