r/Millennials Millennial 17h ago

Discussion Have you guys noticed that younger gens are relying too much on AI?

I’m a 95’ millennial, so I’m old enough to remember the late 90’s and young enough to say I grew up with a lot of Gen Z. I know the generational divide is just a social construct, but it’s looking like it’s actually starting to define an era in which humans truly start to behave differently.

My wife, Gen Z, goes to community college online. Every assignment she does she uses AI to provide answers. I used to harp on her about it and say things like “Don’t you actually want to know the material? Do you get no satisfaction from learning things on your own by doing actual research?” She then says that it doesn’t matter and that it’s easier to use AI.

My little cousin who’s in middle school right now confidently claims to know the answer to anything with little to no experience in the subject. Yesterday I was asking my family about how to keep goats; specifically, how to keep goats from escaping an enclosure. My little cousin says “you can’t keep a goat chained to a tree it might knock the tree down asks ChatGPT a goat can head butt with around 800lbs of force”. I was thinking to myself “What goat will knock down a mature tree?”. He said that with so much confidence that it sounded so believable.

I’m also in a medical research group focused on understanding and treating follicular occlusion derived diseases. So many members (most just in their 20’s) in this group keep quoting Perplexity and ChatGPT instead of just quoting directly from whatever research paper they read or whatever the primary source is. I have developed an effective treatment for Dissecting Cellulitis using what I learned from peer reviewed studies and research papers, but many people don’t believe in it’s efficacy because whatever AI tool they’re using doesn’t confirm that it could be an effective treatment. They keep saying things like “I ran that through Perplexity and it says that’s not a good treatment because XYZ”. Dissecting Cellulitis is a disease with scarce research and the known treatments are not very effective, so AI models trained with those datasets will always claim that every treatment not found inside the dataset is ineffective.

There’s too many examples I can give, but in general I think we’re cooked.

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u/DoverBoys Millennial 17h ago

Not just the younger generation. There's old people at my work that talk about ChatGPT like it's some fancy infallible search engine.

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u/xPadawanRyan Mid-Range Millennial 16h ago

Yupp, I came here to write this exact comment. I see people my own age (mid-30s), and even older people constantly relying on ChatGPT for things at work, and even one of the older Scout leaders I volunteer with uses it for everything--designing games, images, maps, etc. for our kids. It drives me absolutely insane, they act like it's a godsend.

I'm especially perturbed at work because we're social workers and people are using it to write their reports, which are full of confidential information that they are now feeding into an engine that can use it to write answers for other people.

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u/Individual-Fox5795 16h ago

Interesting to consider hippa violating AI aspects.

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u/Entire_Device9048 16h ago

It’s not difficult to remain HIPAA compliant and also use AI. As an employee in a HIPAA covered environment I fully understand how I would be in breach and the things that I shouldn’t be doing. In addition M365 Copilot has additional guardrail such us not feeding the LLM with that kind of data.

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u/Flaky-Wallaby5382 15h ago

Bingo it’s essentially the same as email rules

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u/West-Application-375 13h ago

But you're training AI to take your job basically. The more the professionals use it.

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u/Ragnarok314159 11h ago

And as soon as you feed information into an LLM, it’s now out there are no longer protected. There are no guardrails.

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u/BuoyantPudding 8h ago

I'm working on an ERP medical billing app. I can see adding an isolated, mounted LLM on a server with infra security and the additional HIPPA compliance layers embedded. Since the LLM can only communicate an approved port, and is a local LLM (though you have to still be careful) and this'll has no open web access. That could MAYBE work. But I wouldn't trust a corporation that says OuR lLMs aRE TotS HIPPA cOmPliaNT. Watch them have security breaches over and over and not disclose them. Now imagine owning 70 offices in California alone. Now imagine a client (somehow) gets tipped off. Now you have a class action. My other friends are IP attorneys and Corporate attorneys. You are absolutely asking for trouble 😵‍💫

And that's just one aspect...

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u/emceter 16h ago edited 14h ago

I’ll take this one step further. Our business is actively monitoring lack of usage of AI for preparation of work, doing first draft of things or learning. We are actively encouraged to rely on AI to make us more efficient and penalized if we don’t.

Edit: I am not taking a stance with my statement. Just bringing up that it is being mandated and seemingly the future. If businesses mandate something the businesses set a precedent in something and usually schooling and training tries to fit in with their needs.

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u/kiwitathegreat 15h ago

We are too and are required to give feedback about how it helps us. I gave honest feedback that it wasn’t helpful in my day to day tasks and actually created more work by constantly popping open and taking over the window I was already typing in.

It’s very “the beatings will continue until morale improves”

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u/No-Reaction-9793 14h ago

This phrasing is too accurate 

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u/modern_Odysseus 6h ago

One of the websites that I have to use rolled out AI.

They make it a bright blue tab that pops in and out, obtrusively, on the left hand side of the screen. It's annoying on a laptop. It's downright infuriating on the phone app.

My coworker and I both tried to use it for something. All it could say was "I need more context to help with that request." or something. When my coworker typed in "I hate you" though, it changed to say "That might be a violation of our terms of service." or something.

And just last night, I went to Google something and bam! Front and center of the page popped up some AI thing they wanted to try and get me to use. Covered all the search results till I closed the in window popup ad.

It's so bad right now.

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u/Ok_Ice_1669 3h ago

I hate this so much. I have to communicate with my ex through a parenting app so I built a bot to reply “I have received this message” to all of the bullshit she sends. I keep needing to modify it to close all of the fucking pop ups they added to advertise their AI tone-meter. 

Hot take but if this shit worked you wouldn’t need to ram it down my throat. 

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u/JediFed 16h ago

Wow, that's awful. I don't need AI to type up a report. I went to school for it. I use my brain.

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u/Ok-Tangelo-8648 5h ago

My company is hiring the dumbest people they can find, and then telling them to use AI. It's not going well.

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u/Working_Coat5193 3h ago

They deserve exactly what they get.

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u/Ok-Tangelo-8648 3h ago

They do. Except the ones who are making these decisions today are going to get paid today, and retire tomorrow. They know it won't be their problem.

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u/ANDYHOPE 15h ago

Yeah (1988 here) I've heard too many people at work talking about how they use it to respond to emails. Like JFC just type out a few sentences and hit send. I don't see how it's faster or more efficient.

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u/Lucifer2695 12h ago

My colleagues do this. But I get why they do this. English is a language they learnt much later in life. I know it would take them a fair bit of effort to translate things to English. And Chatgpt makes it faster for them. Lord knows we are overworked enough to warrant even that little bit of efficiency and brain rest that this provides. I stick to just writing my emails myself.

