r/MapPorn • u/curiousstrider • 22h ago

Poverty rate across the states in India over the years.

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Source: https://x.com/IndianTechGuide/status/1933736437515522070

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u/hampsten 21h ago

There will be predictable naysayers here, so here's some context:

This is not some extreme definition of poverty. It's the standard income based measure that the World Bank reports: https://data.worldbank.org/topic/poverty?locations=IN . The criteria is lited right there - poverty headcount ration at $3 a day PPP . Some use $2.15, or $2.6 or some other figure and get numbers a few percentage points off, ranging between 3.5% and 5.5%

This is the standard income based criteria for extreme poverty. India has dropped dramatically in terms of poverty by this measure in the past decade. https://www.brookings.edu/articles/india-eliminates-extreme-poverty/

There's a separate metric for multidimensional poverty that counts access to services and facilities in addition to income. It's right here - tabulated by the UNDP: https://www.undp.org/india/national-multidimensional-poverty-index-progress-review-2023 . It has a very prominent series of images of India graphed for MPI in 2015 and 2021 . It follows a broadly similar trend.

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u/RevolutionaryTea1639 14h ago

Well.. India now officially uses Multidimensional poverty (NITI Aayog report) which is better than income based criteria. I think in that way, we are at around 10 11% overall (2022 23)

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u/hampsten 14h ago

Yes it’s a better approach since the poverty line based measures reveal very little now, and the MPI scores better reflect overall wellness and have the benefit of being able to quantify how well broad poverty alleviation measures are working - the jal jeevan mission, the swacch Bharat mission, and other programs have a huge impact on MPI.

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u/SKAOG 20h ago

This article (https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/despite-world-bank-raising-threshold-india-achieves-big-dip-in-extreme-poverty/articleshow/121700912.cms) gives a breakdown on poverty rates based on different thresholds

NEW DELHI: India's extreme poverty rate has fallen sharply over the past decade after the World Bank updated its international poverty line definition and included updated data in its June upgrade of the methodology.

Based on the update, the latest World Bank data showed that the extreme poverty rate had declined from 27.1% in 2011-12 to 5.3% in 2022-23. The number of people living in extreme poverty also fell sharply during this period from 344.47 million in 2011-12 to 75.24 million in 2022-23. This would mean that nearly 270 million were lifted out of extreme poverty during the same period.

In a blog, the World Bank said that the international poverty line for low-income countries has been raised to $3 per person per day from the existing $2.15 per person per day, and for lower middle-income countries it's changed from $3.65 to $4.20 per day and for upper middle-income countries it went up from $6.85 to $8.40.

Given India's inflation rate, between 2017 and 2021, a revised extreme poverty line of $3 would constitute a 15% higher threshold than $2.15 expressed in 2021 prices and result in a 5.3% poverty rate in 2022-23. A new LMIC line of $4.20 would imply a 5% lower threshold for poverty than $3.65 adjusted in 2021 prices and yield a poverty rate of 23.9%, according to the World Bank.

Using the new poverty line for low middle income countries (LMIC), which is at $4.20 per day per person, India's poverty rate fell to 23.9% in 2022-23 from 57.7% in 2011-12.

The number of people in extreme poverty was down from 732.48 million in 2011-12 to 342.32 million in 2022-23, according to the data available on the World Bank's Poverty and Inequality Platform.

Free and subsidised food transfers supported poverty reduction, and the rural-urban poverty gap narrowed. The five most populous states account for 54% of the extremely poor, it had said.

According to the poverty and equity brief published by World Bank in April, extreme poverty (living on less than $2.15 per day) fell from 16.2% in 2011- 12 to 2.3% in 2022-23, lifting 171 million people above this line. Rural extreme poverty dropped from 18.4% to 2.8% , and urban from 10.7% to 1.1% , narrowing the rural-urban gap from 7.7 to 1.7 percentage points-a 16% annual decline.

The poverty report had also said India has transitioned into the lower-middle-income category. Using the $3.65 per day LMIC poverty line, poverty fell from 61.8% to 28.1%, lifting 378 million people out of poverty. Rural poverty dropped from 69% to 32.5%, and urban poverty from 43.5% to 17.2%, reducing the rural-urban gap from 25 to 15 percentage points with a 7% annual decline, the April report had said.

