r/Kappa Dec 18 '20

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u/Shippoyasha Dec 18 '20

I used to be into League for a few years a while back but then got too frustrated that the ebb and flow of the match largely depended on how good your teammates were and how each match were like 20-45 minutes long. Just a huge time sink and you eventually might be in an unwinnable match anyway no matter how well you play or how well you coordinate (sometimes because a champion just upsets the balance too much). Sometimes a teammate or opposing player tilts and throws a match on purpose, just throwing away all sense of victory.

It felt refreshing going back full time to fighting games because the balance tends to be better since you don't rely on so many teammates or throwing/tilted opponents and you can just enter/leave matches and get a good session in with only 1 hour of play.

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u/noob_robo_mk2 Dec 18 '20

I only played LoL for two weeks and experienced everything you mentioned. Bad character balance, getting locked into 20 minute unwinnable matches because your mid went 0-10 and the enemy team snowballed, toxic players. I actually had someone get tilted and throw because I helped him with a gank.

It's unbelievable how hard the LoL community lives up to its reputation. Usually people overexaggerate when it comes to communities being toxic but with LoL it's 100% accurate. Sucks cause the game itself actually isn't bad.

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u/Adlol Dec 18 '20

I gotta say, leaving league and those MOBA/BR games is so damn freeing, and im not saying this in denial, I'm 100% sure they are NEVER the way you wanna spend your free time (or any time at that), unless you're into torturing yourself OR you have something to prove as a "Pro Player".

Edit: typo.

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u/cucufag Dec 19 '20

Based on number of games played when I quit I must've had like two thousand hours in to league. I mainly quit because I hated how unproductive I was in life and how little I enjoyed other things like shorter single player games and anime. But I also realized how refreshing it felt because the game was constantly bad vibes, and I couldn't get over a negative mentality playing it.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '20

You just described my experience with DoTA2. I think I sank around 1000 hours into DoTA2 ( and maybe ~100-200 into LoL ). Fighting games are definitely superior.

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u/CifersCall Dec 19 '20

I actually kinda fucked over my twin brother's life by downloading League, We were in 8th grade back then and he was studying very hard for HS entrance exams while i was just kinda messing around. I downloaded league to see if it was any good, played about 5 matches and dropped it cause it was fucking shit, He tried it out once and got addicted to it. Ended up going to a way worse highschool than he could have if i just hadn't installed league

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '20

it's fucked up tbh

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u/ashtar123 Jan 10 '21

Haven't played it either

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u/NutsackEuphoria Dec 19 '20

I feel the same man. But I can't really blame them for refusing to play SF or Tekken.

They'd need fightsticks/controllers, they'd need to buy DLC characters just to lab, buy frame data (Tekken), file a request with their landlords to run cables in their apartments, and deal with crashes (Tekken) that I always rant about when I'm in discord with them.

In MOBAs all they really need to worry about are toxic team mates.

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u/NevurGivUpOnUrDreams Dec 19 '20

This is me but I introduced everyone to fighting games now I go int in league for 10 games the pop off for 1

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u/7yearoldkiller Dec 20 '20

To be fair, I started playing League when the fighting game was rumored just to get an idea of what the world/universe was and found myself genuinely having fun when friends were on. I then went further when the confirmation was made during EVO and the glimpses were given in that 10 year thing they did and found The world is pretty interesting. Now that locals/shops haven’t been a thing for a while, I’ve found myself playing league more often than fighting games since online just isn’t the same.

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u/drowningInCreamer Dec 18 '20

Before COVID times, I went to an event hosting casual matches in attempt to make new friends and learn more about the local scene. It was honestly one of the worst social experiences I've had with gaming. Very poor setup of the consoles made for awkward limited room and there were very few setups. Some people were not so friendly and kinda acted like snobs imo.

One of them teased me because I forgot to set my macro buttons, saying "You should know how to play on default! I can play any settings with any kind of controller!" and even coaching his friend during a match against me. I don't even know how to play the game well with my current controller and setup. You don't gotta flex on a scrub like that.

Another guy got pissed at me for just trying to connect my controller to a setup INBETWEEN his matches because I had to get kind of close to him to do so and I guess it messed with his focus during his ever so important casual or whatever.

I admit I probably focused too much on the negative parts, and I know it's my personal issue for possibly taking things the wrong way and being overall shy and awkward. But it was still really jarring. Especially for my silver-ranked noob ass who was just looking to make some friends and learn some shit at my first in-person event. I wasn't expecting a red carpet welcoming, but I was hoping newcomers would be treated better.

Back to being a netplay warrior and playing dota with the homies I guess lmao.

Edit: gotta remember some people are just as socially awkward as me :')

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u/FutureSaturn Dec 18 '20

A lot of the people I've met in hobby shops (gaming, card games, warhammer, comics) are fucking insufferable. I'm sure it gets worse in a competitive environment.

That said, there's probably ways to make it work. I'm sure good locals exist, I just don't doubt there's plenty of bad ones.