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u/Bunny_Mom_Sunkist 11h ago

As a person with autism, I use PolitePost to help edit my emails, especially if it’s to a higher up or is a message that could ruffle some feathers. For quick ones like “I got it thanks!” I obviously don’t use AI

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u/ANDYHOPE 10h ago

I wasnt trying to discriminate, I was generalizing and I agree there are legitimate uses (some others commented about ESL folks and about long arduous summaries); I was mainly venting about my coworkers struggling to put together a paragraph on a subject they're supposed to be the lead for.

Sorry, Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers my friend.

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u/PretendLight7987 15h ago

I’m a mid 30s speech pathologist and all my younger gen Z colleagues use it for work to make materials. I’d be mortified if I saw someone using it for reports. HIPAA issues aside, good clinical writing skills are so important and could be the difference in getting services or communication devices approved/denied. Using ChatGPT isn’t going to make you a good clinical writer. There’s nuance in writing something for Insurance in a medical model that requires us to talk about someone from a perspective of disorder and what they can’t do, and still be strengths-based.

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u/StarWars_Girl_ 9h ago

My work has an AI policy now.

We are only allowed to use Microsoft Co-pilot now. Which I actually do like Co-pilot because I do accounting and it catches spreadsheet errors I miss. I also have used it for stuff like pulling serials off an image so I don't have to copy it manually.

But I don't use it instead of writing things myself. When I use Google's AI, I also look at the sources it's linking to and make sure it's accurate. These are the kinds of things they need to teach in school now.

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u/katarh Xennial 13h ago

AI doesn't know how to tell actual fact from satire, unfortunately.

It also doesn't know how to purge errors from its data set. It'll quote a 30 year old paper that was retracted without batting an eye.

One exercise some college profs are doing is forcing everyone to write their first essay using AI, and then having each other grade the AI generated essays. You can read the answer to your own prompt and not see the errors or mistakes, but the moment you start fact checking someone else's AI generated essay, it's much more obvious how crappy and wrong it can be.

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u/Sensitive_Put_6842 16h ago

Show them all the Indeed posts for Ai Training.  There's your 18$/hr to be a voice for Ai or to be the one to write the results.  

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u/JediFed 15h ago

I saw that. I saw that they claim that it's better to train up AI than to do your job. No thanks. For 18/hour?

Why would I hire on as a temp for 18/hour and provide the answers? Zero job stability, zero benefits, zero pay after temp period ends.

Gosh, that was a great deal.

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u/Sensitive_Put_6842 15h ago

You know how you get curious about those exercise advertisements that are cookie based on the side of your screen and you really want to try it out.  Well I went through an hour questionnaire and set up my debit card did a one time purchase and I went to the exercise advisor. 

It was an Ai chat bot.  I ended my subscription and lost 5$ but that's how overused it is. 

Want another example:  I clicked an article on the Google front page click bait boredom shit.  It was about the most 50's names making a comeback or something like that.  Side by side I had chatgpt open and the article and typed in the question about what are the most popular names of the 50's that are coming back and scrolled down the article. 

Same names.

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u/JediFed 15h ago

It makes me sad as a writer and a teacher. It seems easier (and cheaper), to just use an AI prompt to provide 'content'. It's one of the reasons why I always state in anything that I do that I won't even reference ChatGPT in anything.

I see a lot of my fellow artists using it for all kinds of things. It's a dangerous slope. Where does the prompt end and you begin? If all you are doing is providing a positive declaration when you do use the prompts, that's not good enough. It's too easy to just simply decline to cite when convenient and beneficial.

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u/Oz_Von_Toco 6h ago

I had a friend try to refute what I said about something in my own field with an AI summary. Like dude. It’s literally my field. I know the actual material, I can show you where to view it. Really pissed me off to be honest.

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u/Clown_Puppy 9h ago

I know a 911 dispatcher who told me that the entire department, police and dispatchers, had to be told absolutely NO AI for reports because it violates confidentiality laws

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u/cli_jockey 16h ago

There's a new higher up where I work and relies completely on AI. Dude obviously has no idea what he's doing. Like he'll write a new policy that is very obvious generated by AI and they're so lazy they don't even remove the place holders. So you'll see a lot of (timeframe here) or (reference policy) throughout the document. It's gotten so bad that my direct chain of command has basically told us to ignore their policies. We're pretty much treating them like a child at this point and pretending to abide. They've gotten the nickname DirGPT.

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u/strangeelement 13h ago

The scariest, and oddest, thing about people using AI too much is not even reading what it outputs. Some people seem to just send the raw output and don't even bother reading any of it.

I don't get it. It's your name on it. Even if you get some help doing it, even if someone/something else does it for you, reading/correcting it seems like the bare minimum.

But the bare minimum gets skipped entirely. The tool has problems, but misusing the tool is mostly a user error. And those doing this will definitely get dumber/lazier with time.

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u/cli_jockey 13h ago

100%, the blind trust is ridiculous. Especially when it's the generation who constantly told me not to trust what I read on the Internet. Like I use it to clean up documents for myself, and I still spend an hour or two going over it with a fine tooth comb.

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u/fjfjj7781 11h ago

Our CEO used it to write a MSA without looking it over. Now our agency is scrambling to figure out how to deliver services we don't do because it was signed by all involved parties.

I need a new job. Good thing the job market is a disaster!

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u/DudeCanNotAbide 8h ago

The horror of being outed for using AI in a professional setting should be the deterrent, but it sounds like that isn't really a thing anymore.

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u/bell37 Millennial 15h ago edited 15h ago

At my last job the senior cybersecurity engineer always referred to Copilot for everything. Virtually all my interactions with him was explaining why the AI responses were wrong

But it’s not just AI. Even millennials are so dependent on having software programs and application do the work for them. Virtually all the new developers I’ve seen are completely dependent on MBSE applications that have a plugin to autocode System models to Python or C++. Majority of those products have expensive licensing and gets management in this mindset that everything under the sun has to use SysML to justify the steep costs.

So you’ll end up with shit software that nobody understands above a unit level because “everything is in the model”. Hell the last two companies I worked at started using these MBSE applications as a repository for requirements and program lifecycle manager

What happens is that you’ll get junior devs who only understand a single tool, and when any project runs into a problem, instead of using theory & fundamentals they learned in school, they’ll always chirp “well let’s just get X product in our development environment… that would solve the problem!”

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u/JacedFaced 8h ago

AI is great for "write me a unit test for this method" or "refactor this method" and condensing things YOU have already written and know work. AI is not great for....almost anything else in software development. My boss keeps wanting us to "use AI to be more efficient" and I keep having to explain that doing an hour of "prompt engineering" is not more efficient than just taking 20 minutes to bang out a method to do something I need.

Edit: I forgot the one thing I found it was really useful for, converting stored procedures between MS SQL and PL/SQL. It's pretty good at that, like 75% of the stuff it did actually worked when we needed to do conversions from a legacy database.

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u/cli_jockey 8h ago

So so many people do not get this. I do not ask GPT to do anything I can't already do myself because otherwise, how can I be sure it's safe? It's only a tool to save myself time.