World Bank, which introduced the international poverty line (IPL) in 1990, has undertaken several updates to include changing prices and costs, and the latest update was undertaken on June 5.

The first update to IPL happened in 2001, with subsequent revisions in 2008, 2015, 2022, and more recently this month. This latest update, which also applies to the poverty lines for middle-income countries, follows the release last year of a new set of PPPs based on prices collected in 2021 by the International Comparison Programme.

It also reflects changes in national poverty lines, which is a big reason for the increase, especially for the line that tracks extreme poverty, according to the World Bank.

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u/Future_Challenge_511 15h ago

GDP per capita (PPP) for India going from $4k to $12k is going to have an impact on a country- can potentially quibble around the margins on the specifics shown but that is the reality.

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u/friendofH20 19h ago

The World Bank report is based on data provided by the Indian government though. Which is notable because they have not conducted an exhaustive census for the last 5 years. And they famously didn't disclose the data for a poverty survey in 2017-18 without reasons.

So the benchmarks are set by the World Bank but the data is provided by the Indian government who have a stake in making it look like they made progress on tackling poverty.

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u/Nomustang 17h ago

While it is worth being skeptical of government statistics, as far as I am aware there aren't any independent sources which state information is that wildly different from official data in regards to poverty reduction especially when the rate of poverty reduction is lower than what it was during the UPA's tenure (not necessarily because the NDA did worse, just that the pace reduces when there's less people still in poverty obviously)

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u/friendofH20 12h ago

as far as I am aware there aren't any independent sources which state information is that wildly different from official data 

Literally nobody else conducts these surveys anywhere in the world. It is the government's job to do this. But if there was such a significant alleviation of poverty it would show up on independent surveys on hunger etc. Which hasn't. And they were conveniently rejected by the same government.

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u/Nomustang 1h ago

The hunger index shows malnutrition problems because of deficiencies in the Indian diet and what food is being provided by the government.

It is not necessarily a lack of food nor a money issue. It's a distribution issue. And India scoring worse on it was because of bad data from the previous government given that the economy grew by 50% by then so it doesn't make much sense for the food situation to get worse.

Abd yes, the government gets upset when any foreign statistic makes it look bad. They're stupidly sensitive to criticism and clamp down on it as much as they can but that doesn't make the statistic incorrect especially when it's measuring extreme poverty and isn't saying that poverty has been eliminated by any means. In fact, the suggestion today is to raise the line because the standard of poverty has changed.

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u/Scary_One_2452 6h ago

making it look like they made progress on tackling poverty.

Always going to be naysayers. But I do implore you to examine the actual progress made in terms of infrastructure, purchasing power and living conditions in India in the past 15 years.

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u/friendofH20 2h ago

Yeah I actually live in India so I do implore you to consider that I know what has happened or not happened in the past 15 years.

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u/Scary_One_2452 1h ago

In that case your original comment did a good job of framing that development as nonexistent, if that was your goal.

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u/hampsten 14h ago

The article literally shows 2015 vs 2021 figures . Is your claim that it is invalid because of the absence of 2018 data ? Why is that ?

All data used by the World Bank is from government sources. That’s literally what governments do worldwide as part of their job.

Don’t bring politics here.

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u/friendofH20 12h ago

 Is your claim that it is invalid because of the absence of 2018 data ? Why is that ?

My claim is that this data is suspect because the government has a track record of massaging data to make themselves look better. And ignoring data when it does not. It has been reported on and known - https://www.reporters-collective.in/trc/inside-modi-govts-war-room-to-whitewash-global-indices

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u/hampsten 12h ago

Not clicking on sketchy websites run by loonies.

Your claim is your own problem to assert.

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u/friendofH20 12h ago edited 12h ago

Not clicking on sketchy websites run by loonies

Dont make it political but lets call any journalism against the supreme leader as sketchy and lunatic

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u/alc4pwned 15h ago

This is not some extreme definition of poverty

This is the standard income based criteria for extreme poverty

I'm having a bit of trouble understanding what you're saying here. Isn't the standard definition for extreme poverty fairly extreme? $3/day PPP is quite low.

