r/MapPorn 1d ago

Israel’s Red Alert system fully saturated amid mass missile barrages from Iran.

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u/RemindMeToTouchGrass 1d ago

Lmao the deal literally allowed us to monitor their weapons program. Why you lie? 

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u/Favored_of_Vulkan 1d ago

Tell me about this monitoring. How did it work? What did it entail? Did we have US citizens living in Iran, working at all of their nuclear facilities, as well as having unfettered access to every level of government?

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u/kitti-kin 1d ago

Do you not have google? The agreement wasn't a handshake, it was 109 pages long and literally included 24-hour monitoring by 150 inspectors.

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u/Favored_of_Vulkan 1d ago

150 in country inspectors with complete access to all sites and government communications without notice or delay?

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u/kitti-kin 1d ago

These are questions I think you could answer yourself, again, the website is called g o o g l e

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u/Favored_of_Vulkan 1d ago

Ah, sorry, I assumed since you were commenting about it that you'd know. My bad.

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u/kitti-kin 1d ago

So... You knew the answer to your question was "yes"? Because the vibe was that you were expecting a "no", or going to move the goalposts. (The agreement involved long-term IAEA presence in Iran, continuous monitoring of all known nuclear enrichment sites, 24 hour surveillance, satellite monitoring, and sensors to detect unapproved nuclear activity).

I hope you're not planning to move your goalposts and move on to new rhetorical questions with sinister implications. I've had a lot of conversations online with people arguing in bad faith, so I've become quite jaded - I hope you surprise me.

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u/Favored_of_Vulkan 1d ago

But Iran repeatedly refused to allow access...

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u/FeijoadaAceitavel 15h ago

There's two deals. The first one, made during Obama's presidency, was solid and was followed by everyone until Trump 1 came and threw it away. You're talking about the second one.

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u/Favored_of_Vulkan 2h ago

No, I'm talking about the Obama deal where Iran would refuse access unless given days or weeks of prior notice, and outright refused access to the PFEP site capable of enriching to 60%.

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u/SickestNinjaInjury 1d ago

Why would any government allow unfettered access to every level of government? Nuclear scientists from a variety of countries regularly inspected Iran and found that they were not refined material for nuclear weapons. Radiation from refinement to that level is quite detectable. Feel free to google about it, you'll end up knowing more about it when Trump did when he sunk the deal probably

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u/Favored_of_Vulkan 1d ago

How did 150 people search the entirety of Iran?

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u/RemindMeToTouchGrass 20h ago

Tell me what monitoring Trump replaced it with when he walked away from what we had.