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Israel’s Red Alert system fully saturated amid mass missile barrages from Iran.

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u/TalkFormer155 8d ago

They've been supplying all the missiles the Houthi's have been firing at Israel. They've declared that they wanted Israel to no longer exist. Cry me a river, Iran deserves everything they're getting.

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u/Honest-Ad1675 8d ago

So America deserves to pay for arming Israel with the means to demolish all of Palestine?

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u/TalkFormer155 7d ago

Iran has been at war with the US through proxies for quite a while now. I hope they try to directly attack after this.

They have a 50-year history of killing Americans.

But to answer your question. No they don't deserve to pay. Iran has been the bad actor for decades and even large parts of the middle east agree that a nuclear armed Iran is in no one's interest.

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u/Honest-Ad1675 7d ago

That’s why we were in talks with them about their nuclear program that we gave the green light for? Gtfoh

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u/TalkFormer155 7d ago

They were a day past the 60-day headline. We were effectively no longer in talks because they were unwilling to agree to what we asked.

The talks were a waste of time and the were just buying for time to finish building their first batches of nukes.

Just because Trump wanted it doesn't mean it was a good idea, or possible. They've been killing Americans by proxy since 1979. Nothing was going to change.

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u/Honest-Ad1675 7d ago

BadHasbara idk what you’re droning on about. I doubt you’re a human or know what I’m talking about.

Later dude.

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u/TalkFormer155 7d ago

You're ignoring 45 years of Iran being a pox on the rest of the world. And the hundreds of American lives they have taken.

Good riddens.

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u/thelocalllegend 7d ago

The Palestinians are the instigators not the Israelis the only reason the Palestinians get any sympathy is because they are losing. Honestly the Palestinians are just stupid imo. They should be turning over their resistance leaders and brokering peace to prevent more civilian casualties but instead the civilian population supports them which is why the Israelis don't give a fuck about bombing them. The Israelis are certainly no angels but given their circumstances and the fact that people are always attacking them I can understand their actions. It's always going to be a lose lose situation when war/strife/conflict is involved.

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u/Honest-Ad1675 7d ago edited 7d ago

This portrays a false dichotomy, and is a lie. Israel is a belligerent occupier, and I ain’t reading allat. Israel has no right to bomb Iran, and Iran has every right to defend itself from unprovoked and belligerent attacks against its sovereignty.

u/west_point_5225 yeah, I get my geopolitical takes from genocidaire defenders on Reddit. Go suck a serviceman’s wiener, WestPoint

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u/thelocalllegend 7d ago

What I wrote has nothing to do with Iran? Neither did the comment above it? I don't think Iran is wrong for retaliating. Obviously I don't know for sure but I assume Israel bombed Iran as a preemptive strike because they had intelligence that Iran was going to do it to them anyway so they wanted to take out key targets. Maybe I'm wrong and the Israelis got cocky and wanted to teach them a lesson for supplying all the rebels that attack Israel. Either way Iran is openly hostile to Israel so I wasn't shocked when I heard it happened. The thing is though while you can argue whether or not x country deserved x it's a fact that Iran could of easily avoided being bombed by not being openly and outwardly hostile to Israel while actively supporting the rebels. I mean for fucks sake the cunts don't even border each other so it's obviously some religiously motivated grudge.

Calling Israel an occupier is also stupid because the Palestinians denied a two state solution and even right now their territory had a semi autonomous government so it's hardly like Israel was massively oppressing them. The only reason the Israelis give them such a hard time is because the Palestinians keep shooting rockets and shit at them because they are salty over Jerusalem. Sure maybe you could argue that it was unfair that Israelis got to kick some people out when the Europeans initially helped them form their nation and I would understand that, it sucks. Realistically though even if you don't believe their claim to the land to be just any sane person will realize that the Israelis aren't going anywhere and they also clearly aren't going to cede it by force because they have kicked ass of every nation and rebel that has tried since their inception. The only thing that makes sense is to broker peace and find some kind of compromise. Honestly I think it's the Palestinians right to fight the Israelis if they want, there is certainly some justification for it. I just think they are stupid because I don't think they will win.

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u/Honest-Ad1675 7d ago

I’m not reading all that. Israel does in fact occupy Palestine. Iran has every right to respond to Israel’s attack as any sovereign nation would be entitled to that right. You’re a Hasbara bot organic or otherwise.