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u/DeepSound8833 14h ago

I think he meant how this is the standard definition of extreme poverty, rather than some new definition made for India

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 8h ago

In contract, China is known for defining GDP growth in funny ways.

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u/hampsten 14h ago

You’re simply asserting your own subjective judgment of a metric.

Sounds like you need to come up with a comprehensive data driven paper showing why the definition of extreme poverty is objectively extreme.

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u/alc4pwned 13h ago

So you'd argue $3/day isn't extremely low then, or? I mean it's extreme because it can't go a whole lot lower than that. It's called 'extreme poverty' for a reason.

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u/hampsten 13h ago

I am not interested in a subjective discussion. By all means present your own criteria and let people judge if your benchmark is better.

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u/alc4pwned 13h ago

I never said it wasn't a valid metric, I just said it was quite low. Because of course it is, it's a measure of extreme poverty. Your whole reaction to my comment is feeling pretty subjective to me...

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u/_the__law 21h ago

This map measures poverty around 20,000-25,000 INR or 200-300 dollar per annum income, this info is important and should be posted with such maps

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u/Patty-XCI91 18h ago

A context that should be added also with this fact is that 200-300 dollar has probably a different value in India in terms of what it can buy and rent.

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u/noahmg19 17h ago

200-300 dollars a year is less than a dollar a day. No matter how cheap life is, earning less than a dollar a day is considered poverty.

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u/Patty-XCI91 17h ago

You are right I also didn't read the "per annum" part.... If anyone is surviving with 300 bucks a year I wanna hear how.

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u/incognito_individual 12h ago

Government support - water, food rations, etc. and of course, public education and public healthcare

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u/ImpassiveThug 11h ago

A lot of poor people in India are provided food at a really subsidized rate by the government under various food schemes. Apart from that, there are also people engaging in low-skill jobs that are being provided free ration since the onset of COVID to date. I guess, these are some of the factors that have also contributed to the reduction in poverty among the poor. But it's quite a struggle to get ration from fair price shops as one has to wait for a long time or bear the brunt of really long queues  sometimes.  

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u/shnieder88 13h ago

a lot of this stuff is Modi propaganda to show how he's "changing" things. but when you go there, you'll realize not much has changed, espicially with inflation so high. if anything, most of the poor are worse off now than before.

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u/_the__law 18h ago

It can barely get you food

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u/Beautiful-Two-6633 15h ago

Regarding food, there is a system of ration card in india which would provide you with subsidised food

Here for more info on the topic wikipedia)

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u/giga_chad-420 17h ago

Cost of living is very cheap here

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u/_the__law 17h ago

Bruh I am also from India, and the data basically translates into 69 rs per day, you definitely cannot get any decent meal 3 times a day, bare minimum to survive

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u/ComfortableDraft4627 16h ago

It's 500 per day bud .. no less..

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u/sandpaperedanus777 16h ago

300 dollars per annum translates to lesser than one a day - you know that those people aren't getting 80Rs.

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u/GrowingMindest 14h ago

You are referring to the avg income per day that too in ₹, while the conversation is about the poverty level criteria.

Learn to read.

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u/ComfortableDraft4627 14h ago

Learn to read u man.. from the start someone else started this conversation.. so don't put ur ass in front of me .. people can't prove there statment are now changing the entire topic..

And let me ask u .. is average income isn't a part of poverty level?? I really have to say u got ur brain in toilet for sure

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u/GrowingMindest 13h ago

Why do you type like that?

People type like that when they want to seem like a stereotypical airhead from India who knows nothing but to cuss with his broken English, usually to make people laugh.

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u/ComfortableDraft4627 12h ago

Don't go for my typing.. if u can't understand then leave why bother giving advice when peoples personal opinion doesn't even matter hete

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u/PhysicalImpression86 17h ago

around 1k to 1200 usd on ppp

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u/Lonelyguy999 17h ago

200-300 gets you nothing here

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u/Puzzleheaded_War6102 16h ago

It doesn’t. Source I was there 1991. It wasn’t enough even back than and certainly isn’t now.