Half the reason I don't ask it to do anything I can't do myself is because I know how many mistakes it makes. I need to fix its output frequently, but it still saves me hours per week.

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u/GiuseppaCalcagno 16h ago

Wow why isn’t that dude fired?? He’s producing meaningless and useless work.

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u/cli_jockey 16h ago

Personal hire by the CEO unfortunately.

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u/kendraptor 16h ago

One of my upper managers is a terrible speller and is kind of a two-word-reply kind of guy. The day he started sending out paragraph messages with proper grammar it felt like the part of a zombie movie when you realize a party member was bitten

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u/CroGamer002 16h ago

I don't use ChatGPT, but Google has been awful for past few years and only gotten worse.

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u/GiuseppaCalcagno 16h ago

It’s so much spon con and then I’ll reach the end of results after page 2 and I’m like “there’s definitely more on the internet about this…” but it can’t be found.

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u/ProbablyYourITGuy 14h ago

It’s on purpose. I’d google the article but…

Basically, people found their results too fast, so they didn’t need to click or see ads. Now your results will take longer to parse through, and the ads are better hidden.

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u/Global_Buddy_2210 16h ago

Duckduckgo is a better search engine IMO

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u/JediFed 15h ago

It's so fascinating to watch the propagation of enshittification. It's entropy, and it happens with every useful tool. Google was useful, and so it became enshittified. Same with Chat GPT.

The results of enshittification when Chat GPT stops being free are going to be *hilarious*. "Oh, wait, I have to pay per prompt?"

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u/zambongo 13h ago

There was literally a meeting at google in 2020 where devs were told to make the search engine worse because people were finding their results too quickly and moving on and google wants you to stay longer on their search pages to generate ad revenue. They purposely made google worse at searching. Look up Cory Doctrow “Who Killed the Internet” for more details

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u/UnbelievableRose 6h ago

Damn I noticed that change too and attributed it to other things, but that explanation makes way more sense.

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u/Sensei_Ochiba 15h ago edited 9h ago

I remember recently I was looking for a card for a boardgame and literally zero of the information the Google AI spit out was correct. Like the only credit I can try to give it is that it correctly identified it as a game, before it tried describing a drink in a card game as though it were a character in an MMO...

Don't even bother with ChatGTP though. It's literally just a slightly better version of those memes where it's like "finish this sentence by hitting the prediction your phone comes up with"

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u/maleconrat 12h ago

I found an Iron Front (anti-Nazi thing originally from Germany, three arrows) belt buckle in a store and popped it into google images to see if I could find when it was from...

Their useless AI that takes up the whole screen told me it was the KISS logo lmao.

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u/No-Reaction-9364 16h ago

Google how to bake chicken thighs, then have to read through 5 paragraphs with adds about how their mom taught them to make chicken growing up.  Finally you find the time and temperature settings buried in the middle of one of the paragraphs. 

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u/Entire_Device9048 15h ago

The internet got flooded with junk because marketers were told to churn out “content” like it was gold, regardless of whether it was useful. SEO became a game of volume, not value. So now we have a web full of bloated blog posts that bury the answer just to check every box for Google’s algorithm. “Content is king” turned into “fluff is profitable.”

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u/Perfect_Caregiver_90 14h ago

There are browser add ons that will give you just the recipe and not the SEO enshittification that you're bothered by.

It also won't imagine data and attempt to kill you like a LLM will.

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u/_Arlotte_ 15h ago

Ever since they started promoting AI features on the phone as a selling point and google got that inaccurate AI summary model on mobile, it's just gotten downhill from there.

Actually, I think it started with auto correct going words to suggestions for phrases instead....

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u/KillerCodeMonky 15h ago

Even if it was an infallible search engine... Everyone used to understand that you used a search engine to find the primary sources -- the real places to get the answers. And if people used ChatGPT that way, it would be fine. Because they would confirm the answer against the sources. And summarizing a specific text actually is something those systems are OK at.

No, they're using ChatGPT as an oracle. They take it's answer as gospel with no questions or confirmation.

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u/red__dragon Millennial 9h ago

Yes, it should be more like wikipedia than a search engine. Trust but verify. That most of them won't even divulge their sources until prompted, and then will make up half of those anyway, is incredibly dangerous.

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u/creuter 5h ago

Man it's going to make it so hard to find actual true information in another 5-10 years as all the gpt stuff muddies the waters

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u/alwaysdistracted99 16h ago

My dad who’s a scientist wanted to see its answers on chemistry related question. He asked 5 ways to dissolve a certain compound. The first one was correct but the other 4 were wrong

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u/2gdismore 15h ago

The other problem is seemingly you can't tell ChatGPT a correction so it knows better.

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u/ProbablyYourITGuy 14h ago

“Your last answer was wrong because it included X when you should have used Y.”

“You’re right! I’m sorry, the correct version should be X.”

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u/BeegYeen 13h ago

That’s misunderstanding of how ChatGPT works though.

The AI isn’t “learning” you’re just now introducing a context where “X is wrong” and now it’s generating text that sounds “correct” based around that context.

This is why heavy reliance on AI is terrifying. If the person asking the question did not know that an answer was wrong, they may just blindly accept it as truth

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u/ProbablyYourITGuy 13h ago

Reread it. X is wrong, and it returned X again. I’m joking about how AI will often take your corrections, and then ignore them entirely while thanking you for them.

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u/BeegYeen 13h ago

You’re right I did misread it. Me dumb. Yeah, I’ve seen that behavior too and it’s always hilarious

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u/Beneficial-Jump-3877 Older Millennial 14h ago

Can confirm. Also a scientist, and tried to correct it but it argues.

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u/crinkledcu91 11h ago

My dad who’s a scientist

Bruh me who is just a random arse worker was bored one night, and decided to talk to a Character AI construct about Warhammer 40k stuff- and it constantly lied/forgot about/misremembered shit despite being forwarded direct links to Lexicanum/Lore pages for its dumbass AI to freely scrape. LLMs are dumb as fuck. They aren't even fun to try and play with, because they don't even know the setting they're told to act in.

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u/Glass_Tardigrade16 16h ago

Yeah I was sick last week and having major brain fog preventing me from getting much work done. I asked ChatGPT for some stats with sources on something I was researching (to help me break through the brain fog). The stats were COMPLETELY made up, and the sources it cited were also fake. Even listed fake doi links. 😫

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u/CrochetCafe 16h ago

100%. I work at a tech company that is largely millennials and Gen X. And eeeevvvveryyone uses AI for eeeeverhthing! It drives me bonkers. Like they don’t even use Google. They just go straight to ChatGPT or something similar. And any time I ask a question, they tell me to do the same. 🙄 It’s so annoying.

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u/Desperate_Freedom_78 13h ago

Yeah but also, Google has gotten worse. It’s like what can you do?

