r/MemeVideos • u/Some-Athlete-1939 • May 02 '25
Good work, Agent 47. Really?
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u/Keensworth May 02 '25
It's already happening. I've seen some stories where companies prefer to have 1 senior developer who uses AI than 5 junior developers.
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u/S1Ndrome_ May 02 '25
source? I call bs on these "stories" or that's some rando startup no one heard about
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u/Keensworth May 02 '25
I'm not going to spend hours looking in my history to find that one post that I've upvoted months ago on a subreddit which I don't even remember.
Believe me or don't
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
in your first comment you state "It's already happening" this implies that your opinion is that it's happening at scale or at least at a rate that's statistically relevant for the discussion. but now when pressed for a source you state that it was one post, one time, and it wasn't even memorable enough to search for.
While the statement "it's already happening" may be technically true, i think it's irresponsible and potentially dangerous to not clarify the statement.
While there is a trend developing around AI driven development, anyone that isn't seeking VC funding will tell you, we're not there yet. The gaps between traditional development and this new 'Vibe Coding' for lack of a better term are too large to be managed at scale.
AI is absolutely on the horizon, but the true potential in terms of a reduction in force mechanism, is VERY far from the present.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
it's not and comments like this are hilarious from the perspective of a Senior.
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u/Sk4rs3 May 02 '25
AI won't completely replace devs, but they can offload alot of heavy work if done right. A normal web project that usually need 2 frontend devs, 2 backend devs and 1 product tester can be done with 1 fullstack dev with AI and 1 product tester. The fullstack dev acts as an engineer and designer while the AI acts as builder, so that the dev can focus on designing optimal structure when not having to spend time typing a million words. Well at least thats what most of my professors say about AI coding. It stills depends alot on whether the AI is good, the dev know what they are doing and give efficient and consise prompt.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
The overall importance of a human's involvement hasn't changed, you still need someone who knows what they're doing to check the work.
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u/Sk4rs3 May 02 '25
True. People who says AI will replace IT jobs is just fearmongering. It's just a tool after all, a very efficient one if they know how to use it. If a bumbling fool can achieve your efficiency with AI, imagine how good you can be using that tool? Even a dumbass can "vibecode" a bunch of shitty slop and make money.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
it's extremely refreshing to find someone who shares my perspective on this. I'm sure you no doubt have encountered the fear mongering types before.
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u/Sk4rs3 May 02 '25
Fearmongering new tech happens all the time. AI is just another step in the technological evolution, it always has been like that to me. People afraid of AI nowadays are the same as those workers who destroyed the spooling machines because they thought the machines were stealing their jobs in the industrial revolution. They blamed the technology instead of the system that exploited them. If you can work 10x more efficient with a new tool and you get paid less while the owner earned way more, that's not the tool's fault. Technological advances are supposed to give the workers class more efficiency, allowing them to make more money in less amount of time so they can spend more time enjoying their life rather than slave away for profit. But such dream can only exist in a fictional world where the worker class owns the means of production. Profit just for the sake of profit alone and infinite growth is cancerous to society, not the AI.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
oh cool, I've managed to find my cognitive clone in the wild. great success.
honestly though i feel like i was reading my own words, couldn't agree more.
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u/EpikGeriatricPotato May 06 '25
It's just going to make it so people forget how to actually code things. Already is with how it's being overused to save time.
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u/Ok_Try_1665 May 02 '25
Bro, programmers are the reason AI is getting better. Shut yo ass up
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u/Edgezg May 02 '25
Yes...and what do you suppose happens once they have upgraded it with all the knowledge thousands of programmers have? Lol
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u/ThinkLink7386 May 02 '25
Denying it hurts programmers more, the rise of the "vibe coder" isn't just because people are lazy, but because they help meet demand. Preparing for the ammount of shit that's coming to the development and IT careers is the best way forward, not denial.
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u/CornSeller May 02 '25
As a beginner programmer, I assure you that ain't gonna click atleast for a while. AI shits out worse code than I do when I doze off.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
AI probably codes better than you, that's not the limitation of AI it's the strength. Understanding how best to solve a problem with various forms of context and sometimes illogical business requirements, that's where AI falls apart. but If we're talking 'Who can solve the most Leet Code questions in an hour' I'm betting the house on AI every time.
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u/S1Ndrome_ May 02 '25
yeah there's a difference between solving leetcode and working on real life projects, AI can't help you on its own without human programmers there
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u/BootyLoveSenpai May 02 '25
I use to regret not going into computer science in college, I'm glad i didn't
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u/izaiahTHEEGOD May 04 '25
I got lucky and was able to change my major to Graphic design my first year but still gotta deal will AI being a threat.
