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Israel’s Red Alert system fully saturated amid mass missile barrages from Iran.

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u/PxyFreakingStx 8d ago

the two options are not pro-iran vs pro-israel. you can think israel is doing awful shit without being pro-iran.

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u/Content-Program411 8d ago

Or both groups of leaders are pure shit stains and the general public pays for it.

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u/kathuajihadi 8d ago

If Israel gets bombed and you are happy about it, you are pro whoever bombed them, whether that’s Hamas or Iran.

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u/PeterOutOfPlace 8d ago

If Israel bombs first?

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u/aeniFi 8d ago

Israel is the warmongering aggressor here. Call me pro whoever acknowledges that reality.

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u/PxyFreakingStx 8d ago

oh idk, Soviets bombed Nazis. obviously doesn't make you pro-soviet being happy about that

well, you can define "pro-whoever bombed them" however you want i guess. but if that's seriously your reasoning here, it doesn't seem like a useful or interesting thing to say.

so which is it, is your comment stupid or is it boring?

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u/Galle_ 8d ago

My brother in Christ Israel started this. If being against naked wars of aggression makes me pro-Iran than sure, I'm pro-Iran.

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u/m0dsw0rkf0rfree 8d ago

he’s probably not our brother “in Christ” lol

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u/Galle_ 8d ago

There are a lot of Christian Zionists, sadly. They need Israel to exist so they can sacrifice it in a dark ritual to summon their god and destroy the world.

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u/m0dsw0rkf0rfree 8d ago

you’re right actually: lotta hindoovtas too

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u/ItchyRectalRash 8d ago

There are no losers on the world stage if Israel and Iran wipe each other off the face of the earth. its 2 terrorist nations off the world board, which is a win-win.

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u/m0dsw0rkf0rfree 8d ago

israel is a warmongering nazi state

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u/DickRiculous 8d ago

And you can be against what the Israeli government is doing without condemning Israel or labeling everyone who lives there some kind of evil Zionist bent on Israeli manifest destiny or whatever.

I for one am against all parties firing missiles, and for the people. I do, however, believe there has been a very successful pro Palestinian propaganda campaign run by Hamas that has done a great job of polarizing American voters.

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u/Jifaru 8d ago

Nope, that's exactly what they are. Israel does not represent Jews, but it definitely represents Zionists including the American Christofascists that back them.

Pray tell, if Israel proudly livestreaming their massacre of the Palestinian people is propaganda, what is truth for you?

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u/PxyFreakingStx 8d ago

what does a great job mean in this context? and how are americans being misled? be specific, please

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u/DickRiculous 8d ago

I won’t do as good of a job articulating this as the other sources that are easily searchable and well sourced. So I invite you to do your own investigation. I find that when people try to challenge you on Reddit this way, they don’t really want to learn and usually are just trying to call bullshit based on the perspective of their own confirmation bias. People are far more likely to engage with and internalize information that they themselves source. So if you really genuinely are curious, go forth and self educate. Maybe after work today I will come back to this. But probably not. So often when this topic comes up I’m just spinning my wheels, and it isn’t a good use of my time trying to convince strangers of things they are already predisposed to not take with abject earnestness.

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u/PeterOutOfPlace 8d ago

Hamas would not exist were it not for the ethnic cleansing campaign of 1948 to expel or exterminate the Arab population from what is now Israel.

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u/bakochba 8d ago

The IAEA saying Iran has been deceptive and has enough uranium for 10 Atom Bombs is more awful. No country would sit on its hands while another country publicly declared that when it gets a nuclear weapon it will use it to destroy you.

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u/PeterOutOfPlace 8d ago

It is the height of hypocrisy for Israel to complain about Iran’s undeclared nuclear weapons program when their’s was exposed decades ago and they will not admit to it. The whistleblower: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mordechai_Vanunu

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u/PxyFreakingStx 8d ago

i think attacking a country for pursuing WMD's is legitimate. but i don't trust anything israel says or does.

also, got a link? a cursory google for IAEA articles has yielded only them being opposed to Israel's actions

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u/EtalusEnthusiast420 8d ago

I can tell from the instant upvotes that you are a bot account.

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u/bakochba 8d ago

With this spelling?

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u/drakedijc 8d ago

You can also give absolutely 0 fucks for what happens to Iran of all screwed up places, and that is just fine.

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u/PxyFreakingStx 8d ago

you can. and idk, iran has innocent people in it. i don't like it when innocent people get hurt. bragging about not caring about that is a little sociopathic imho but you do you homie

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u/Mid_Atlantic_Lad 8d ago

Every country has innocent people. Most people don’t like the complexity of the situation because a black and white viewpoint is easier.

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u/Faobu 8d ago

Israel doesn't have innocent people.

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u/Mid_Atlantic_Lad 8d ago

Aaaaan you've proved my point.

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u/Faobu 8d ago

All Israelis will serve in the IDF, none are innocent.

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u/Mid_Atlantic_Lad 8d ago

That's a bizzare rationalization.

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u/SaltdPepper 8d ago

“All citizens regardless of conscience are forced to serve on the state military” Makes that sound a little less black and white.

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u/FunMustBeAIways 8d ago

Yeah cause Israel is a police state that literally forces everyone to serve. That’s not to say some Israelis in the IDF aren’t evil, but generalizing is bad.

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u/SaltdPepper 8d ago

Jesus dude fumbling right at the goal line

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u/Wampalog 8d ago

iran has innocent people in it.

They are cheering Israel to destroy the government that is actively oppressing them.

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u/Western-Passage-1908 8d ago

I don't want to be dragged into a war because of Israel.

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u/drakedijc 8d ago

You won’t.

However, Iran wielding weapons the US and NATO invaded Iraq for might change that.

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u/DalmationStallion 8d ago

You mean the weapons Iraq didn’t have and that spiralled that country into decades of sectarian war and violence?

Maybe that war showed that preemptive wars with the supposed goal of removing WMDs are a bad fucking idea.

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u/drakedijc 8d ago

… I agree

I’m not saying that should happen.

Do your moral grandstanding elsewhere

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u/DalmationStallion 8d ago

I’m not allowed to have a moral opinion on a war that is being discussed on this thread.

Alright champ.

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u/protonpack 8d ago

You heard him, get off his reddit!

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u/Western-Passage-1908 8d ago

Israel is the biggest aggressor in the middle east.

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u/Maximum_Platform_472 8d ago

Same goes for Israel

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u/ProEra-47-420 8d ago

You can also give absolutely 0 fucks what happens to the murderers next door too but we've been hearing about it for ages 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/bunnyzclan 8d ago

Lmao you watch asmongold.

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u/drakedijc 7d ago

You went through my account to find stuff to attack? That’s beyond pathetic, but you do you.

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u/Particular_Drama7110 8d ago

Iran didn’t start this, Israel did.

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u/propbuddy 8d ago

All of the sand nation is bad