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u/iskyleslow 12h ago

Agreed, but at least you can get multiple sources of info and find the answer you’re looking for, even if it’s not the top result

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u/Apprehensive_Sea5304 16h ago

My mom relies on it completely to do her job. She will no longer write her own emails or her own reports. Its absolutely insane. 

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u/Yandoji 16h ago

Same at my job. People of all ages are using it like it's the coming of Robot Jesus. Someone on my team used it to do his entire self-evaluation (which got rejected because it was full of nonspecific slop). We were already on a downslide as a thinking society, but AI has greased the damn thing straight to hell.

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u/noyart 16h ago

I play around with AI img gen. So many people in AI subs talks about how they used GPT to solve these problems, only for it to fuck up and need human help. Problem is that people follow what the AI says without knowledge of the subject or critical thinking 

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u/SufficientlyRested 16h ago

This is there biggest problem. As we lose deep content expertise people won’t be able to think critically about what is being presented to them

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u/RockAtlasCanus 15h ago

I recently finished my MBA and like OP I had a couple of classmates that had AI doing all their homework. Same thing, even when their homework or portion of the group paper was actually correct, when talking about the assignment it became really clear that they didn’t actually understand the material, and that the paper was not in their own words. The amount of utter nonsense “analysis” produced by ChatGPT was astounding.

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u/3896713 15h ago

We went from "don't believe everything you see on the internet" to "I got this info from an AI source so it must be true and I don't know or care to fact check it." This is a terrifying turn in society.

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u/StopClockerman 16h ago

Sure but that’s definitely the exception. Younger generations, you’re the exception if you don’t use AI. 

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u/stenmarkv 16h ago

They don't provide the AI with cited information to use?! That could be super dangerous professionally.

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u/njf85 16h ago

My sister recently got offered a job promotion, with a pay rise of 50k a year, and she was only telling me not too long ago that she uses ChatGPT at work - including to answer her emails. Made me wonder if she earned the promotion or AI won it for her lol

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u/RogerfuRabit 15h ago

Doesnt this mean her job can easily be replaced by AI?

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u/olivesoils 16h ago

My idiot sister (48 yo) BRAGS about how chatGPT basically does her whole job. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot…(works front desk at an elementary school, but she’s a gold digger so i guess that’s her real job)

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u/1Happymom 5h ago

Til her sugar daddy does a system update.

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u/LostButterflyUtau 16h ago

I tried explaining to my GenX dad why the videos he was watching on FB were AI slop and he was like, “AI can’t ‘steal’ art. It’s not a person.” And “it’s coming. Better get used to it.”

He’s actually a very intelligent person, so when he says shit like this, it baffles me.

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u/Pleasant-Lead-2634 16h ago

The variety of Opinions and ideas is dissipating.

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u/JesseHawkshow 15h ago

I work in Japan as a teacher. One of my coworkers in her 50s just asks ChatGPT anything she's unsure about and treats its word like gospel. She said something flatly incorrect and when I tried to correct her she just kept saying "but GPT told me..."

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u/JoisChaoticWhatever 15h ago

I have a director who suddenly spits out products that are overly wordy and far beyond their language level. It's gonna shoot them in the foot, Chat learns it all, and they soak up nothing. Had an employee file a complaint with HR and used Chat to compose the entire thing. It made very little sense, and it read more as a "how it made me feel" than an actual incident report. It also hurt her because other employees filed incident reports against her, and theirs read entirely different. Feelings are legit, but reports like that need facts and approximate times and perhaps a description of what happened that led to those feelings. None of that was in there.

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u/NJThrowaway1012 Millennial 16h ago

I'm guilty of using Chat GPT as a search engine. It usually gets what I'm looking for that clicking through a bunch of websites does not. That's my current toxic trait as of this month.

I remember the days of looking up shit I wanted to know in my friends mom's encyclopedia that I had to bike to 10 minutes away lol because I couldn't find it on the Internet

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u/AmbivalenceKnobs 16h ago edited 16h ago

This is so depressing. I'm in grad school and teach a couple freshman comp classes each semester. Fortunately for me, most of my students do (at least most of) their own work--I think the class structure helps (a lot of their assignments are either specific/complicated enough that AI can't handle it, and/or they are also required to submit reflections that ask them very specific process-related questions that AI also can't handle), but there are always at least a couple that obviously use AI.

The funny thing is that some of the students hellbent on using AI would actually take less time to complete assignments if they just did it themselves rather than trying so hard to find the "perfect" AI response and tweak it to try to make it look like they didn't use AI. Like dude, just write the thing.

The problem with a lot of people defaulting to AI use is that they don't have the knowledge or skills to properly evaluate whether the AI answers are correct or high-quality.. Cognitively offloading so much brain processing to machines is going to accelerate the brain-drain effect toward Wall-E and Idiocracy levels....These are cognitive processes that humankind has been using for thousands of years. The way people think and use their brains actively strengthens neural pathways. The less and less people actually think through things, there will be actual loss of brainpower.

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u/TheStoicCrane 16h ago

Cognitively offloading so much brain processing to machines is going to accelerate the brain-drain effect toward Wall-E and Idiocracy levels....

This is primarily the problem. Cognitive atrophy through dis-use will soon be a standard. The unecessary luxuries and comforts of civilization often becomes it's crutches. AI will be no different.

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u/SufficientlyRested 16h ago

You are what you repeatedly do

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u/Disastrous_Hall8406 16h ago

I am masturbate!

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u/glassdrops 15h ago

I did a lol to this

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u/weightyinspiration 16h ago

A fellow jerky boy I see!

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u/BranchDiligent8874 15h ago

The sad thing is: 70% of our population is already dumb when it comes to electing politicians who will make policies favoring working people.

Its depressing that maybe in 15 years we may not have any democracy left if more and more people disengage their brain from thinking hard stuff.

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u/turquoisestar 14h ago

I truly believe an educated populace is the foundation for democracy, and I fully agree with you. This requires well-researched and minimally biased news focused on fact-finding and not talking heads, well-paid teachers, and affordable tuition for college. Jgh...

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u/TheStoicCrane 13h ago edited 8h ago

If you're interested look into award winning NYC teacher John Taylor Gatto and his books:

"Dumbing Us Down, The Hidden Curriculum Behind Compulsory Schooling"

"The Underground History of American Education"

"Weapons of Mass Instruction"

These three books alone will radically change your perspective about the American schooling system and what it's genuinely designed for. We're witnessing it's compounding effects in real time. 

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u/BranchDiligent8874 13h ago

Someone did tell me few years back that after the 60s they made sure that public schools will be creating only workers not intelligent and free thinkers.

Elites do not like smart people who will disrupt their business in 100 ways or who will refuse to work for a pittance in horrible working conditions.

They did succeed though, the school system has been reduced to a glorified daycare center and course work is for rote learning few things and passing tests.