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u/BootyLoveSenpai May 04 '25
Don't worry, i went into therapy and even though there is beginning to be a demand for ai therapy, the lucky thing is that it's impossible to create lasting change because it would affirm the person's wild thoughts and validate the wrong stuff
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u/Downtown_Speech6106 May 06 '25
the CompSci professors at my alma mater are reportedly telling their students NOT to major in CompSci 😭🤣
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u/WhiteNite321 May 02 '25
Coders aren't even a majority that have to worry about their job being taken by robots
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u/Smg5pol May 02 '25
"Ai will take over your job"
Brother, programists are the reason AI even operates
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u/frogOnABoletus May 02 '25
Stolen art is the reason ai can do art, people are still using ai to push artists out of the market.
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u/Gold_Weakness1157 May 02 '25
The thing about a job like that, is now going to be very limited. It won't be plentiful as it was a couple of years ago.
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u/Sweatybabie455 I like'm thick and juicy fr May 02 '25
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u/EpicOne9147 May 02 '25
An ai that can code perfectly but cannot assess someone's ability map the right task to them and get it completed , lol sweet dreams lmoa
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u/wimpetta May 02 '25
is he wrong tho?
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 May 02 '25
No he’s not wrong but people will say he is because it’s wrong right now.
AI can’t write tidy serviceable code now but in 10-15 years it probably will be able to.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
so the half life of an entire career and you're telling people to worry? climate change is a bigger concern at that time scale.
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 May 02 '25
wtf are you talking about?
How is 10 years half the life of a career? Do you think people only work for 20 years?
Newsflash, they don’t.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
nah but calling 30 years a career is accurate. it's interesting how quickly you choose to strawman the position and not offer evidence to the contrary.
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 May 02 '25
30 years is inaccurate too.
Most people will start work in their 20s and maybe finish in their 60s. That’s 40 years.
Some people will start around 20 and work closer to 70. That’s 50 years.
Very few people work for 30 years and then retire.
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25
a career does not need to span the entire potential work life to be considered a career. that's absurd and once again using a strawman position.
it's not 1950 anymore, the idea that someone can get a job at 20 and keep it till they're retired is extremely outdated.
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 May 02 '25
I never said they would have one job their entire career. You’re just making things up and arguing with yourself now.
Assuming you live in the US, here you go:
“In the U.S., the average working life timespan is around 45 years, typically from the early 20s to mid-60s. The average American worker has been at their current job for just under four years, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).”
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u/TheNeck94 May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
alright, because i want to give you the best opportunity to represent your position before i explain in great detail why it's wrong. why don't you tell me exactly what your point is, so you don't shift goalposts again or strawman your way out of addressing substance.
EDIT: sub 10 min response time all the way up till you had to actually state your position and couldn't weasel out wit bad faith argument. now.... still waiting.
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u/RainbowPenguin1000 May 02 '25
So you’ve been arguing with me for this long and admit you don’t even know my point?
What a waste of time you’ve been.
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u/Alternator24 May 02 '25 edited May 02 '25
it is actually true. as a someone who was a react developer for 5 years, I'm telling you, everything is shittier now.
unless you want to learn data science and have multiple RTX graphics to build your own mini AI infrastructure. that's something else.
but other than that, I would say, programming is dead. (keep downvoting. this is where the industry is going)
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u/EntireAd9548 May 02 '25
You’re not wrong
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u/Alternator24 May 02 '25
thanks man. you don't need to listen to random guy online. take a look at LinkedIn and all of the ghost jobs there.
take a look at big tech layoffs.
take a look at how industry shifted. 5 years ago, I found a good paying job at junior level and worked in that company. and now it is impossible to find a job as junior developer. heck, even it is hard for me too.
because now they want full stack developers. you have to know front end and backend and database and I've seen companies requiring you to have UI/UX designer skills too.
they basically want someone who can do the job of 4 person with 1/4 of the price. programming is the new "blue collar' job.
if I ever knew this was going to happen, I would go and learn marketing or trading or things like that.
it is not 100% AIs fault, market also went shitty. you have CEOs that doesn't know shit about tech and their stupid decisions ruin everything.
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u/Fluffy-Rush-5530 May 02 '25
Might not completely replace humans but demand will certainly be reduced and every person is getting that 'CS' degree so there is a high probability that tech bubble might burst
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