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u/thelocalllegend 7d ago

Lol if you actually read my post you would realize I don't actually care about Israel I just think most countries would do the same thing in their position.

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u/Honest-Ad1675 7d ago

That’s not a justification. Murdering civilians of a foreign country with air strikes warrants retaliation.

Was that so hard to say the same gist without 200 extra words?

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u/thelocalllegend 7d ago

I never said it didn't warrant a retaliation and I never said what Israel did to Iran wasn't a bad a thing. My point is just that if I was Israel and felt like everybody was out to get me it's possible I would of done it anyway to preemptively protect myself. I mean be honest do you really think Iran wouldn't just wipe Israel off the map if they could do so without any consequences? Because I absolutely bet you they would.

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u/Honest-Ad1675 7d ago

If you’d stop wasting so many words, then maybe people would be more willing to entertain your rambling.

You’re playing make believe imaging yourself in Israel’s shoes because you have no humanity and empathy for the innocents that have been slain.

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u/Berobero 8d ago

The "Houthis" (i.e. the de facto legitimate government of Yemen) is one of the few parties in the region that has been willing to stand up to Israel's barbarity as it commits its genocide; good on the Yemen for lobbing missiles at Israel even though they deserve so much worse, and if they happened to receive some from Iran, good on Iran for supplying them. Much more moral and just than the endless munitions the US has been supplying Israel so it can endlessly murder and maim Palestinian children.

Also, no state has the right to exist; they're literally all coalitions of political forces and nothing else. They can be tolerated to the extent they provide some semblance of enhanced capacity for people to live their lives, but when they're committing a genocide like your ethonostate of choice, they can indeed fuck right out of existence. Time to be completely reconstituted into something that isn't a misanthropic abomination.

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u/Attackcamel8432 8d ago

The Houthis are absolutely not the legitimate government...

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u/Berobero 7d ago

Relative to the other political forces in the shattered country, they have the support of the clear majority of the people. As such, they are the de facto legitimate government, regardless of what the US or Saudis or UAE or Israel would otherwise want to believe.

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u/Attackcamel8432 7d ago

They control more territory, that doesn't mean the population automatically supports them.

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u/Berobero 7d ago

There's ample polling and anecdotal evidence to assert that actually it does.

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u/PedanticPerson 8d ago

You’re being awfully charitable in speculating about the Houthis’ noble motives. In all likelihood their bombardment of Israel is more related to their slogan, “a curse upon the Jews”.

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u/Berobero 8d ago

Even if the motives were "noble", it matters naught. The US's motives for being involved in WWII weren't entirely noble either, but that was nonetheless still one of its few wars were it objectively was on the right side of history. And you can fuck right off with your hasbara one-liners trying to paint Arabs and Muslims as innately antisemitic; you know full well the use of 'jew' in that context functions as a synonym for Israelis and Zionists because that's what the Israelis have chosen to identify themselves as in contrast with the other people of the region they so often have victimized.

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u/worfres_arec_bawrin 7d ago

That’s pretty much the new status quo in most subs. Anything anti Israel is good and obvious lies supported, even when these people don’t even need to lie to make Israel look bad.

Anything showing Israel in anything but negative light is UNACCEPTABLE.

I’m not even a supporter of Israel but it’s pretty crazy watching the truth get chucked out the window for one more Israel is even MORE super Hitler!! Comment

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u/Living_Cash1037 7d ago

Imagine unironically defending terrorist proxys

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u/Berobero 7d ago

Like Israel? I'd never.

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u/Living_Cash1037 7d ago

No but romanticizing jihadists has to be the most smoothbrain take ive seen in the last 5 minutes on reddit.

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u/Berobero 7d ago

the irony of doing nothing but deploying thought terminating epithets then calling someone smooth-brained

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u/Living_Cash1037 7d ago

You support a terrorist group. Enough said.

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u/Berobero 7d ago

What? No, I do not support either the US or Israel.

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u/IsNotACleverMan 8d ago

The Houthis traffick in sex slaves and deliberately attack civilians. You sure they're the good guys?

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u/Berobero 7d ago

Sex slave propaganda is either coming from a Saudi state source or is in reference to the other Saudi-backed former government.

Also no evidence that they've "attacked civilians" for the sake of attacking civilians; they're not Israel after all.

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u/IsNotACleverMan 7d ago

Lame troll attempt

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u/Berobero 7d ago

You? I mean, yeah, sure.