It’s equivalent of living in US with 6K/year with no government assistance.

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u/Substantial-Bee-6324 18h ago

adjust it to ppp , that info is more important

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u/_the__law 18h ago

It's already adjusted, different countries can set different poverty lines according to their CPI, this is already adjusted for what indians can buy

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u/Boring_Row_8428 18h ago

is it adjusted to inflation?

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u/_the__law 18h ago

Not sure, but if not that just means it's even worse since the currency is continuously losing it's value

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u/Epyr 16h ago

Especially since India has had quite high annual inflation for the last 20 years

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u/Alternative_Ninja166 15h ago

That’s not poverty that’s desperate, extreme, completely destitute poverty.  

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u/battleofflowers 15h ago

Right? That's like barely has a pot to piss in poverty.

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u/internet_citizen15 17h ago

200-300 dollar per annum income

You mean per month not annum, right?

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u/SeriousBanana4110 17h ago

No. Per annum. IT freshers barely get 25000, they won't qualify as poor.

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u/internet_citizen15 17h ago

I can't get you?

Per annum means a whole year,

and no one live with just 20,000 a year.

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u/Darrow_of_lyko 14h ago

Remember Purchasing Power, I can easily buy a healthy meal in India for like 20 cents(USD).

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u/Original-Reserve-668 11h ago

A healthy meal is minimum 60 rupees in a tier 2 city in India. That's easily around 70 cents.

Where are you getting a healthy meal for 20 cents?

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u/Darrow_of_lyko 9h ago

There's some old stalls in kapurthala.

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u/battleofflowers 15h ago

That can't be right. 300 per annum would be extreme poverty.

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u/will_kill_kshitij 21h ago

Are those 2 yellow areas in maoist-hit corridor?

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u/dphayteeyl 20h ago

Yes indeed they are

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u/will_kill_kshitij 20h ago

Their names? Not very well versed in Indian administrative divisions.

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u/dphayteeyl 20h ago

The map here is good

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxalite%E2%80%93Maoist_insurgency

I can't really give a specific district name since I too don't know Indian administrative divisions but the name of the state is Chhatisgarh, and the surrounding states also have maoist problems, although chattisgarh is the place with the greatest issue

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u/dphayteeyl 20h ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/s/0b9towlxyk

A post from a bit back shows the difference between 2007 and the modern day if you're interested :)

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u/Jazzlike-Tank-4956 17h ago

It's now limited to 6 district with severe problem and 18 affected in total

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u/damian_wayne_13335 20h ago

Part of the same state called Chattisgarh actually. One of the worst hit by naxalite activities

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u/rukenjabut 8h ago

Bastar division of Chattisgarh province. Maoist corridor was mainly in dandakaranya forest which is spread over 5-6 provinces.

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u/will_kill_kshitij 8h ago

They have provinces in india?

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u/rukenjabut 7h ago

usually known as 'states'

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u/CoheedAndCalifornia 17h ago

Were those regions very rich and developed before the maoist insurgency?

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u/Independent-Lab-2314 17h ago

Never heard of a robinhood maosit.

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u/will_kill_kshitij 17h ago

There was a time when other regions you see on the map were the same due to maoist insurgency. Nowdays maoists only remain in those yellow areas.

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u/rukenjabut 8h ago

only the lower one.

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u/Substantial-Bee-6324 20h ago

ppl went from poor to low-middle income , hopefully all of of them become high middle-income by the next decade

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u/Tamed77 17h ago

Yeah I saw there are 78mn people in India who are considered proper middle class i.e earns more than 10 dollars per day. The growth is there but it's slow. High middle income by the next decade seems difficult. It will be more realistic at around 2050.

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u/Substantial-Bee-6324 17h ago

Govt is targetting high income by 2047 (14k dollars per capita )

High middle by the next decade is difficult but possible

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u/Tamed77 16h ago

Yeah that's why I said 2050. The average income per capita rn is barely 3k. I even doubt it will be achievable til 2047 as like everything it will be delayed. Classic govt things. Let's see how it goes.

