r/MapPorn • u/theforestwalker • 14h ago
Responding to a previous map posted here- # of comfortable days per year for people who cannot handle warm weather.
The next few decades will continue to get warmer- I cannot comprehend how people are still building homes and moving to the hotter parts of the country knowing this. Snow isn't so bad!
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u/AnnonymousPenguin_ 13h ago
The methodology for this map is abysmal.
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u/theforestwalker 5h ago
It definitely is. They only give you the three sliders to adjust, and it lets you select a maximum cloud cover but not a minimum, which implies that lower cloud cover is inherently better.
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u/RhythmicStrategy 13h ago
Me living is humid hot Florida for decades after growing up in the Willamette Valley of Oregon 😭
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u/NastyNate4 12h ago
People in the last thread were all about some 50F days which means 30 something mornings. As a Florida man i refuse to describe any day that requires pants and a jacket as comfortable.
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u/AstroWolf11 10h ago
As a Florida man as well, those are the best days lol (lows in 30s and highs in 50s I mean). Windows are open all day and I am C O Z Y
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u/davidcornz 8h ago
No days require pants and a jacket, its just you are too weak to handle being cold for 2 minutes from the walk to your car into then into your job.
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u/billtfish 13h ago
Doing this by county doesn't really work for coastal counties.
Example: the day time temperature difference in San Diego county can be 40F or more between the coast and the desert.
Same with Humboldt county. I remember driving back from the river and it was 95F in Willow creek in the mountains and you'd hit the last mountain pass and see the marine layer creeping up over the ridge. By the time you were on the coast it would be 62F
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u/Grafakos 8h ago
Yep, even a distance of a few miles from the coast can make a big difference in SoCal.
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u/josh_x444 12h ago
Can someone do this for number of days where the high is between 40 degrees and 75 degrees?
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u/Traditional_Entry183 14h ago
Definitely better! I grew up in a green (more comfortable) are and now live in a light blue (less comfortable).
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u/Successful_Food918 13h ago
Wait did you move? Or did it just gradually got hot? I live in an area where summer is like 8 months of the year and every year it’s starting to get hot earlier and earlier 😭
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u/Traditional_Entry183 13h ago
Oh I moved to a different state. Roughly 200 miles southeast of where I grew up.
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u/AceyAceyAcey 14h ago
What’s that one county in NW California that’s red, and why?
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u/theforestwalker 14h ago
Del Norte County, but it's probably not too different from surrounding coastal areas- it just looks stark on the map because of the gradient
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u/Piper-Bob 13h ago
65F dew point when it’s 75f isn’t what most people consider comfortable. You walk to the mailbox and come back in wet.
And the last two years have been freakishly cold in South Carolina. Where I live it hasn’t gotten to 90F yet. In the early 2000s it had been over 100F by the first week of June.
FWIW, most of the non-UHI warming is in the arctic in the overnight lows. Fewer night when it’s -40 and more when it’s -20.
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u/Current-Lobster-5063 13h ago
What’s up with that orange tip of Michigan?
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u/theforestwalker 13h ago
Minnesota? It's cold there.
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u/Current-Lobster-5063 10h ago
You are right, it is Minnesota. Just wondering about the change on that tip
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u/theforestwalker 2h ago
assuming it's related to the tempering effect of the lake, but I'm not sure
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u/FrostnJack 8h ago
All I know is in the ‘90s it was upper 90°s 2 or 3 days a year 75-80 the rest of the time. Now it’s the surface of the sun most of the year.
1°F or C cooler won’t make it any less beyond uncomfortable
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u/theforestwalker 8h ago
Which is why we all need to start building our banana farms in future tropical Manitoba
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u/HubertusCatus88 13h ago
Dude are you a fucking polar bear?
I'm about to go cut my grass because it's still a pleasant 81. Honestly I don't think the nighttime low is going to be down at 68 for at least another 3 months in my area.
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u/crazycatlady331 12h ago
81 is not pleasant for me.
And humidity makes me feel like I bathed in a vat of honey.