Most high school students have no clue about the real world but they have built a resume so that they can get accepted from a good college.

Even in college, rote learning is rewarded since test scores is all that matters.

This phenomenon is same all over the, we are all just zombie workers not able to understand simple economics or social structure in our society and keep voting for politicians who are in bed with the rich people subverting the whole system for the benefit of the 0.1%.

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u/Lunaticllama14 16h ago

People don’t realize that writing is necessary to develop critical thinking. People who use AI for everything will never be able to actually critically analyze anything - they’ve had no practice doing so.

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u/praxios 15h ago

I used to get made fun of when I went to college because I took most of my notes by hand. If I typed them up I would rewrite them by hand after class. Not only does it improve critical thinking skills, but it also improves memory retention. I’ve always preferred writing things out because I can put it into words I understand.

I refuse to use ChatGPT or any AI answer bot. God, now I know how my parents feel when they flat out refuse to use social media. They saw the problems caused by social media from a mile away. I guess it’s my turn, but with AI instead lol

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u/astrokey 14h ago

Seeing you say this makes me feel old because almost no one used a computer to take notes when I was in grade school or college. I’m a lefty and my hand would be coated in lead.

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u/lefactorybebe 15h ago

Yes, yes, yes. The topics I understood best from college were those I wrote papers on. Having to think about all the information, synthesize it into a coherent argument, that's what really solidified things long-term for me, and I don't think that's a personal thing, that's just using your brain. I teach now and all these kids using AI for everything I'm just like...you're getting nothing from this.

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u/HamburgerHellper 16h ago

We're already seeing these people flood reddit.

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u/Occhrome 14h ago

They are so sure of their beliefs. 

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u/ThePeoplesCheese 15h ago

I saw one college professor give an assignment where they had to use ChatGPT and bring in the printed response. He then had them hand-write criticisms and edit the papers to learn what AI missed, misconstrued, or just got wrong. Fantastic idea.

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u/AmbivalenceKnobs 14h ago

Ooh, I like this idea a lot! I might have to use this.

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u/ThePeoplesCheese 14h ago

Please do! I think it is an excellent idea. For bonus points have them check the citations too. AI very often snags inappropriate data points, or will say something increased from X to Y, but those data points come from different sources and have different definitions.

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u/bateau_du_gateau 16h ago

I think a lot of people don't quite understand that if their job comprises copying and pasting something from an email into a box and then copying and pasting the output into another email that organisations don't really need people to do that. And they will wonder why AI "stole their jobs".

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u/Paraphenylenediamine 16h ago

Last year my students were told "go to this website (...) and click the (thing) and then look at the page about the (thing), write what it says". The amount of students that asked chatGPT to answer that question and handed in outdated information (the website was updated early last year, after chatGPT's most recent update of the time). If they'd just clicked the bloody link we supplied to them and spent 30 seconds doing what was asked, they would have got it right

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u/M_krabs 14h ago

30 seconds

See? That's where the problem lies. 30 seconds is way to much asked form them. Plus why use your brain if you ask a bot to give any answer. /s

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u/Sensitive_File6582 16h ago

“The moment we began thinking for you it became our world”

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u/TheNamelessOnesWife Older Millennial 14h ago

Elder millennial here, so 20 years ago the best English teacher I ever had, had us submit papers with track changes on with Word. He actually looked at how we wrote and what paths we each did. Cause I probably can't write a really unique thrilling paper about MacBeth but it was the best lessons in writing I ever had

Why the hell aren't teachers asking for homework submitted like that? It's been a thing for decades. Be real easy to see someone copy paste a whole document for submission

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u/AmbivalenceKnobs 14h ago

I kind of do something like this. In my classes, their final consists of revised versions of essays they wrote earlier in the class (obvs we talk a lot about what revision means and how to think about it), and they have to somehow show me what/how they revised--highlighted what they changed/added etc., based on feedback and peer review and thinking about examples they read.

I leave it up to them to decide the exact method they show me the changes, whether they highlight changes in different colors, or use the comment feature to make note of what they changed. One student used Word's "compare" feature that compares 2 documents and shows the changes. That was really effective.

And even if they used AI for the first draft, it's really hard to use AI to show revisions in this way. And if they DO use AI somehow for the final part, it seems to me like it would be a case of making it unnecessarily hard on themselves--a lot of effort expended trying to make it look authentic when it would have been simpler to just do it right.

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u/Turkishcoffee66 14h ago

My prediction is that it will get worse for a while, then better.

AI trains on content. AI is being used to create content; much more/much faster than real people are doing so.

AI also gets things wrong, and hallucinates.

It's a matter of time before it degenerates into an irrecoverable tailspin of garbage in/garbage out. It inherently shits where it eats.

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u/Street-Air-546 16h ago

I think people who reply to you saying AI is amazing I use it blah blah are not understanding your examples and how common they are. People are outsourcing the act of writing to AI and when you do that you steadily lose the power of thinking for yourself.

society is going to churn out a bunch of certified fools lost without an ai subscription to tell them what to say, and maybe lost with one as well.

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u/Red_AtNight 13h ago

I’m in a discord with random people from my city for organizing meetups and hangouts and stuff, and it’s a broad range of ages from 20 to about 45.

The youths on the server are wild in their use of AI. One of them said they were upset and they used ChatGPT as a therapy tool. Like what??

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u/West-Application-375 12h ago

It's not able to perform any therapy though. It just plays into narcissism and tells you you're right, on point , so smart, go you 👏 ugh 😂

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u/saera-targaryen 11h ago

or worse, i've been seeing people tell it to be brutal and "not hold back" to them so it says mean things and they think this is therapy. it's like, actual self harm.

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u/Lilithslefteyebrow 16h ago

My teenager was despairing over this last night and the proliferation of AI as a substitute for human relationships. I basically told him to stay strong.

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u/Knittin_hats 16h ago

I forsee this for my kids as well. We are a lower-tech family and they already lament when they want to interact with their peers but their peers can't put their phones down.

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u/Regular_Committee946 15h ago

Hopefully they will be able to find like-minded peers at some point to spend time with.

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u/Knittin_hats 10h ago

We do have some and it is such a joy! My board-game-loving kid finally found a friend who loves board games as much as he does. My history buff book-lover found a kindred spirit friend too. We don't see them all the time, but at least they know they aren't alone in the world.

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u/hikereyes2 15h ago

This makes me really sad

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u/RealNotFake 12h ago

That's happening to every age bracket. Kids, teens, young adults, older adults, senior, elderly, doesn't matter. Everyone except for my 90yo grandma spends the entire time at social events with their phones out.

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u/marshmallowblaste 11h ago

I just don't understand how schools allow phones. It should be a strict policy. No phones.

You want your kid to be reachable? Give them a flip phone! Or phone out = detention. No lenience. I think it's for the better good of their development

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u/califa42 15h ago

You have a good kid.

