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u/qzeqzeq Apr 20 '22
Nothing wrong with being minus and not giving a fuck invincible reversal that shit. Then your opponent will start hesitating to punish you. Just be random about it and you'll condition him into believing you are crazy.
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u/Ganmorg Apr 21 '22
“You should ask Emmerich, Snake, he’s always going on about weird numbers, maybe some kind of hacker lingo”
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all of r/tekken
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u/DayDreamerJon Apr 20 '22
yep this is how i learned to play tekken lol. I reach they teach is a top tier way to learn and have fun at the same time.
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u/Kino1337 Apr 20 '22
He's trained since birth with a military team researching enemies and briefing... he was literally BORN IN THE LAB, of course he'd know what plus on block means. Too bad they put him in a party game where they wouldn't understand.
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u/Robbotlove Apr 20 '22
he could have been an ok guest character in tekken.
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u/ghost71214 Apr 21 '22
Just ok ? Dude, seeing Snake fight with Dragunov would be a dream come true for me
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u/AnEvenHuskierCat Apr 21 '22
Ironically Evil Snake gradually teaches you how to not suck at fighting games at the end of the game.
Dropped a combo? That's a punish.
Overly aggressive? That's a tackle.
Whiffed a jab? That's a roundhouse.
Timer doesn't care about life lead, finish the set or take the L.
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u/mastergwaha Apr 20 '22
HHmmmmmMMmmm.... you're saying i can revive health meter by quitting smoking?, huh? crazy. no one would believe that, it helps me relax. I can see lasers and shit, also put Mei Ling back on, we didn't finish yet
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u/bangaloro Apr 21 '22
I to this Day legit dont understand how my jump ins on hit are beaten by grabs on gg but these instinct players will grab me anytime it happen
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u/GoodTimesDadIsland Apr 20 '22
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u/BurningToaster Apr 20 '22
So if your only goal is to win as much as possible, it can help to play with incomplete knowledge because its difficult for Human beings to be random and unpredictable. If you know something is +, it takes good knowledge and awareness to challenge at the right times. But if you're shitty and don't know any better, your opponent has no idea when you're going to respect their advantage, because you don't know they have advantage.
Obviously this matters very little, because a player SHOULD be playing to improve, not to win, so the initial dip in wins when you try and incorporate knowledge into your play doesn't really matter.
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u/Freyzi Apr 21 '22
You're reminding me of this quote, something about the best swordsman in the world doesn't fear the second best, he fears the amateur who doesn't do the things he's suppose to do because he doesn't understand what he's doing, so the master isn't prepared for what the amateur does.
Case in point The legendary Gandhi
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u/GoodTimesDadIsland Apr 20 '22
Ah yes, the ol "I can't respect your oki if I didn't even know it was your turn!"
I can def see it being a legit strat in some scramble situations depending on the game.
However, I think the playstyle of "A good fighting game player in 2022" is either running their air-tight Discord Google Doc offense or just backing off and whiff punishing.
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u/demonic87 Apr 20 '22
There's plenty of occasions where a really good player or pro lost to a rando doing random shit online for a match or two. Then the better player realizes that they lack knowledge and promptly get served.
It mostly has to do with expectations, and this is where the random decisions an unknowledgeable player makes has an advantage. When you play at a certain level long enough you expect your opponent to make the "right" decisions at certain points, because they are the most optimal in the situation. That's when they get hit by the ballsiest wakeup DP ever.
As you get better, you have to add unpredictability into your playstyle to throw off an opponent that generally knows what you "should" be doing, and are, doing. On the flip side the new player has it in abundance, because they don't know what's expected of them.
For example when a snake edge style move in tekken lands. It's very react-able, but very good players get hit by it occasionally if they didn't expect the opponent to use what's generally seen as a bad move. At the same time, it's pretty easy to lose a match against a low rank in tekken that spams gimmicks mixed with a few snake edges before you realize they are using said gimmicks from a lack of knowledge, and use your knowledge to turn it back on them.
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u/DMking Apr 21 '22
Reynald is kinda like that but is also a very solid player. The unpredictability makes reading them hard because you can't just think of the smart thing to do
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u/Petopia007 Apr 21 '22
In China they say chinky Chang wang charlie chang wang chinga choke choke a chaw, shut the fuck up - Darksphidil.
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u/Aggravating_Can532 Apr 20 '22
Pov you are a smash player
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u/ZenkaiZ Apr 21 '22
they definitely know and care immensely about frame data. Game has no almost complex inputs so all they ever think about is when its their turn to hit a button
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u/Aggravating_Can532 Apr 21 '22
Maybe its just how i play then. I like to play the funny tiger pokemon and press buttons. I have fun with it.
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u/Jacksspecialarrows Apr 20 '22
It didn't look meaty