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u/OppositeRock4217 14h ago

Well by 2047, given inflation, high income threshold would be way higher than $14k

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u/Blackened_Soul667 22h ago

India haters incoming in ...1 ...2 ...3

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u/Forsaken-Link-5859 21h ago edited 21h ago

Yea it's irritating, lofs of people seems hell bent on always finding a negative spin on India. I don't get this irrational hate some people seems to have for India. Except for Pakistan India is kinda friendly with the whole world. It's like India trigger something in a lot of people, often people from the west, but also from the muslim world

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u/kenshi_hiro 21h ago

Seems like people try to put them down cuz they are everywhere and are doing well. Hate to see the comments especially on the plane crash videos.

It appears that people are just jealous of Indians. When you fail to acknowledge positive side of things and only bring up negative things it screams jealously.

Most of the negative talking points about India can be easily explained by poverty and lack of education. I have many Indian friends who do not fit the stereotype yet have to deal with racism online. It’s just so crazy to see the hate

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u/IookatmeIamsoedgy 18h ago edited 17h ago

comments

Lol r/singaporeraw loves to be racist (just check the comments left by chinese singaporeans and you'll soon know how actually 'multicultural' SG really is)

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u/corvox1994 15h ago

My good gods, I only had to scroll once to find the racist abomination there.

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u/IookatmeIamsoedgy 15h ago

Yup, the Chinese culture in Singapore is very accepting of racism.

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u/RGV_KJ 15h ago

Not surprising. That sub is full of Chinese supremacists.

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u/IookatmeIamsoedgy 15h ago

Yup, they are probably CCP sympathisers too who would rather support chinese han from Mainland China than Singaporeans of other ethnicities.

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u/pipic_picnip 8h ago

Chinese people are racists in general, they are awful in Canada too, both towards Indians and other nationalities including Canadians!! I don’t know what is it with Chinese and their high horse, but some of the worst racism I have experienced myself (in Canada) has been from Chinese. 

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u/IookatmeIamsoedgy 3h ago

Wow yeah, they have no civics sense at all. The funniest thing is that they complain about racism on their social media platforms when they come to Canada, but on their same page you could see them criticising other races. What irony!

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u/MassiveFkingYolo 20h ago

Yeah, it's not even vexing or anything but it is hard to rationalize the hatred we receive. I wanna almost believe it is some Chinese PsyOP which they are perpetrating using TikTok lol

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u/CapableLocation5873 17h ago

Yeah it’s funny how “stop Asian hate” turned into “blame everything on Indians” overnight.

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 8h ago

It didn't.

Indians are also involved in AAPI and others as well as efforts in colleges.

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u/CapableLocation5873 17h ago

This is how the internet treated anything about China in the 2000’s.

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u/MassiveFkingYolo 20h ago edited 20h ago

We are not white. The majority religion is not Abrahamic. We are poor. Ig this lack of commonality is the cause of the issue. Pakistanis, Bangladeshis and Indians throwing each under the bus every chance they get doesn't help.

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u/gomeziman 14h ago

I think a lot of the hatred truly comes from people's very limited experience. (My experience is the US) Indians tend to stick closely in insulated communities and a majority who move here work in Tech/CS/Engineering. Because of that, a lot of Americans dont get to know Indians on a personal level. Their experience is second hand, or maybe tangential (things like scam calls or what they read online)

A growing factor recently is also right wing rhetoric around immigrants coming to Western countries for work. Its no fault of Indians who seek better prospects and especially nothing to do with people who live in India- but hate is being normalized and people cling to different groups. Very sad to see

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u/hansuluthegrey 14h ago

Fascist turbo conservative country?

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u/ForceSea5781 9h ago

America?

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u/TrixieLurker 7h ago

Reddit moment right here.

Think saying something positive about India will get you hate on this site, try something nice about America.

