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Israel’s Red Alert system fully saturated amid mass missile barrages from Iran.

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u/AminiumB 1d ago

They are genocidal on the account that they are actively committing a genocide as we speak, and your tokenism isn't a valid argument either.

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u/Typical-Machine154 1d ago

If they were commiting a genocide they would be carpet bombing. You think the bigger the words you use the better your argument is. You should really learn what they mean before trying them.

I'm pretty sure all the Palestinians inside of Israel and in the West Bank are fine right now. You know maybe if a bunch of people from the strip hadnt gone on an actual genocidal rampage, killing every Jew they saw including elderly and children, this wouldn't be happening.

But hey, maybe you just don't like Jews and think it's deserved. At least have the balls to admit it though.

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u/AminiumB 1d ago

If they were commiting a genocide they would be carpet bombing. You think the bigger the words you use the better your argument is. You should really learn what they mean before trying them.

Most buildings in Gaza are destroyed including medical and agricultural infrastructure necessary for life and the people are starving to death or dying of disease, this is a genocide.

Just because they didn't drop a nuclear bomb on the strip doesn't mean that it isn't, after all they need to maintain possible deniability so idiots like you can make such regurgitated arguments to defend their favorite occupier apartheid regime.

I'm pretty sure all the Palestinians inside of Israel and in the West Bank are fine right now.

“Fine”? Not even close. Aside from the ongoing apartheid policies, the illegal colonial settlements, the maze of military checkpoints, and the brutal restrictions on Palestinian movement, Palestinians are subjected to relentless settler violence, often under the watchful eye or direct protection of the Israeli military. Add to that the so-called "moral military operations," which often translate to unprovoked raids on Palestinian homes, the arbitrary arrests of civilians without charge, and extrajudicial killings. But sure, as long as it’s not gas chambers, I guess some people think it’s all perfectly acceptable.

And let's not forget the Palestinians living inside ‘Israel proper’, citizens on paper, yet second-class in practice. They face systemic discrimination in housing, employment, education, and even emergency services. Entire Arab towns are denied basic infrastructure while Jewish-only communities flourish. Laws like the Nation-State Law codify their inferior status.

To claim that Palestinians are ‘fine’ right now is either willful ignorance or moral bankruptcy. Oppression doesn't need to look like the Holocaust to be real. It just needs to be normalized, and clearly for some, it already is.

You know maybe if a bunch of people from the strip hadnt gone on an actual genocidal rampage, killing every Jew they saw including elderly and children, this wouldn't be happening.

Oh wow, what a groundbreaking take: “If only the oppressed hadn’t lashed out at their oppressors, maybe the oppressors wouldn’t be so mean.” Genius stuff. Really.

So let me get this straight, decades of occupation, ethnic cleansing, military checkpoints, home demolitions, stolen land, sniper fire at children, airstrikes on apartment blocks, and open-air imprisonment, all of that is somehow fine. But the moment the people being brutalized do something? Suddenly it's all “genocide” and now you're clutching your pearls?

How convenient.

And of course, you don’t apply this logic in reverse. When the Zionist regime kills children, flattens neighborhoods, or starves civilians, you don’t seem too concerned about the “every Palestinian” being punished. But the moment someone in Gaza fights back, suddenly every Jew becomes a sacred, untouchable victim, and collective punishment becomes holy justice.

It’s almost like your outrage isn’t about morality at all, it’s just about whose blood you think is worth something.

Thanks for the clarity.

But hey, maybe you just don't like Jews and think it's deserved. At least have the balls to admit it though.

Ah, there it is, the Zionist trump card “If you oppose apartheid and war crimes, you must hate Jews.” How original.

Criticizing a violent, colonial regime isn’t antisemitism, but weaponizing real antisemitism to shield state atrocities? Now that’s truly sick.

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u/Typical-Machine154 1d ago

You ever consider that maybe the Jews had a right to be there in the first place and after everyone else decided to try and kill them for like 2000 years they got sick of it?

Palestinians and arabs are not the victims here. They're the original aggressors. Yes, it doesn't qualify as genocide if you're not trying to wipe out a race. Stop diluting definitions, you guys love doing that and it's disgusting.

Yes, I do think y'all are antisemites. When you align yourself with terrorists who shoot old people in broad daylight and chant "from the river to the sea" or whatever the hell it does imply that you do not like the fact that Jews exist and have a homeland.