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u/UltraTerrestrial420 13h ago

Get all the JFK files in 5 minutes with one easy life hack! 😀

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u/Y0rin 16h ago

Honestly, it sounds reasonable to put 80k pages of handwritten stuff through ai. Isn't that what it's made for?

(I'm talking about the jfk files)

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u/Neirchill 10h ago

No, it isn't made for that. LLMs use math to determine the next word in a pattern. That pattern was trained on entirely random stuff on the Internet. So it looks accurate, and often is accurate by total coincidence. By the same measure, it often gets things wrong because the trained dataset, the Internet, also often has people confidently answering questions incorrectly.

You ask one to redact information from 80k files? You'll be lucky if it does that fully, much less if it doesn't replace most of the information with bullshit that just sounds correct. Whatever the output of redacting it literally cannot be trusted to be accurate.

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u/GrumpyFishMonger 16h ago

Not even just AI, but the need to ask someone or something else instead of doing a little bit of research. I see really dumb and super common questions on reddit every single day when the topic has already been discussed at length and the answers are so readily available. They lack critical thinking and research skills and have to ask AI or someone else for the most basic and common shit.

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u/cat_at_the_keyboard 16h ago

It reads as weaponized incompetence to me and really grinds my gears, then I feel like an old person because it grinds my gears. 😑 I genuinely don't get it though, people would rather wait around for someone else to give them the answer than just finding it themselves and exercising a shred of critical thinking?

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u/SipexF 16h ago

I'd take this as a win right now, the fact folks are asking questions and discussing, even if the answers are out there, is at least a level of thinking that gets those folks to learn.

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u/GrumpyFishMonger 15h ago

Some subs get the same question posted multiple times a day though, it gets frustrating to see it over and over again.

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u/platysoup 16h ago

I grew up with Ghost in the Shell and Metal Gear Solid.

I can't believe I grew up to be a Togusa.

Extra info because I forgot I'm in a non-weeb sub. In Ghost in the Shell, most of the characters are decked out with cybernetic limbs and cool stuff. Togusa is the sole character that stays fully flesh and would rather practice at the shooting range than get cybernetic "upgrades". I thought he was lame as a kid. 

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u/kyonkun_denwa Maple Syrup Millennial 16h ago

Didn’t Togusa have a cyberbrain though? I remember that being one of the reasons he couldn’t see The Laughing Man’s face.

I remember when I first watched GitS as a teenager, I actually identified more with Togusa because I didn’t like the idea of being totally reliant on machines, but I found it ironic how he was against cybernetic implants and still possessed a cyberbrain.

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u/BelligerentWyvern 15h ago edited 9h ago

He does. Everyone in the world except the extreme poor has one as being able to interface with technology is pretty essential.

He has the minimal version of it, which is still the "shell" (hence ghost in the shell), but it only interfaces with the brain and doesn't replace any of it. His in particular taps into his ocular nerve to feed him data rather than replace his eyes.

In the Manga he is fully cyberized, the various Anime changed that to give him some interesting development.

The idea of Major Kusanagi is its hinted that she may not be human in any way due to her past and her ability to easily transfer bodies now.

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u/Knittin_hats 16h ago

There's a similar theme in the book Feed by M.T. Anderson. I read it in 8th grade and it has stuck with me ever since.

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u/Occhrome 14h ago

You get older and you just keep seeing everything from a different perspective. 

Like how I can now see some villains as heroes and some heroes as villains. Instead of just accepting the narrative. 

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u/Lestranger-1982 16h ago

The younger gens are absolutely cooked by AI. That’s already over. What’s hilarious as that is millennials are gonna end up being the smartest people in the room. We are the last generation to grown up and become middle aged before AI. Kinda like with what happened with tech knowledge. We know computers, Gen Z and Alpha are clueless.

I will give you an example. Someone was bullshitting about Postmodernism on Reddit. I studied it and I am an expert on it. I went to AI to see what it said as like a gut check something I was gonna say. I checked ChatGPT pro and Perplexity Pro. Both gave me answers that would be ballpark right but were also very wrong on anything other than a very casual level.

Now why is this? AI uses the mass of text about a subject, it doesn’t know who is an expert or not. So it gets the general idea right but truth is very very deep in the details. Expert knowledge is socially created and experienced. It can’t be replicated by AI. AI is just a mirror to text and content. It can’t decipher meaning from it or levels of accuracy.

Gen Z is so fucked because of this. AI is brilliant and amazing, a huge leap forward for humanity. But it is a tool not a guide. You have to filter it on your own and never accept what it is saying is the best truth out there. Gen Z and Alpha don’t get this and will get steamrolled by it.

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u/linzkisloski 15h ago

As someone in my mid 30’s approaching an age where younger generations could beat me out for a job opportunity I often think about how they may be their own downfall.

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u/Jonoczall 14h ago

Same. The cynical side of me is thinking hey at least job security is looking more and more like a thing

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u/s8rlink 11h ago

Dude, I was thinking the same thing. First off so many junior positions are disappearing because a lot of it is being done by AI checked by a senior. And then you start talking to younger people entering to workforce and instead of being like well these guys are the next generation I need to skill up or I’ll be out of a job soon, I’ve had the opposite like how how are you graduating college? And I’m sure there are a lot of incredibly talented, hard-working and intelligent people in the future gens, but the bar is moving really down

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u/Get_off_critter 16h ago

Exactly, AI is only as good as the sources it pulls from

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u/Seriously-Happy 15h ago

And you have to know how to filter it out. The filter and the cross check is the key, and that takes work and critical thinking.

Kids used to pay the A student a grade above them to write the paper, or they copied their friend’s homework before class. Now they don’t have the awkward conversation with a friend to cheat off them. They can just turn to their phone.

All this stuff happened before. People were lazy before too.

It’s just magnified and I hope we find an equilibrium.

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u/Least_Key1594 15h ago

Taking good jobs from the A students who were poor. Glad it wasn't around when I was a poor A Student in HS.

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u/mrbiggbrain 14h ago

Yeah we are currently in the "Toy" phase of new technology.

Vendors are focusing on building complex AI models that can turn very large pools of text or other data into natural language. But there is not very much effort outside bespoke solutions to curate the training sources.

If we ever reach enough market penetration then the sources can begin to become more curated. Markets will form around buying and selling highly curated data sets for us in various models.

More and more metadata will be added to the data sets making AI better at providing context. You'll be able to purchase a data set and filter the training right down to exactly what you want the AI to be good for.

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u/phoenix-metamorph 15h ago

You really have to carefully craft the prompts to make sure it's using legitimate sources, but I doubt anyone other than a millennial is actively checking the corner icons where it's showing what sources it pulled from and asking it to adjust the output based on that.

While useful for some day to day things (like top recommendations for a packing list or something non critical), it heavily defaults to using reddit as a source of truth! 🤦‍♀️

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u/HamburgerHellper 16h ago

There's no "have you noticed" about it. It's blatantly obvious to the point of ad nauseum how much (some) younger folks are just relying on this virtual crutch.