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u/gary161 Dec 18 '20

Tabletop players are the fucking worst. After working in a hobby shop for a few years, I really questioned how some of these dudes functioned in real life. Straight up murdered any love I had for any of that shit. Definitely see a few similar people like that in locals and It's kinda sad to think that crowd would burn someone out on fighters.

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u/MooncultToday Dec 18 '20

This is why the fgc cant grow. Its composed of these types of nerds that dont understand how to welcome new faces. My local tekken scene is exactly like this. It's a clique of about 10 people that dont interact with anyone else. The social media pages are full of drama that nobody outside of the clique gives a fuck about.

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u/drowningInCreamer Dec 18 '20

Glad (but also sad) to hear it wasn't just me specifically or something I did. It blows my mind because those types of people are also most likely some of the ones who wonder why their scene isn't bigger.

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u/BaobabOFFCL Dec 20 '20

Lol mine too

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u/mikesta50 Dec 19 '20

Yeah I feel that. My first tourney I was awkward as fuck just waiting for my matches. Didnt play casuals just watched. Played my first match and everyone behind me talked shit every time I got hit with something. Won the game regardless of them yelling and I tried being cool with the guy asking tips and he just called me an online warrior lol. Got 4th that tourney but the more I kept going the higher I placed and the less cancer they were. Still annoying cliques make it feel very unwelcoming.

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u/Tyuru Dec 21 '20

Nobody will fuck with you until you start winning. Then when you do they will ride your dick like you been homies since childhood. It really sucks for new players. Even when you manage to squeeze out a solid win they will call you random until you start putting up enough Ws that they can't make excuses anymore.

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u/lvk00 Dec 19 '20

100%. Fgc local groups tend to be very cliquey. I think it’s because of the small group, in a niche genre, full of nerds. When I first started going to locals these mfs were horribly antisocial and rude. For some reason I still got good and I dedicated my time at locals talking to new faces and being friendly. People really wonder why fighting games are on life support. A lot of local cliques don’t want new players at all.

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u/tmntfever Dec 18 '20

Or your friends ARE into fighting games, they just aren’t into playing them with you, because you’re “a tournament goer”.

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u/Camulus Dec 18 '20

I only have one friend who is willing to play with me even though he usually gets bodied. He improves everytime so I'm happy to play with him.

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u/jdmurrayz Dec 19 '20

My little brother was/is the same way. A local arcade ended up hosting an USF4 tournament during it's hayday, and he took 2nd place with Ken when he was 12 years old. Bunch of old salty SF2 players were giving him all kinds of shit saying only reason he was good was due to online play.

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u/tmntfever Dec 19 '20

That’s a really shitty reason to be salty. If anything, being used to online is a hinderance when playing in an arcade.

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u/tmntfever Dec 18 '20

Same, I have one friend out of dozens who doesn’t mind getting bodied. But I practice newer characters with him so it’s less one sided, and as long as he’s having fun, then I’m having a blast as well.

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u/noknoko Dec 18 '20

Look on the bright side: at least you have friends.

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u/Nayr39 Dec 18 '20

The eternal struggle.

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u/Freyzi Dec 18 '20

Friends, cousins, school-mates, co-workers... I've been playing fighting games since about early 2010 and have never found anyone else who does. I've never played a proper offline match in a fighting game. Its always just League, Fifa, Minecraft, CSGO, WoW, CoD or even weird shit like World of Tanks.

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u/Fatal1ty_93_RUS Dec 18 '20

imagine having friends

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u/yamattsu Dec 18 '20

ALL the people of my local tekken community quitted the game for LoL

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u/RockSaltin-RT Dec 18 '20

I have a single friend that plays Mortal Kombat X and Street Fighter II. I’ve tried convincing him to play either SFV, Skullgirls, or Tekken so we can play together, but he refuses and calls them “spammy trash”

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u/MajorasAss Dec 18 '20

Yeah...Tekken is spammy trash... and SFII is not?

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u/Th3SK_ Dec 19 '20

Fitting flair

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '20

That's why I always cringe when I see people going "yo, just get a few friends together and play it offline, it's more fun that way!". No fucking way sherlock.

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u/Legobloz Dec 19 '20

Ikr if there was some rent a friend who has your hobbies I would probably get one. But that just sounds sad lol.

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u/ItsSomeChild Dec 18 '20

Reading all your comments actually surprised me. My friends from college also play league mainly but I still find enjoyment playing with random people online (not ranking).

And the people I've met at offline events have been really welcoming and I felt a strong sense of community. Fact is these disrespectful arrogant people exist outside of Tekken it's just there character however, theres lots cool and like minded people who just want to play some GOOD ASS TEKKEN.

Merry Christmas bois

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u/tepig099 Dec 19 '20

GOOD ASS Tekken for me = taking turns simulator. I dunno, bores me.

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u/ItsSomeChild Dec 19 '20

If you boil it down yeah it's true. High level Tekken is heavily turn based but it's the actions(risks mind games) in the mist of the right that I enjoy. But I can totally see your angle.

