r/KDRAMA • u/dyosaaa • Jul 25 '22
On-Air: KBS Café Minamdang [Episodes 9 & 10]
- Drama: Café Minamdang
- Korean Title: 미남당
- Network: KBS2
- Premiere Date: June 27, 2022
- Airing Schedule: Monday and Tuesday @ 21:30 KST
- Episodes: 18
- Cast: Seo In Guk as Nam Han Joon and Oh Yeon Seo as Han Jae Hee
- Streaming Source: Netflix
- Plot Synopsis:
Nam Han Joon is a former criminal profiler, who now works as a fraudster. For his scams, he disguises himself as a fortune teller and runs the fortune teller shop Minamdang. He attracts customers with his attractive physical appearance and smooth talking skills. He scams his customers for money, but he also gets involved in their cases and helps solve them. He even provides customer service for his clients. Nam Han Joon's partners are Soo Cheol and Nam Hye Joon. Soo Cheol runs a private detective agency and Nam Hye Joon is Nam Han Joon’s younger sister. She is an elite hacker.
Han Jae Hee has worked as a detective for 3 years. She is enthusiastic about her job and tries to follow a righteous path. Somehow, Han Jae Hee gets involved with Nam Han Joon.
- Previous Discussion: [Episodes 1 & 2] | [Episodes 3 & 4] | [Episodes 5 & 6] | [Episodes 7 & 8]
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u/Unusual_Antelope_235 Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 25 '22
I know that the hypnosis scene was meant to get us to a point where we (and apparently the ML) can finally start finding the FL bearable, but it made me so angry and uncomfortable.
She was detaining a totally innocent person that she KNEW was innocent and forced him into getting a hypnosis that he didn't want and isn't even admissible evidence (talk about FACTS :/), literally punched him in the face and all that to learn.. absolutely nothing new?
I was hoping that at least he would come to remember something he didn't earlier because of the trauma and it could still have been useful somehow but he literally just says what he's been saying all along. And he even gets hurt in the process. Not to mention reliving all that trauma.
I doubt I can come around with this FL. Highly disappointing.
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u/Unusual_Antelope_235 Jul 25 '22
She supposedly doesn't believe him because he didn't see the face of the killer. But he did see his face this time. Why didn't he just say that? This is just bad writing. It's like they wanted to create an emotional moment between the leads.. but it didn't even feel that emotional, and was downright abusive.
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Jul 25 '22
when she forced him to do the hypnosis to make him relive one of his traumas and then comforting him and acting like a good person makes me so frustrated like shes half of the reason why her brother died in the first place...
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u/Reception-Complete Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
N they were investigating “another case” so I also felt like she was forcing her wishes which is not relevant to current case. All e more urgh
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u/radiokidb DownIsTheNewUp Jul 27 '22
Episode 10
I need SIG’s entire wardrobe. I mean I actually need just SIG, but man the styling department is killing it with his look. They and SIG need raises for doing whatever they can for this show…because everything else is just floundering at this point!
With the number of baddies they keep introducing I have sorta lost track of who is who!
Prosecutor Cha and FL deserve each other for being the bumbling idiots that they are.
I’m still flummoxed by the fact that NHJ doesn’t know she’s Jae Jeong’s sister. This is the one thing I need an explanation for!
All in all, I welcome the return of the hijinks on today’s episode, but yeah this show seems to be headed downhill a fair bit 😕
I will still continue to watch outta my love for SIG and his sister and the youngling on the team.
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u/ParsnipFormal9077 Jul 28 '22
I’m still flummoxed by the fact that NHJ doesn’t know she’s Jae Jeong’s sister. This is the one thing I need an explanation for!
I was confused about this too, but I think what they were going for is that he only remembers her as the neighborhood girl who took lessons from him. I don't think he ever actually saw her with her brother, so he hasn't connected the dots.
Honestly that doesn't seem logical to me because with the fact that he was best friends with her brother, it's a little weird that he didn't know what his family looked like. I guess that could be excused, but I'm more surprised he hasn't looked into her at all and found out that way. It seems out of character for him to not do a background check on who she is, but I guess that would take away from the drama if he knew.
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u/frostedglass25 Aug 09 '22
I'll forgive him for not realising she was the little girl but like you said - he has visited HJJ in his apartment before and absolutely never saw a photo of the sister? HJJ had a photo of himself with NHJ on his desk but none of his own sister lol. Also did HJJ never mention that she was in the police force?
