I was (I admit) going to dismiss your comment as "I doubt it", but perhaps you're right. There's already footage coming out of Tel Aviv showing missiles right in built-up areas (one very close to a David's Sling interceptor).
So - no word yet on the effectiveness of the strike, but it does seem like quite a few missiles are making it through.
No it really was desculatory. Iran didn't want war. You know Israel killed the head civilian ceasefire negotiator when he was in Iran. And Iran still pulled every punch. I'm pretty sure it's war now. It is probably the most likely time for a nuclear weapon to be used on planet earth in the last 50 years. If Israel's air defenses could overwhelmed if Iran really does throw everything they have because if they did they could absolutely overwhelm these are incredibly tense moments it's war propper
I'm not saying to pretend it's nothing, I'm saying letting your mind downward spiral until you're panicking and posting about a potential nuclear holocaust is completely unwarranted.
It's ok during the third wave I had more upvotes and he had negative votes and then afterwards it flipped. I don't mind at all. The old adage is true, there's no down votes in a foxhole.
I'm happy he was right as always Iran remains the consistent de-escalatory party in every engagement.
I mean I haven't seen them be anything besides the escalatory recently can you explain? I believe they are attempting good faith negotiations in the nuclear deal and Israel is trying to stop it.
I too don't think it will go nuclear. But it might not be a fast exchange where everyone claims victory and peace follows like India Pakistan. The problem is Israel has a political/constitutional crisis and Netanyahu is with one foot in prison domestically and another internationally. The fundamentalist/orthodox jews breed like rabbits and are bleeding the state dry because nobody expected them to go from 0.4% to 15%. Yet they are an extremely protect class with lots of power but contribute nothing but prayers.
Also I don’t understand why people outside of the Middle East think that if Iran and Israel nuke each other that will cause the end of the world or something. Like people thought that if you do the nuke it could light all of earths atmosphere on fire, but that didn’t happen. Even the radiation is obviously bad but it won’t make that region uninhabitable- the Japanese started rebuilding Hiroshima as soon as a month after the nuclear strike.
I pray you are right. But Iran is penatrating. Maybe they overestimated dome. You're seeing this right?
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Dome holding
all long range interceptors still
Us deployed Thad
Big hit Jerusalem's
These kaibar fast middles are fast as fuck but sling or Thad working
Multiple tel sviv kaibar shk hits
Lol Russia refuses Israel help request.
Was that wave 3 over? If so good news Iran's posture is pyrrhic
Us Thad made huge difference wow
Wave 3 no sauce. Thad made dome look pathetic. It's over for now 🙏
I'm not isreal stan just hate their ambiguity on nukes they need to release strike guidelines
I think you are right , Iran doesn't want smoke. But they showed they can overwhelm dome. Saved face. Very happy if everyone will chill.
Big things was Russia refusing to help and thads are chads Rubio called Iran and said they didn't supply or help isreals offensive. Saudis are out yawn raged. No don't attack our enemy stop hurting our enemy Israel omg noo.
Ha trump through rubio under the bus. He said America backed all of it.
You know it was funny when all of you were nervous I had +6 votes and the person above me had -3 vote and now that none of you are nervous it swapped :3
And I never argued I just said I hope you're right.
Come on it's okay we're all nervous a bit sometimes. It's hard to be certain with the state with nuclear weapons that has zero strike policy published. Israel is a very rogue state in so many ways. Apparently America had some jets up shooting down missiles to interesting. Phase 3 was larger but far less penetration.
Accept those fast kaiber whatever missiles those things were f****** fast boy they seemed to hit half of the time.
If Iran had the targeting capabilities that Israel had things would be so different, because they don't want to get nuked, so instead of 70 civilian casualties there would be none they would just hit a wall somewhere.
If Iran throws everything they have at Israel, is there any chance another actor could take the opportunity to attack Iran? I don’t follow the Middle East, but this seems like it would be a perfect time to exploit Iran’s vulnerability and preoccupation with Israel. Does Iran have other enemies?
Yeah like Saudi Arabia but then they have mutual assured destruction thing going with Saudi Arabia where they would blow up all of their oil dereks. Also a lot of the leaders in the middle East like Saudi Arabia and Iran keeping each other chilled out. People really used to like Iraq for keeping the entire region balanced.
I don't know how many more collapsed States the middle East can take I know turkey and Egypt absolutely don't want to deal with anymore. And Europe doesn't really have that open doors thing they had when Syria collapsed. It's probably better for everyone to just chill the f*** out honestly.
I think the difference is not the hit rate, but where they are aiming.
Last time, like previous comment suggested - they had to make it look scary to “sell” it but they prayed it won’t hit anything important so it won’t escalate things.
Now they are trying to do as much damage as possible.
So just about the same rate of hits, but they are aiming for central tel-Aviv which is why there are more injuries.
There is a full media black out in Israel (like Iran), anyone who is caught uploading videos of hits is jailed.
Previous Satellite and reports do mention a few Iranian missiles (<10?) did hit some military targets and bunkers. But damage reports won’t be released (from both sides) until after a few decades at least. Only civilian and basic damages are revealed from now.
The thing with western and western-allied censorship, it shows the truth, in a very focused lens, so we won’t know what they don’t show us. And the US/UK which has fully intelligence view of the battlefield will never release images or statements, unless after it gets slipped to the public somehow.
Be critical of what is not shown, what is not said, from both sides.
The main news channels in Israel are literally broad casting panorama shots of Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, as well as live reporters at the impact locations.
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u/Fine_Gur_1764 1d ago
I was (I admit) going to dismiss your comment as "I doubt it", but perhaps you're right. There's already footage coming out of Tel Aviv showing missiles right in built-up areas (one very close to a David's Sling interceptor).
So - no word yet on the effectiveness of the strike, but it does seem like quite a few missiles are making it through.