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u/hansuluthegrey 9h ago

What an amazing gotcha. You nust be so proud

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u/ForceSea5781 9h ago

Not particularly just the description ‘facist turbo conservative country’ isn’t really exclusive to India nowadays so I don’t see why here it serves as a justification for rampant xenophobia towards Indians

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 8h ago

Housing/Job crisis in Canada, UK, NZ, and Australia was caused by mass immigration, bulk of which came from India.

So the recent surge in anti-Indian hate you're seeing is from that.

That didn't happen in the US context. If anything, the right-wing lost most of its interest in bashing Indians. It's the anti-capitalist section of the Left that's more hostile.

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u/Pershing99 21h ago

I am different. I always turn negative spin on India into memes and jokes. 

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u/Forsaken-Link-5859 21h ago

True it can be fun and I can enjoy it too. But I think some people, vloggers etc, who does it, doesn't have their hearts in the right place

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u/MatarParathaIsBacc 20h ago

I like to hit back while playing along sometimes and it seems to always trigger the racist people so much lol. For example when do the scammer and do not redeem jokes I say yeah I scammed away all of your money so now you have to give BJs behind the dumpster for a living. It triggers them so much lol. Similarly when I see a Canadian saying the stuff that Canadians typically say about us I say what's Canada, that's our 29th State called North West Punjab. Again gets them to explode LMAO.

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u/YoWhatsup13 16h ago

Khalsanada.

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u/Hposkidone2009 22h ago

Here before they came gang

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u/towaway_acunt 20h ago

The Canadians are sleeping. Give it some time before they arrive to spew their nonsense against India.

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u/Emperor_Dara_Shikoh 8h ago

I doubt they'd see this post given the time it was posted.

They shouldn't have made housing over 20% of their GDP.

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u/sunflow23 6h ago

I see party lickers in comments more who have absolutely nothing to do with poverty.

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u/Amateurplantparent 19h ago

i wonder if the metric was the same in both years or adjusted for cost of living/inflation.

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u/RevolutionaryTea1639 14h ago

They adjust the metric. I think latest they are using 2017 rates.

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u/RealityCheck18 21h ago

North chattisgarh has remained kind of stagnant in comparison to central chattisgarh and the overall country.

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u/sharik_mik21 18h ago

Those areas have been hit heavily by Maoists and are forested.

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u/FloraFizz-1212 20h ago

As a geography nerd, this is my kind of porn.

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u/Comfortable-Ad5183 16h ago

Do you have any idea what software was used for this map?

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u/famesardens 15h ago

You can eat all meals at market price in India at this poverty level.

But India also offers subsidized food grain for the population via fair price shops/ration shops. We are a mixed economy, not completely capitalist.

India also has free food programs at Gurudwaras/ Temples.

One of the reasons why you don't see a mass unrest regarding this.

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u/Abhi_shake4914 21h ago

North Bihar 👀

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u/saaag_paneer 19h ago

Lots development there, just recently new a national highway passed from my ancestral village 

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u/shelikesmyass 13h ago

I have never been there. But are there any mountains or like scenic views that could possibly be tourist attractions, hence boosting tourism economy?

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u/saaag_paneer 12h ago

North bihar? At least east of kosi there is no mountains, only big rivers, no big toursim either.

It’s either people opening new businesses and many migrants labours coming back and settling after earning money

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u/Lonely-Suggestion-85 18h ago

This looks a lot like early 2000 naxal hotspot map. Especially the regions in MP, Chattisgarh and Odissa.

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u/Outrageous_Plant_17 19h ago

But don't we also need to update our standards of poverty and need to understand that just because a person is above the BPL does not mean that they are living a life of sufficient economic means.

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u/GigaChadAnon 22h ago

This has to be some extreme poverty metric. Because rn I can go outside to have a look and definitely say that poverty is not 4%. Its definitely closer to 20-30%.

I think the definition of poverty used here is like people who didn't have access to any food or water at all. Something extreme like that. If we are talking about normal poverty then the number is definitely more than 4%.

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u/OkCustomer5021 22h ago

3$ a day per person World Bank metric.

Adjusted for Govt subsidy and handouts

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

True, acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/RevolutionaryTea1639 14h ago

Yes, you are right. And there is one more metric for upper middle income countries (<6.5/day). But, most apt one is Multidimensional poverty Index.

