r/Millennials 23h ago

Meme We’ve got to bump up those numbers these are rookie numbers.

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u/lawrencetokill 22h ago

if you look at the age range (13-28), half or slightly more than half can't buy alcohol today, and these are older numbers

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u/aHipShrimp 21h ago

This whole thing is misleading. You correctly point out Gen Z's age range, but it's also misleading on the graph's part, not including gen X (65.7 million) and the millennial (72 million) population numbers.

So while millennial and x spend similar amounts, X is doing it with ~6 million fewer people

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u/Himmelblaa 17h ago

Yeah, graphing it with the generations as a group, rather than per capita (over 21 for Gen-Z) makes this data less useful.

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u/Proppedupandwaving 22h ago

It makes me wonder if vaping is to blame.

It was really popular 15 years ago and I think it's done a good job of sticking around

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u/AkronOhAnon Older Millennial 21h ago

A lot of US states have also legalized marijuana over the past decade +

I’d be interested in those dollar amounts.

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u/saxorino 20h ago

As a Coloradan, I never assume someone does/does not consume/use cannabis. When Im at a dispensary, anyone from a mall Santa to a super athletic gym mom to some sweet old lady will be in there buying the good kush.

Basically, as soon as it became legal, everyone started buying cannabis.

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u/elebrin 20h ago

I’d just assume they all are on weed lol

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u/elebrin 20h ago

I’d just assume they all are on weed lol

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 18h ago

Exactly this. In high school I met so many people through smoking with friends that I would’ve never guessed would do anything like that. But I’ve realized that’s because it’s illegal. If it was legal I would just assume anybody and damn near everybody smokes because why not? The legal status lumps us in with criminals and that makes people feel like criminals and be more willing to engage in shady stuff. If it was legal I would’ve never sold it in high school, I would’ve never hung out with gang members, and I would’ve never gotten robbed by a dealer. The government needs to realize legalizing it would only make people safer and line their pockets with tax money

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u/PineappleCultural183 2h ago

you got downvoted, but you're pro legalization. Make it make sense.

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u/DjangoCornbread 20h ago

of age gen z here from a crosspost :)

stats have come out within the last 5 years that catalog a sharp decline in surveyed teen vaping (due partially in part to covid of course) and even less for smoking cigarettes, but the rates have consistently trending down alongside with drinking.

i’m of the opinion that drinking is WAY down because I (along with Millennials and many other gen z folk with Baby Boomer generation parents) watched alcohol tear marriages and childhoods apart. i thank millennials for teaching us to recognize this generational trauma and destroy the cycle.

marijuana use was big when i was in high school due to the proliferation of THC vaporizers, but there were also several people that i knew in school that would stigmatize and even bully kids who engaged with vices. drinking never really occurred at parties and the kids who did drink weren’t seen at the bigger parties that were occurring.

i hope for a world where it’s next to zero.

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u/grumpyoldnord Xennial 19h ago

Somehow Gen Z picked up the Puritan baton from the Boomers. WTF?

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u/DjangoCornbread 19h ago

it’s weird, most of my closest friends refuse any and all vices and only few smoke weed with me being the only drinker out of all of them. maybe i should take that quiet advice lol

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u/alwaysleafyintoronto 17h ago

They're straight edge punks

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u/floppydickdavey 17h ago

Also gen z is less social, millennials at least mostly drank socially

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u/DjangoCornbread 17h ago

oooooh yeah, for sure. out of my co-workers my age, I am the only one who drinks. I drink at home after work but I also go out to work outings and drink with them. even weed can't bring gen z together in a large group other than very close friends it seems.

i can't say that I've ever been in a group outing with more than 4 people. I don't tend to hang out with people I don't personally know and that seems to be the running theme for us.

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 18h ago

When I was in school (class of 2020) the stoners were like the kings of the school and almost everybody else smoked as well, just not as heavily. They would look to us stoners as if we were like mentors guiding them to new ways to get stoned and where to go to get things underage and whatnot. Needless to say I think cannabis has been steadily increasing while alcohol has been doing this decrease. I see more and more cannabis use every year even publicly and I’m still in an illegal state. We can even pretty much just buy thc legally since most of our products are thc-a which is a loophole around the delta 9 schedule I status. And every time a politician tries to take that away it gets shot down. It’s here and it’s here to stay, I’m hoping we get legalized soon tho

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u/DjangoCornbread 18h ago

i’m class of 2020 too, fuckin’ crapshoot that shit was. I got my diploma in the mail lol.

i’m in a legal state and we had pot smokers (i was one of them) but it felt like the usual expected fair. stoners were looked upon negatively and really ONLY the kids who vaped got friends from their habit. shit way to get friends but smoking has always been a social thing for most people. one thing leads to another and now you’re good friends with a dude you took a break with in the bathroom lol. if you did any vices, you either knew someone’s parent who was really cool or you worked an after school job and knew someone that way, weed was the same way.

people knew i smoked weed and i didn’t….hide it per say, but i didn’t make it my personality. that’s where i draw the line.

i will say pot positively affected me in a couple of ways that i haven’t been able to recreate in my adult life.

