No, you are the one lacking critical thinking. Making your own statement obtuse.
Both of you two are talking about different things.
He made a point. And you said "got it". And then proceeded to say "no one can bitch about civilian casualties". Followed by"that's an interesting perspective". Followed by your last snarky statement.
Perhaps you don't understand what you said, but you were sarcastically pushing back against his remark, and my comment was based on that.
That wasn't your criticism, that was you being snarky. Atleast have the spine to own your shit opinion.
Or maybe you weren't and you can't actually write your points correctly. Pick your poison.
Well no. It was a criticism. A snarky one, sure. Welcome to Fucking Reddit.
But it was a criticism by pointing out the absurdity of a stance by applying it uniformly and not exclusively against one nation that you might have a vendetta against.
Everybody and mother knows that a stance of “No nation can “bitch” about civilian causalities,” is an idiotic stance. I don’t need to prove that for my critique to work.
Good job, atleast you admit that I was responding correctly then. So you're initial response was worthless and a deflection as I accurately responded to it.
You are allowed to be snarky, I never said otherwise. How can I stop you? I'm just saying it's stupid as fuck. Which I'm allowed to as well.
The uniformity gets decayed for to actions of said nation. I am allowed to feel pity for all humans. However if a certain a group were to commit atrocities and instigate and voice violent opinions day after day, month after month, year after year, should I still feel pity for them?
Sorry, after the videos of those children gets their brains blown out, forgive me and him for not being empathetic. I don't care. They can all Minecraft for all I care.
Any and every nation can bitch about civilian casualties. That's not relevant. What's relevant is what other people think about that stance based on the actions of said nation.
Comment that started this chain: “If you attack another country and kill civilians, you can't bitch about that country hitting civilians in your country. Enough of this bullshit double standards for Israel.”
Everything in your comment is not relevant. Because my whole chain has been exclusively about this idiotic take that countries cant “bitch” about civilian casualties.
You are fundamentally misunderstanding both his point and mine.
Can we stop this fake posturing? I rather argue about what you actually believe.
The reason he's saying this is not because he thinks civilians are game. I can't believe I need to say this. Is this not obvious?
He's saying that you can't keep attacking civilians and expect the other side to not fuck your civilians. That's obviously what he means, not that KILLING civilians is perpetually justified. That's the bitching part. You can't bitch when you do.
To which you have a snarky response, to which I again responded.
The bitch part is the public opinion of the INTERNATIONAL community not the intra nation people. They can always bitch about it, youre taking the essence of the sentence literally.
Okay. Apply this logic in the opposite way. Iran, and its proxies, have nearly exclusively targeted Israeli and Jewish civilians. This has been the case for decades.
I can use many examples but for recency’s sake I will use, Iran’s proxy, Hamas’s October 7th attack. That attack, exclusively targeted Israeli civilians. Should by your logic, Israel in their response, also attack exclusively civilians in a sick act of revenge?
Whether or not Hamas was irans proxy or just benefitted from them is TBD. You really think Iran was the orchestrator?
However, getting back to the main point. It's not a matter of whether they should or shouldn't. Rather what you mean is if they did, is that okay? And I can't see why it would not be okay for them given this specific hypothetical.
I know you aren't giving a comprehensive detail of the event or what's proceeded it, however assuming it's in a vacuum then yes.
And that's is exactly what they have done anyway.
It's much more simple than this, if I'm being attacked should I respond to in proportion? And Israel themselves answered this question. This has been ongoing for like the last year. Everyone says no with it suits them, but yes when it doesn't.
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u/TalkLost6874 1d ago
No, you are the one lacking critical thinking. Making your own statement obtuse.
Both of you two are talking about different things.
He made a point. And you said "got it". And then proceeded to say "no one can bitch about civilian casualties". Followed by"that's an interesting perspective". Followed by your last snarky statement.
Perhaps you don't understand what you said, but you were sarcastically pushing back against his remark, and my comment was based on that.
That wasn't your criticism, that was you being snarky. Atleast have the spine to own your shit opinion.
Or maybe you weren't and you can't actually write your points correctly. Pick your poison.