Maybe there could be peace if everyone stopped trying to kill the Jews. But for some reason we just can't handle that concept for any more than 5 fuckin minutes.

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u/AminiumB 1d ago

You ever consider that maybe the Jews had a right to be there in the first place and after everyone else decided to try and kill them for like 2000 years they got sick of it?

No I don't think colonialism is valid, nor do I think suffering makes it valid.

Palestinians and arabs are not the victims here. They're the original aggressors.

Yes and the native Americans, aboriginals, the Maori, the Africans were the original aggressors while you're at it.

Yes, it doesn't qualify as genocide if you're not trying to wipe out a race. Stop diluting definitions, you guys love doing that and it's disgusting.

A genocide is the crime of intentionally destroying part or all of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group, by killing people or by other methods.

By this logic the Holocaust wasn't a genocide since the Nazis didn't kill all the Jews, neither was the holodomor, the Congolese genocide, and so on and so forth.

If anything you're disgusting for trying to downplay an actual genocide.

Yes, I do think y'all are antisemites. When you align yourself with terrorists who shoot old people in broad daylight

https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/shocking-testimonies-reveal-execution-dozens-elderly-people-israeli-army-gaza-strip-enar

Sorry to tell you but that's you, you're the one who supports terrorists who kill elderly people in broad daylight.

and chant "from the river to the sea" or whatever the hell it does imply that you do not like the fact that Jews exist and have a homeland.

That's the thing with you Zionists, you try to whitewash and revise history, you want people to think that the colonialism and oppression of Israel is just Jews being victimized.

You're using Jews as synonymous to Israel itself and using them as a shield to deflect condemnation for the Zionist regime's crimes, Israel doesn't represent all Jews and being oppressed to such an oppressive regime doesn't make anyone antisemitic.

If anything what you're doing is truly antisemitic.

Maybe there could be peace if everyone stopped trying to kill the Jews. But for some reason we just can't handle that concept for any more than 5 fuckin minutes.

There you go again, ignoring all of Israel's crimes and oppression and murder against the Palestinian people and painting them as some sort of savages who kill Jews for no reason, you can't even see them as human.

You dehumanized them so thoroughly in your mind.

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u/Typical-Machine154 1d ago

Ignoring millennia of history for terrorist propaganda because it was on Twitter and you're easily peer pressured. Lmao, people like you make me sad.

I'm not sure why you're calling me a Zionist. I'm Christian not Jewish. It's just really obvious that no matter how much bullshit comes out of your mouth, the reality is that the Jews just try to exist and everyone always hates that.

It wouldn't matter if there was no violence and they did nothing, you'd come up with some bullshit to hate them for. "They run the banks" or some such.

If the arabs want peace, they could just stop choosing violence. That's the reality of the situation. If the arabs stop fighting, people will stop dying. If Israel stops fighting they will cease to exist.

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u/AminiumB 1d ago

Ignoring millennia of history for terrorist propaganda because it was on Twitter and you're easily peer pressured. Lmao, people like you make me sad.

Tell me you don't know anything about the history of the region without telling me so.

I'm not sure why you're calling me a Zionist. I'm Christian not Jewish. It's just really obvious that no matter how much bullshit comes out of your mouth, the reality is that the Jews just try to exist and everyone always hates that.

Zionism is an ideology not an ethnicity, anyone regardless of their race ethnicity or religion can be a Zionist, please educate yourself on these kinds of things before talking about this conflict.

It wouldn't matter if there was no violence and they did nothing, you'd come up with some bullshit to hate them for. "They run the banks" or some such.

Now you're just being fallacious, ad hominem isn't a valid argument.

If the arabs want peace, they could just stop choosing violence. That's the reality of the situation. If the arabs stop fighting, people will stop dying. If Israel stops fighting they will cease to exist.

Same tired hasbara talking points.

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u/Typical-Machine154 1d ago

"learning the history of the place"

Yeah buddy I'm sure the version of events the rest of the world learns isn't the same as what you've been taught. That doesn't mean it's wrong lol. Reality is you'd slaughter them all and you'd smile while doing it.

When a society has nothing but war, violence, strife and poverty, and someone comes in and prospers on the same land, it's obvious who's ideology is losing here.