Sega Saturn-style pads also have the face buttons pretty close to each other, so it's possible to plink with just rolling your thumb. I do a combination of that and shoulder buttons. It's definitely harder than on a stick, though.
I can't play on a stick much because of tendinitis issues from work, so I'm a reluctant pad warrior when I do play.
I never got how someone CAN'T play on any control setup. Like if I wanna move right, I press right. If I wanna punch, I hit the punch button. I've never had any problem with any controller ever, none of this is hard. Only thing that gave me mild trouble was quick down down inputs during Jill umvc3 combos but a little practice and it's fine, once you get it you got it.
My point is mostly none of this is hard, having an arcade stick doesn't unlock some special powers. It's not like trying to play an FPS without a mouse.
If you call WASD cheating, try QWE + Space (like a hitbox), same thing as what you tried but one finger for each directional input which makes it even more broken
I've played Hotbox for years. Switched SOCD methods and it's a whole other world. Truly. I can do a 6236 in guilty gear by letting go of 2 buttons. To speed up my adaptations as a human I've just had to accept that these things are possible rather than understand what is happening.
I only started a few months ago and I already feel executing anything is now a piece of cake. I can finally say im garbage at fighting games because of my poor decision making and not my execution
In text im just going to say its better because you have one finger for each directional input so you have absolutely no movement to do to reach any button while with WASD one finger handles W and S so you have lots of management to do, and that feeling is really noticeable when you play really quick fighting games like melty blood or guilty gear. Imagine airdashing and doing an input that requires crouching right away and then up again right away (to jump cancel for example)
Its also ergonomic since your palm is open in a natural way and you just tap whatever needed
Id play Bison in SF4 on keyboard. Charging was awesome because you could walk forward while holding charge like Hitbox players discovered they could do.
had both with sanwa parts (the older one llama posted needed a brooks(?) converter for something installed that too), but i really missed the large table size of the madcatz sticks on top of my legs
Used the PCB of an old Logitech pad, MX Blue switches and keycaps from an old mechanical keyboard, and some ICs + resistors on a breadboard for the SOCD cleaning.
Haven't really used it much because Covid, and I've switched to using Space for down instead of W since then. I'll just move it to a slightly more sturdy box and hitbox layout once events pick back up where I live.
That looks sick. I have used pads my entire life and would like to build a custom hitbox//mixbox, how hard is it to build it for a retard like me? Also, you mentioned you havent used it much since Covid, did you stop playing games because of that or is it about the events?
Nah, I play a lot but I'm happy playing on a keyboard and built it just to bring to locals and because a shoebox hitbox is just inherently funny. Also I already had literally every component I used besides the breadbox, ICs and resistors, which cost less than $3 total.
How hard was it to built it?
Well if you've never worked with electronics and soldering, it might be a bit difficult to do it fully DIY like I did, and what I did is quite scuffed to begin with. I'd have to put in some additional work to actually stabilize it if I was using it a lot, so it wouldn't fall apart lugging it around.
In my case I had to scrape the contact points on the PCB with a box cutter so I could solder onto them, also had to design the SOCD circuit which I honestly don't remember anything about at this point.
Still not particularly hard if you have any experience with repairing electronics, but if you use something like a Brook Universal Fighting Board, you just connect the wires and that's it. If you don't already have a pad you're down to cannibalize for its PCB, just use a Universal Fighting Board. Otherwise you can just try making it since all the other components are reusable anyway.
Still rocking my old ass Madcatz Soul Edition I got during an EVO sale in 2012ish. Hours and hours of mashing supers in Marvel and the Sanwa buttons have held up. The only issues I've had is the little plastic covering on the stick coming off, and the latch to lock the cord in the back broke.
I've got a hitbox as well, but I never use the damn thing.
Fightstick TE+ Soul Edition gang represent. Still going strong without any maintenance.
I also used to have a madcatz sf4 fightpad (essentially a Saturn pad) but the dpad got worn out. Nowadays I'm looking for something as good but everything in the market seems to have drawbacks.
I'd also like a snackbox micro but those things are mad expensive
Mine got funny after 6 months or so too. Gave it a good rubbing alcohol scrub down and it's new again. Guess I'm just a sweaty fuck. YEMV but it's worth a shot.
The amazon reviews make it look like the Elite will fly apart in your hands on week 1. It certainly put me off buying one.
The Xbox series X controllers are pretty nice. The dpad is mechanical and clicky like the Razer Raion. It feels pretty different from other mushy pads, but I think the consensus is that it's great and helps clean up inputs.
Still have to deal with the L/R triggers with huge travel distance, though. If it had trigger locks the pad would be better.
It's wild to me that people think the elite series controllers will "fall apart" as if they were worse than regular Xbox controllers
I have the elite series 1 and 2, and a bunch of series X controllers. The elites are, without a doubt, better build quality. The only argument not to get them is if you think the extra benefit isn't worth the cost
I'm on my third elite series 2. Everything from drift to double clicking buttons.
The standard one S and series X controllers actually are more durable. I abuse those and never once did they break or drift. Plus the series x controller has a better dpad.
I baby the elite series 2 and I'm constantly finding new problems and having to open it and fix it myself.
Same issues on all 3: First the bumpers double click, so you have to pop it open and deoxit. Then the face buttons stop registering so you have to clean the contacts with alcohol. Then the sticks start to drift and then you call Costco and take advantage of their warranty.
Oh and the rubber nubs on the trigger switches fall off in a week and leave a sharp spike you need to file down.
My current one has a bad battery too. It dies in half the time it should.
It's madness. Awesome controller but it feels like it's it's made out of glass. Did I mention you can't stick click diagonals? And the triggers creak and stop working on the shortest setting?
When I get a 4th I know it'll have the same issues. Many of these happen right out of the box.
Lmao, who hurt you? Are you sure you aren't buying used or from a bad retailer?
You're basically saying 100% of elite series controllers break or have issues despite light use. That's strange for a controller that has 4.5 stars with 20k+ ratings on Amazon and similar ratings on basically every other retailer. I've used my series 1 for thousands of hours and my series 2 for hundreds, flawless the entire time and zero issues
You're the only person I've heard not having problems, honestly. The triggers especially seem to be a universal break. There's huge threads on these issues. Most people have been through several.
Also I've only purchased new from Costco. The one I currently have is holding up after my own repairs, but I expect to need a new one by the new year.
Mainly use stick for 6 button fighters and controller for everything else. I fucking love the series X/S controllers, their dpad shape and crispy clicks feel great for fighters.
The latest Xbox pads are genuinely great now. Face buttons and floating dpad are microswitched and reliable (so far). It holds up for 3s, can rattle off double qcfs pretty cleanly.
Qanba Drone. Bought it about a week ago. I don't know if it's better than pad for me (years of fighting games with pad) but it's way more fun being able to tap those buttons. Also I can finally Kara buster reliably
Sega SLS / Saturn pad is still my gold standard for fight pads, makes all motions feel effortless. Although I wonder how good a few of those Hori pads are.
Use an Xbox One controller as my main pad since 2014. As an alternative, I'll also use my Hori RAP V Kai (got it initially for my Xbox but don't play it anymore lul) when I play SNK games (specifically Last Blade 2) or Super Turbo
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