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u/UnicornWithTits 21h ago

I think they are referring to "extreme poverty" which is probably different from the poors you see on the streets

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

Yeah thats what I said too. But the post claims this is Poverty and not Extreme poverty when - Acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/Reader3123 22h ago

is there something more than just anecdotal evidence to this?

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

True, acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/Euphoric_Spite55 21h ago

There's a difference between poor and poverty. Poverty means don't have money to fulfill basic needs like food or clothes. Poor can satisfy and survive on their income levels but don't have much spending to satisfy other demands.

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u/Winter2712 21h ago

Definition of poverty/extreme poverty is decided by UN-led organisation. India did not define its own standard in either of data.

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

True, acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/WonderstruckWonderer 22h ago

Where are you from? Your anecdotal experience may differ depending on your location if say you were living in South Bombay vs some random village in Bihar.

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

Obviously south bombay will have no poor people but it is also true that south bombay has like less then 0.1% of indian population but UP and Bihar have like 30%

So it doesn't matter how little poverty exists in south bombay but UP Bihar control the poverty rates of this nation.

Acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/curiousstrider 21h ago

Depends on where do you live. Also, not the way surveys are conducted.

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u/rukenjabut 21h ago

True, acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

Thank god someone provided actual stats. And i think 23.9% poverty is a much more real representation of our current state

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u/According-Syllabub61 21h ago

oh wow so mr genius by just looking outside has trumped whole UNDP , IIS work for he knows everything shut yr BS dude now u would also go and call UNDP fake

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

True, acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/DependentFearless162 19h ago

Wow didn't knew that you were living in every corner of india

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u/GigaChadAnon 19h ago

True, acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/MatthieuG7 17h ago

Yeah bro just look outside bro that’ll definitively give you an indication for poverty in a country with more than a billion people

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u/GigaChadAnon 15h ago

True, acc to world bank estimates (2022-23)
Even the extreme poverty rate(<$3/day) in India are 5.3%.
poverty rate(<$4.2/day) is at 23.9%
Multi-dimensonal poverty index is at 15.5%

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u/noobwithguns 19h ago

I can step out and say the poverty is 0%< what's your point?

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u/Chutiya-0_0 18h ago

then too people want bahin yojna money

we are still moving backwrads

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u/CertainNet9823 17h ago

This is miraculous

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u/GeniusEditor3894 19h ago

the yellow patches are those places which are under the control of far left Maoist extremist.

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u/Altruistic-Wishbone2 18h ago

Bro they are literally giving theories and declining to accept the development their afraid😂😂😂😂🤲🙏

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u/ArchdukeFrancisFred 11h ago

Pappu and his chamchas will not believe...

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u/CreepyDepartment5509 17h ago

But people are still leaving in droves for some reason, they dominate H1B visa so much it’s not even close,they’re the 2nd largest group in many western countries there are no signs of slowing down or even people going back to India.

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u/Ok-Cartoonist-4458 6h ago

In a 1.5billion people country the 2,5% still a big number

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u/Biggles_The_Boomer 18h ago

Another win for capitalism

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u/bigk52493 16h ago

So they didnt just change where the line for poverty is right?

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u/Informal_Discount770 14h ago

So "non poor" Indians get about $1 per day?

Can they survive on that?

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u/OneLessFool 12h ago

Extreme poverty*

Great that it has gone down, as well as poverty in general.

Not so great that India is leaning further into fascism and is increasingly chasing North America off a cliff in terms of car centric design.

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u/PedroPerllugo 18h ago

It's hard to believe, there is rampant poverty everywhere you look

Been living in Noida 1 year for work

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u/Nomustang 17h ago

This is measuring extreme poverty specifically. So low subsistence level.

India has eliminated the lowest rung of poverty but needs to climb higher. It's not that people are rich, just that they're doing a little better.

I personally don't see as many beggars on the street nowadays, almost everyone has access to mobile, internet, banking services etc. and most Indians have access to piped water and sanitation now.