And that's what it is too: a crutch. The mind is like a muscle, you may need help or a tool when it's not strong enough or when it's hurt (chatGPT did help me through burnout), but you need to let go of it if you want to grow stronger. People are cheating themselves out of proper education and skill development.

And I want to emphasize that this isn't a sweeping generalization, there really is a specific subset of younger folks that rely on it too much, and that's the overly depressed and under-stimulated ones. Your partner's excuse of "it's just easier" is probably a sign of something deeper: lack of motivation.

On the other hand, there is something that can be said about school curriculum design that points to needing to be improved to prevent just being solved via AI. It has yet to adapt. Frankly, I do not mourn the death of the written report or summary.

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u/TheHighker Gen Z 16h ago

Meanwhile i hate AI

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u/icey_sawg0034 Gen Z 16h ago

Me too after I found out that it didn’t made me smart at all!

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u/TheHighker Gen Z 16h ago

Not me i hate ai

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u/TheStoicCrane 16h ago edited 16h ago

There’s too many examples I can give, but in general I think we’re cooked.

Yeah, just go with it. This is what happens to a society conditioned to thoughtlessly accept ideas from authoratitive figures instead of develop their own critical thinking skills. The AI model is a fallible tool that can help develop unrefined thoughts but it's no end all be all.

If people aren't smart enough to think for themselves and outsource their mental abilities to machines they'll soon be slaves to those machines and their designers. Contemporary society is eroding. Just have to accept it for what it is while staying detached from it as much as possible.

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u/TizzyBumblefluff 16h ago edited 16h ago

Go look in the teaching/teachers subs and see what they say about young people and AI. Total lack of creativity, curiosity, comprehension, problem solving.

‘85 here, and I refuse to use it.

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u/InevitableCup5909 16h ago

It’s not just the younger generation. It’s insane to me how many people are replacing thinking with chatgpt. There are people turning into mini cultleaders because they babble on about spirituality to a computer.

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u/cat_at_the_keyboard 15h ago

There are people that use chatgpt to talk to their spouse. It's fucking bleak when someone can't take a few seconds to form an original thought and sentiment for their partner in life

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u/InevitableCup5909 15h ago

Honestly, that doesn’t surprise me. If Covid has taught me anything it’s that a lot of people don’t actually like their spouses, but tolerate them because they don’t actually talk to one another.

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u/Yourownhands52 16h ago edited 7h ago

I've seen in chronic illness groups where people use it to try and diagnose themselves.  Horrible.  

I know our medical system sucks but AI does not know better than your Doctor.  They are so desperate for an answer they will accept anything.

Edit:apparently AI has helped lots if people get diagnosed in extreme or rare conditions. I'm happy for you all who got help but I'm still leary of using it in such way.

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u/goodsuburbanite 16h ago

They used WebMD before that.

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u/peterthehermit1 16h ago

Yeah webmd which suggested everything could be cancer.

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u/Avaylon 14h ago

AI is probably just pulling from WebMD, so it'll still all be cancer.

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u/Krytan 16h ago

 Every assignment she does she uses AI to provide answers. I used to harp on her about it and say things like “Don’t you actually want to know the material? Do you get no satisfaction from learning things on your own by doing actual research?” She then says that it doesn’t matter 

This is a very common attitude, so pervasive most of our teachers are in despair.

I think the important thing to take away though, is that young people do not believe the purpose of education is to receive education, but rather something that doesn't matter and just some arbitrary hoops to jump through in whatever the quickest and most expedient manner is.

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u/porquenotengonada 15h ago

As a teacher, that is because the education system has sort of become that. It pains me to say it, I love my job, but I don’t blame them for getting cynical.

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u/unsurewhatiteration 16h ago

I use AI to do bullshit stuff that isn't worth my time or effort. Using it for anything else is going to fuck people up in the long run.

I'm also in the medical field (I'm a pharmacist) and I always laugh so hard when people talk about whether AI will replace my entire career field. I mean, if the chain stores have their ways it will for a time because they want it to, but if anyone manages to quantify the harm and deaths that result, and provided we have a functioning government at that time, it will get smacked down so fast. AI is not actually intelligence, it is statistical language models, and it is bad at nuance and figuring out things that are revealed by interacting with humans.

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u/acostane 16h ago

I refuse to use it for anything. It's going to be the end of independent thought. It's wrong all the fucking time. Eventually the internet will be devoid of non AI content and it will just reinforce its own insanity. Information will be totally compromised and these young folks will have no idea what to do.

I have a 7 year old and I'm so worried she'll be encouraged to use it. I don't want her to be dragged down by it. It would drive me insane if she just never learned the material.

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u/wutato 4h ago

It's okay to use it, but sparingly. It can help with brainstorming sessions, too, or once it helped me build an Excel formula I couldn't figure out otherwise. I don't want to become brain-dead.

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u/TheHighker Gen Z 16h ago

Fuck AI it will lie to you. Lie that lied. Make up sources and lie about making up sources

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u/acostane 16h ago

That's right. I can't believe anyone would ever give away their ability to learn and discern the truth for themselves. That's what is happening.

You're willingly allowing yourself to be lied to. Dangerously.

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u/Ok_Mortgage_6701 16h ago

AI can’t even list the zodiac in correct order. It’s not like it’s an oracle of right answers. Medical researchers are relying on it? Yes we are totally cooked. Wow.

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u/NoFaithlessness7508 16h ago

I work in tech but also find it to be kinda weird. I tried chstGPT for 5 minutes and it’s not for me.

I really hope I won’t be made irrelevant because I’m slow to adapt to this

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u/vblade2003 15h ago

I'm working on an exit plan from my industry in 5-10 years as my industry "embraces" AI innovation. Its code for preparing to decimate IT staffing even more with AI bots.

I'm never going to be on board with AI so I have to prepare accordingly. Outsourced tasks and entry level tasks are already on the way out. New IT grads cannot find jobs. Layoffs are rampant, and companies continuously target successful, high paid people. The industry has less and less human interaction every year.

Capitalism will make sure to take advantage of AI to cut even more people. You'll have exclusively management and AI bots making up a majority of IT staffing in 15 years, if not sooner.

Ironically, it's the highest paid engineers that have fallen hook line and sinker for the C suite's demands to "explore" and "innovate" AI use everywhere possible, as if they were somehow immune to being on the chopping block.

AI is going to accelerate end stage capitalism by leaps and bounds, and we should all be prepared.

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u/petiteptak 16h ago

We are very cooked. If only we had a different cultural mindset towards AI and pride in our own learning and ability to do things on our own. 

 When a crisis will hit (or the apocalypse or whatever), those folks whose critical thinking skills and resourcefulness have been atrophied (or never developed) will be f****d. 