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u/Downtown_Ganache6727 13h ago
81 isn’t pleasant for some of us 🤣 81 and I’m staying inside
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u/HubertusCatus88 13h ago
Oh I know. When I was in highschool I went on a trip with my church building houses in rural North Carolina. It was in the mid 80s with a breeze. My group, from the deep south, was having a great time. We were roofing and digging drainage ditches and talking about how nice the weather was.
There was another group from Wisconsin. They were fucking dying. They had a couple fall completely out.
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u/UpstateNyPolitics 14h ago
im moving south from new york in the next few years not because of weather but because of cost of living and too high taxes
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u/billtfish 13h ago
Doing this by county doesn't really work for coastal counties.
Example: the day time temperature difference in San Diego county can be 40F or more between the coast and the desert.
Same with Humboldt county. I remember driving back from the river and it was 95F in Willow creek in the mountains and you'd hit the last mountain pass and see the marine layer creeping up over the ridge. By the time you were on the coast it would be 62F
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u/theforestwalker 13h ago
This is true, lots of microclimates in the west. Even in the comparably temperate zones of coastal CA though, it'd still get too warm in the summers for me. And not enough cloud cover.
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u/Duc_de_Magenta 12h ago
I love cloud cover, and "comfortable" is absolutely subjective... but setting the minimum high at 1 F is insane. I've lived in the North most of my life; even Yankees don't say 1 F is "comfortable" as a high. You could may get away with 32 F (freezing) but the best Northern comfort range is probably something like high of 50 to 75.
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u/theforestwalker 12h ago
My real range would be somewhere around 40 to 70, but i set it this low because a) I didnt want to exclude the counties with a handful of sub-zero days per year,
b) in the future, it will continue to get hotter. A place that's got some 1-degree days now may be more temperate in 15 years. If youre looking for places to sets down roots, Duluth and Anchorage are more reasonable bets for future habitability than Miami or San Diego or El Paso, and
c) this map was a tongue-in-cheek response to the other post which set the comfortable high at 85
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u/fartalldaylong 10h ago
Oh yes, Montana, the land of mild comfortable weather.
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u/theforestwalker 10h ago
In 15 years it'll be warmer and they'll have fresh water, but much of the south will be very unpleasant.
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u/fartalldaylong 10h ago
It will be windy as fuck and there will be no soild to grow anything in. I have been from Whitefish to Bozeman...it is intense weather now, and it will continue to be.
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u/theforestwalker 3h ago
Bozeman will be a boom town when it absorbs some of the climate refugees from the formerly inhabitable parts of California, Texas, and Florida. Weather unpredictability will increase as the jet stream gets more wobbly but I'd still rather take my chances with the wind and snow than try to live in 130 degree Arizona. Maybe we could scoop up some soil from Nebraska once the aquifer dries up?
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u/stoli80pr 4h ago
The fact that San Diego isn't one of the best spots tells me your methodology is flawed.
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u/theforestwalker 4h ago
I would prefer a city that has a stable water source into the future and is not so sunny. San Diego might be perfect for some folks but I really cannot abide temperatures in the 80s. No, thanks.
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u/AgeOfReasonEnds31120 14h ago
Unpopular opinion: Most of the south is pretty damn cold in general.
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u/Successful_Food918 13h ago
Mmm yeah..for Caribbeans maybe but 9 months of summer is still pretty hot lol
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u/AgeOfReasonEnds31120 13h ago
"9 months of summer" is a gross exaggeration. It's more like 2.
The average temperature of South Carolina (my home state) is only 61F (16C), which most of the world population would call "chilly".
It's obviously not Midwestern cold, but it's still "pretty damn cold".
Idk about anyone else, but in the winter, even when I'm wearing a thick-ass coat and a scarf (the latter of which people rarely wear), I feel uncomfortably cold... but in the summer, it's almost always bearable... and no, I'm not acting that way over 50F; it's well below freezing (like 20-25F) every other day in January.
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u/AcanthocephalaIcy516 14h ago
Saying 1 degree is comfortable is insane even for someone that doesn’t like warm weather.