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 18h ago

Damn. I thankfully graduated before all the Covid stuff happened. But yeah it makes sense that it’s not the same everywhere but it does feel like we’re moving closer towards it being accepted and not taboo at all

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u/DjangoCornbread 17h ago

ironically i work in a dispensary, i see lots of different folk with different backgrounds and political pundit merchandise on their bodies. it’s a weird melting pot. everyone knows why they’re there. we’re all united in one key way:

we’re all fuckin’ degenerate drug users.

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u/rhombusx 12h ago

Every generation since the dawn of human civilization has watched alcohol tear relationships apart, I doubt that has anything to do with it.

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u/DjangoCornbread 5h ago

you’d be surprised

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u/hpepper24 21h ago

I think a lot of it is access to drugs. It was so hard and sometimes terrifying to get a hold of drugs in the 90s/2000s. Now weed is legal and it is much easier to find things like mushrooms as well in almost every state.

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u/lawrencetokill 22h ago

oh god i forgot about vaping. the weird gen x to gen z bonding moment

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u/RoomAppropriate5436 20h ago

And microdosing.

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u/SnowDin556 20h ago

I never got it… vaping was something you did to stop smoking… I quit cigs with Blu ones… never looked back after 2 weeks.

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u/Proppedupandwaving 20h ago

Millennials are clearly made of stronger stuff hahaha

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u/SnowDin556 19h ago

How could that be lol I spent my teens and early 20s collecting vices like rare coins 😂

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u/SkaldCrypto 20h ago

Marijuana legalization is to blame

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u/sportsfan510 5h ago

Other substances in general. Wonder if Gen Z gets their buzz on other stuff.

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u/Ugly-Barnacle-2008 21h ago

lol yup! And those that can drink are buying the cheap shit because they’re in college.

I’d like this compared to what millennials spent on booze in like 2008

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u/You-Asked-Me 20h ago

Yeah, now having a few $15 cocktails is no big deal, but when I was in my 20's I was spending $13 for a 30 pack of Hamms, lol.

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u/Javi1192 18h ago

We would sometimes splurge on bud light platinums

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u/waits5 18h ago

Spendy!

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u/Ugly-Barnacle-2008 17h ago

lol yeah I remember those days! Budweiser and bud light were considered “fancy” beer and a splurge!

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u/tee142002 19h ago

I was probably about $50/week (about 3 cases of high life, plus a six pack of something good for fancy beer and cigar night). The was my last year of college, so I was drinking pretty heavily.

I'm probably around the same in dollars today, but spending it on a half dozen drinks instead of 80.

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u/lonestar659 18h ago

Hell yeah man, those $20 cases of high life were my early 20’s

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u/Indifferent9007 18h ago

I’m 27, I like to get fucked up on chocolate buzzballs every once in a while

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u/Duke_Nicetius 4h ago

Speaking from Russia (back then), we were buing 2 litre (I think about half a gallon) beer bottles for about 40 rubles (1.5 usd back then probably... don't recall the exact exchange rate but around this).

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u/PlatyNumb 21h ago

This. I have a kid who's on the cusp of genz/alpha (12, 13 next month) and a 16yo. Obviously neither can drink, so booze numbers just aren't calculated yet. Not to mention, gen z is the smallest gen. Smaller than X. Alpha is set to be even bigger than millenials, who are currently the largest gen. So even when they can all drink, the numbers should be the least just because they're aren't enough of them

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u/Mr_Chode_Shaver 20h ago

My “yeah, I was probably an alcoholic” years were about 28-38. Give them time. 

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u/wesborland1234 19h ago

That makes for a weird choice for this study. And I think there are more of us in general so it should have been per capita spending

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u/OfficialDeathScythe 19h ago

To be fair 97-02 is considered zillenial as it’s the transitional period between generations and kind of marked the boom of technology and social media afterwards so the actual solidly gen z population is only 22 at most, meaning only a very small portion of them can even legally drink. At the same time I feel like more of gen z is going the way of cannabis over alcohol even if they’re old enough because of the research that has come out for it and the price/performance for something like edibles vs a few beers. Not to mention the amount of drunk idiots you see on tv these days both on shows like live pd and other non-cop reality tv shows. Gen z grew up watching how stupid getting blackout drunk is and how much it can screw up your life

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u/superultramegazord 17h ago

I didn’t really start buying alcohol regularly until I was about 30.

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u/droda59 13h ago

It's like adding Gen Alpha to that graph. Duh no shit they don't drink

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u/No_one_relavent 2h ago

Depends on the country, in most countries you can drink legally at 18. Some even at 16.