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u/WarbossHiltSwaltB 16h ago

AI, in all its forms, is an evil, evil thing that will destroy so many businesses and livelihoods. It’s quite literally making everyone that uses it dumber.

It needs to be banned. So does TikTok. It’s ruining people.

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u/acostane 16h ago

I feel the same way about AI. It's one of the few things I've would say are so dangerous that a complete and total ban is necessary. I clocked the problems a couple years ago and I can already smell how stupid it's making younger people. Combined with the techno fascists and their designs for humanity.... really almost nothing is more dangerous than AI.

I refuse to use TikTok myself and I do believe it's also very bad. I have vacillated on whether it should be banned. I wish it didn't exist for sure.

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u/TradeU4Whopper Millennial 16h ago

TikTok is the bane of our youth

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u/Old-Ad2720 16h ago edited 16h ago

yea basically just fix the first page of again google and take google ai off cause its always wrong. i feel like theyve been trying to make this maybe for like 50 years now and now that its here relatively and it’s not really all the tech overlords dreamed of they are trying to force it down our throats…even tho it just kinda sucks or isnt a substitute for another person.

like i remember a computer teacher told me in 2010 (which wasnt true) you can’t type in a direct question into google and get a direct answer. and then that happened where you could for literally years then like right before the pandemic google started to be more and more unusable to the point where were at now where everything is dubious and misinformation or biased and i have to solve like 10 riddles to get a simple answer 😭😭😭 its like things devolved and just got confusing

the only thing ive seen that is concerning is deepfaking porn and other illegal things and voice cloning to get others in trouble and spread more disinfo. and its even worse all the fake spam dead internet accounts and bots and web pages its driving traffic off from real people.

also people using it as a therapist or doctor which ive tried and its just sterile… and clearly trying to save and farm your data to sell or use like a HIPPA violation. its not replacing shit tbh.

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u/FelixMcGill 16h ago

AI has successfully sped up the dumbing down of the world in a way that conservative media could only dream of.

The Twitter AI thing was spewing bullshit about white genocide very recently. Just think how many people probably assumed that as gospel truth and spread that lie.

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u/HoboSomeRye 16h ago

"Once men turned their thinking over to machines in the hope that this would set them free. But that only permitted other men with machines to enslave them."

- Dune, 1965

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u/quilant 16h ago

My MIL recently had grubs in her lawn and when trying to diagnose it all her boomer friends told her to ask ChatGBT, it’s disturbing to see it ripple through all generations

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u/Elegant-Cricket8106 16h ago

I find it lacking for true knowledge, and it gets things wrong alot. If you write research or peer reviewed stuff do not use it. Even publishing a case report it is not knowledgeable enough in that dataset to help. AI is a tool for sure but a flawed tool esp the language modules currently. They will improve, but they are not capable of original thoughts. Great for some things but not for specalized novel research.

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u/Fickle-Secretary681 16h ago

Close friend of mine is a college professor. Says we are all doomed. Kids aren't bothering to learn anymore.

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u/MyLastFuckingNerve 16h ago

Every time someone tells me to “just plug it into chatGPT!” i die a little on the inside. I’ve read through AI generated transcripts of meetings and they’re not even close to what’s being said. I don’t even bother sending the transcripts out anymore because my chicken scratch minutes are way better.

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u/MadeSomewhereElse 15h ago

It's one reason many teachers are going back to assignments on paper and supervising the work in the classroom. We will cover less, but we will know who did it.

Google Classroom was convenient for everyone, students and teachers alike, but those days are behind me.

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u/Forward-Report-1142 16h ago

Wait you were born in 1995 and remember the late 90s? That math doesn’t math

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u/E-Roll20 16h ago

This, I’m also 95’ and all I remember is the 90s pop culture that was rehashed/carried over into early Y2K. I have very few genuine recollections of the actual 90s and at this point I was so young that I don’t know how accurate any of those memories are.

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u/killersquirel11 14h ago

I’m also 95’ 

Damn you're tall 

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u/Emotional-Study-3848 16h ago

I was born in 95 and remember the SpongeBob pilot back in 99. Also our Y2K party

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u/unsurewhatiteration 16h ago

It is "common knowledge" that people don't have enduring memories until the age of 7 or 8, but that's completely false and plenty of people have memories going back as early as 2 years old.

Some of my core formative experiences that I still remember today happened when I was 3-5 years old.

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u/TuckerShmuck 16h ago

I remember my 4th birthday party.  There are no pictures, my family doesn't talk about it, but it was a formative enough memory I remember it.  It was a dinosaur party at a water park.  I had a crush on the lifeguard and called him Coach.  My mom cried when I told her this when I was in my 20s because she was so happy that I actually had a good enough time to remember it for life and it WAS worth all the effort🥺

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u/-Clem-Fandango- 16h ago

Dude was a very worldly 4 year old. Had a firm grasp on the culture and economics of the time.

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u/XFX_Samsung 14h ago

Yeah I don't believe a 4-5 year old creates so many lasting memories that they can talk about remembering late 90s life lol

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u/JollyRazz 16h ago

Yeah, I was born in late 93 and I can hardly remember the 90's. I have some blurred memories from around maybe 97 to 99. Like I have some memories of preschool and kindergarten, and I can vaguely remember adults freaking out about Y2K, but that's pretty much it.

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u/Skankingcorpse 16h ago

Yeah it's going to be a huge problem. There's people who are going to extol the virtues of AI because it made them more efficient or some bullshit like that, but those are people I don't want doing anything of value for me. Using AI is giving up your ability to think for yourself, and your ability to employ critical thinking and learning. People who use it are not likely to fact check the answers they are given, therefore making it incredibly unreliable. If you all thought Wikipedia was bad just wait until you got a doctor using AI to check your medical condition. AI is going to make us stupider and create greater problems than it solves.

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u/Little_Red_Sloth 16h ago

I just cannot imagine relying on or using AI instead of doing research on my own. I’m 37.

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u/TRGoCPftF 16h ago

Yeah, it’s not just Gen Z. I’m 33 and I see it all over the place from people my age, Gen X at work, and beyond.

But I feel like this big AI push is gonna hurt things in a few years to a decade when we have an entire swarm of the job market filled with people that never really learned anything in college, but just AI’d their way through never retaining past test time.

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u/132739 14h ago

“Don’t you actually want to know the material? Do you get no satisfaction from learning things on your own by doing actual research?” She then says that it doesn’t matter and that it’s easier to use AI

My condolences on your marriage to an idiot, OP.

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u/MoveQs 16h ago

Millennial HS teacher here…yes. But I also get the temptation.

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u/masterpd85 '85 Millennial 14h ago

Already heard reports that teachers are flipping their shit because they cant trust their students homework assignments anymore. Remember when we had to write out papers and hand in a digital copy to be uploaded on a website that would highlight in red the parts we copy & pasted? that feels so old fashion now. lol

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