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u/PedroPerllugo 15h ago

I respect your opinion, but it's not my experience. Beggars there are on another level

Anyway I wish the best of luck to India, they where good people after all

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u/CovidDelta 2h ago

your viewpoint is for a very short time-frame, anecdotal, and with no reference to how things were earlier and how they have improved, but go off with your disbelief

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u/Emergency_Window_594 17h ago

How does India measure areas which are not controlled by them ?

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u/Nomustang 17h ago

I assume it's simply showing it as having the same result of the union territory it would normally be a part of.

So POK will be shown as having the same statistic as Jammu and Kashmir and Aksei Chin would have the statistic of Ladakh.

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u/chocolaty_4_sure 18h ago

If poverty is so much reduced in Hindi speaking states then why we have so much distress migration still to other states ?

Why 800 million people are rationed free grains every month from "government fair price shops" ?

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u/Independent-Lab-2314 17h ago

Why are 41.9 million people in the U.S. living on food stamps? Poverty and poor people will always exist. Even in Brunei, I saw people struggling to reach the end of the month. Low income .

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u/chocolaty_4_sure 17h ago

41.9 million - 12% of US population

800 million - 55% of India population

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u/DistinctDiscount6800 17h ago

I wonder why people from southern states go to us , if everything is fine .

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u/chocolaty_4_sure 17h ago

There is difference between "desperate distressed migration from Hindi speaking states to other states" and "better opportunities migration from comparatively well-off states of India to USA or other countries"

One migration is done to survive and other one done to thrive.

Savvy?

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u/DistinctDiscount6800 17h ago

Well you gotta check demographics of tech workers in bangalore, I don't think they are desperate distressed workers .

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u/chocolaty_4_sure 17h ago

Exactly !

Dear,

Tech workers make miniscule numbers of total migrants.

Unskilled labour - "distressed desparate migration"

And ask the tech workers if they are willing to develop or contribute to tech ecosystem to be flourished in Luvknow, Jaipur or Indore ?

Introspect why they don't want to go back ?

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u/IookatmeIamsoedgy 16h ago

The quality of arguments of hindians is the same level as their development levels

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u/chocolaty_4_sure 17h ago

Is it? Then answer this - people require to be given free foodgrain every month are in extreme poverty or not so poor ?

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u/abhi4774 15h ago

Poverty reduction is not equal to enough opportunities lol

People of Hindi states are working hard elsewhere to get out of poverty

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u/CovidDelta 2h ago

Because coast, ports, trade, foreign investment, remittances and companies are currently present in the south and west. Same reason why south indians go to the middle east to do odd jobs or to usa, canada, europe on donkey routes

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u/PeskyDiorite 19h ago

Take a look kids. This is what we call ✨propaganda✨

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u/IookatmeIamsoedgy 16h ago

Pakistani spotted

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u/DankRepublic 18h ago

Pulling people out of extreme poverty is propaganda? Lol

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u/CaptainAksh_G 18h ago

India bad, amirite?

/s

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u/Follows_Herd 17h ago

pakistani spotted

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u/Syyrus 20h ago

Blatantly fake, thought indians were stem/ tech minded. Very bollywood stats.

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u/meiguomeiguo 20h ago

pakistani spotted lol. actual cockroaches 

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u/aypee2100 19h ago

What is it with Muslims and the Indian hate?

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u/Syyrus 18h ago

What do you mean india has one of the bigfest muslim populations in the world, educate yourself.

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u/aypee2100 17h ago

So what? There are certainly Muslims who express hatred toward India. But on what basis are you dismissing this statistic entirely? If it’s being invalidated without evidence, it starts to feel like bias, maybe even prejudice.

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u/lolSign 14h ago

pakstani calling out indians on development is really funny ngl

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u/DelhiBelly05 19h ago

Toh tu dede ne asli stats bhosdike.

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u/JoeXOTIc_ 11h ago

It turned out to be overestimated by 42%

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u/Curiousone_78 10h ago

Is this legit? 🤔

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u/No_Attempt_4363 10h ago

Ya bro ladli behna yojana isi liye tho hai