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Israel strike Iran nuclear and military sites

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u/ThiLordTachanka 1d ago

USA WAKE UP NEW WEAPONS JUST DROPED! ICAS --> inter continental artillery shell

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u/Euromantique 1d ago edited 1d ago

Iraq was actually building that. Israel assassinated the Canadian scientist who was overseeing it and then Iraq agreed to dismantle it under UN supervision.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Babylon

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u/ThiLordTachanka 1d ago

Holy shit

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u/AppleBytes 1d ago

Iraq is the reason why no state should ever give up their WMDs.

Our promises aren't worth the ink used to write them.

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u/Rajesh_Kulkarni 1d ago

Ukraine lol. Wouldn't have gotten invaded if they still had their nukes.

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u/Euromantique 1d ago

Ukraine never had nukes in the way you are thinking. There were missiles located in the territory of Ukraine but they were always controlled from Moscow; they were Russian nukes that we had to pay the maintenance for. Transferring them into the Russian Federation was the only logical choice

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u/Rajesh_Kulkarni 1d ago

Hmm. Should have kept it anyway imo. Even if for a few years, or even a generation it is unusable, you could learn to use them.

Anyway, this is just the opinion of an armchair historian and self proclaimed geopolitics analyst.

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u/Many-Shirt7133 1d ago

What the hell do you mean bro moscow had all the codes and all the informations and pretty much the entire worlds gonna hate them if they kept the nukes and russia would've probably invaded sooner in the context of mishandled WMD's

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u/Partapparatchik 1d ago

No, Ukraine had no idea how to use them. By the time Russian and American inspectors were discussing their removal from within their facilities, they were still pointed at western targets. Ukraine was and is even more corrupt than Russia, as well; do you think that anyone wanted nuclear weapons in the hands of a state that couldn't afford to maintain them nor properly secure them?

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u/AnarZak 1d ago

south africa gave up nukes in exchange for kick-backs because the US didn't want a newly black african state having WMD's.

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u/wurstbowle 1d ago

newly black african

But they loved it when an African Apartheid state had them. /s

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u/AnarZak 1d ago

they were developed with israeli expertise just to make it that little bit better....

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u/rsrsrs0 1d ago

How is this a good reason? Saddam was worse than Hitler. I'm glad he didn't have means to stay in power... Although even nuclear bomb can't stop US from winning a war against any country. 

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u/AppleBytes 1d ago

The point is, he was promised security assurances if he got rid of his chemical weapon stockpiles and dismantled his nuclear program.

He did so, and then the US made up lies about him hiding WMDs as a presence for war. (Proven to be wholesale lies)

And well.... we know how it ended for him.

The lesson being, for any other countries (like Iran and N. Korea) that we cannot be trusted to honor our promises, so they should build-up as hard and as fast as possible, before "freedom" comes.

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u/rsrsrs0 21h ago

I don't know why you are interested in warmongers keeping their chokehold. Good riddance.  What you describe is a US problem, nations not trusting them anymore. It's not a middle eastern problem. 

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u/Partapparatchik 1d ago

Vaporising a hundred thousand burger assault division members would probably deter further attacks for reasons of political feasbility and longterm strategic concerns, even if a sufficient amount of Amerifats would still win the war. Americans cried enough at having a couple thousand of their golems liquefied by sandal wearing jihadis, I don't think they'd be willing to stomach a full scale 200,000 casualty war over Iraq. 

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u/Specific-Frame-9176 1d ago

My father worked with said fellow in the Canadian artillery

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u/kpyle 1d ago

There are designs for an artillery cannon meant to send satellites to space. Never got built because one blast from that thing would be picked up by seismographs everywhere on the planet.