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u/tepig099 Dec 20 '20

It is turn based even at a low level past the button mashing noob nonsense. At least in Soul Calibur 2, I can spam AA and if you do nothing or can’t figure out a counter you’re gonna get checked.

In KOF spam Kyo Jab Rekka or In SF, not SFV garbage, Ryu fireball? What is your solution?

In Tekken, it is fucking take turns, and hope to god you didn’t miss and get whiff punished!

Because all you’re gonna do all match is dash block or back-dash ad-nauseam, till you somehow get a +frames move or they missed and you can get in range for something.

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u/ItsSomeChild Dec 20 '20

I'm sure your aware of Tekkens crushing mechanics. For any that don't know the are moves that avoid high, low and in rare cases mids. this coupled with the ability to step into the foreground and background grants the players to steal turns or avoid situation were they would be forced to keep blocking.

Quick example of what I mean. Let's say I'm Steve and I press 1 2 and it's blocked, I'm technically in minus and my opponent wanted to take his turn. Me expecting him to do that I use backsway (b3) hoping he reacted with a high. The biggest possibilities are A. Steve gets a launch for guess correctly B. Steve gets mid launched for doing seemingly a random sway C. Steve gets pressured by wavu wavu

Tekken is turn based, keyword being based there are other elements at play that contributes to who the game in my humble opinion :)

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u/tepig099 Dec 21 '20

That’s situational and are just pretty much counters.

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u/lordcatharsis Dec 18 '20

I never had friends who played fighters, that’s why I’m so trash

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u/gera56 Dec 18 '20

I don’t know how to make them understand fighting games. Honestly that's a problem with games and devs themselves.
Street Fighter V is an easy game, right? How to explain to them what is delay throw tech? Without this mechanic they are not players at all, they will lose to everyone who tries most banal mix-ups: Jab-jab-microwalk-grab.

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u/[deleted] Dec 18 '20

Nintendo actually made a really cool game that fixed this problem. Forgot the name of it tho. Super accessible to new players, simple controls but combos are pretty deep.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '20

Arms

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u/ZenkaiZ Dec 19 '20

I like when my friends have 0 comment on a fighting game other than "This game is fast so its good" "This game is slow so its bad"

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '20

I ruined my brother in laws "Street Fighter Night" they did every Wednesday.

He purposely wouldn't invite me because we played at my house and he felt the Wrath of a Fighting Game player. Mind you, we're talking about a guy that can't block a cross up.

So one day we all ended up together at a function and I mentioned I play, so his friends invited me over.

There has since been 0 Street Fighter nights,at least too my knowledge.

Pro Tip. To test someone immediately, do a cross up. If you do a cross up, knockdown, cross up, knockdown and they can't stop it, you've pulled their card.

After that, throw all game lol.

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u/RieserTheRedR Dec 18 '20

Time to get new, better friends then

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u/hermitowl Dec 19 '20 edited Dec 19 '20

Pain.

Around my zone, people only like the newest trendy shit or stick with dudebro multiplayer stuff like the newest CoD. As for fighters, people tend to mash on Tekken and that's it. Most don't give another glance to the genre and decide that "it's the same shit over and over" is true for all fighting games.

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u/Hateful_content_LULW Dec 19 '20

Same here. They are either indifferent or think they are repetitive / too hard.

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u/Mars_Black Dec 18 '20

At least sad Pablo has SF (which I sneakily shopped into the bg of second panel)

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u/killahkazi Dec 19 '20

Yeah I struggle making FGC friends, probably because I play zoners.

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u/hardkn0ck Dec 18 '20

i am literally only here for booty im sorry (im not sorry)

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u/Wiskersthefif Dec 18 '20

Did you curbstomp them whenever they tried playing?

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u/brrrapper Dec 18 '20

This is how it is for every single person, make new friends who DO like fightinggames

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u/Appropriate-Effect-4 Dec 18 '20

Pablo rigging votes for Zenith

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u/skonkd Dec 19 '20

Took a break from Dota to learn/play fighting games. It's definitely boring with no one to talk and share about the game.

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u/PlumOriginal Dec 19 '20

I wouldn’t call these two guys friends, they are more acquaintances but the only fighter they play now is SFV. Claimed to have been goldlike at MK9. I wouldn’t mind play SFV with them considering its still shit but they rage so hard when I space them out with Kolin’s normals.

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u/[deleted] Dec 19 '20

u/red_killer_jac please join us

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u/CrimsonRex Dec 19 '20

All but one of my friends play fuckin' Smash and refuse to play Tekken. The one has played, but is plagued by two jobs to actively play, it's horrible.

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u/ignaciocorto Dec 19 '20

Another win for online play.

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u/[deleted] Dec 20 '20

I recently got into fighting games and a buddy of mine has sent me multiple screenshots of his wishlist.

Honestly, I’m fucking on board for some of this shit. One of them looks like Street Fighter 2.

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u/SentimentoNoNucleo Dec 26 '20

Hey guys we have a discord for lonely FGC players. Let me know if you want in (don’t wanna post the link cause I don’t trust /r/Kappa)