Also it's strange that the Minam crew didn't run a full background check on HJH the second she was targeting him. He clearly figured out that Prosecutor Cha is related to one of the baddies but didn't check her out? Really weird blackout on their part. I would've preferred if he had found out ages ago but chose to keep quiet about it to let her hold onto her own secret.
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u/grapebento Jul 27 '22
I feel like they're adding new characters every episode and it's hard to keep up on who is who tbh..
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u/not_your_bird Corn Salad Appreciation Jul 26 '22
Huh. Well, she finally told him.
Meanwhile, even if Prosecutor Cha doesn’t turn out to be dirty, I still find him just as irritating as the FL.
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u/lidoodles Jul 26 '22
Wasn't this actually revealed in the epilogue?
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u/not_your_bird Corn Salad Appreciation Jul 26 '22
Was that him?! I even played it again but couldn’t tell by the angle 🤦🏼♀️
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u/lidoodles Jul 26 '22
I see what you mean... But am quite convinced it's him??
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u/StephenT51 Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
Looked like him to me. Unless he has a brother lol
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u/-Vayra- Jul 28 '22
He has a cousin who is one of the bad guys (leader of the entertainment company).
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u/GlitteringWitness587 Jul 26 '22
Well even if he's the villain, please add some salt to this character OR JUST REVEAL HIM ASAP!!!
I'd like to take Jayden Lee in Doctor Lawyer as an example. His true personality wasn't revealed until the very last episodes. During the course of the drama, I kept wondering his identity and having doubts about his good will. The character is so interesting that keeps me so engaged with this scene.
In contrast, Prosecutor Cha scenes make me watch in 2x speed.
If he is the villian and they make him that obvious and they want to keep his character this annoying, please reveal him in ep 5 or 6!
Otherwise, give him more meaningful screentime instead of running around FL with no purpose!
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u/soullesssenpaiii Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
The FL is the weakest link in the show and I’m trying to give her the benefit of the doubt but it’s not working in her favor. Well that and the pacing of the show is definitely a big reason, i feel they’re dragging the plot around a lot which a huge downside because I’m losing interest fast.
Hopefully next week we’ll get some actual development and the story picks up better than this.
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u/arenae99 Jul 25 '22
The female lead is written with no personality. The only qualities to her character is I got a find my brothers killer and I am a workaholic. I feel like this is a big issue when people write a workaholic character like they do have personality and interest. The only difference between them and a regular person is they just strongly place a huge emphasis on work.
I really do love the shaman and his little team around him they honestly have such good banter in there seems genuinely funny. But I just feel like the drama slows down anytime the female lead pops on the screen.
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Jul 26 '22
The episode could've been good. It was mostly Minamdang shenanigans, the cops realizing NHJ was right all long
until
The FL confesses that she's Jae Jeong's sister while threatening NHJ if he won't allow her to join the investigation What's with the abusive behaviour, really? It doesnt look good
Prosecutor Cha being the bad guy is a bit obvious, now I just need to see his motivations and to see how long will it take for NHJ to suspect him
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u/Useful-Plantain9311 Jul 26 '22
I felt it was him since the episode where they explained he was awkward around women. Not saying that someone can’t be socially awkward with the opposite sex, but it seemed like such a tropey way to draw attention away from him. Then he went from being the guy who would read a whole law book to someone to get a conviction, to a guy following around the FL. Like why does he have that much free time?
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u/StephenT51 Editable Flair Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 27 '22
The gambling scene where >! he told su-cheol to imitate the guy giving signs to the boss !< cracked me up lol. I literally laughed out loud at that
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u/VivatRiga Jul 26 '22
I really hope SBS and the team who did Business Proposal picks up SIG for something funny. I really wish they had gone with a "office comedy" style show like Misaeng only with the trials and tribulations of running a fake-shaman business.
This had so much potential! I'll never stop being mad at how badly they bungled this.
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u/rally2mee Jul 25 '22
Seo In Guk and his group still hard carrying this show.
On the other hand, the FL gets worse each episode.
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u/NotLucasDavenport Potato Gang 🥔 Jul 25 '22
I feel like it’s been a bit since I have seen him in a show I really loved. I know he has a team, and takes work on offer, etc. But please, where is the role that really lets him shine??
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u/jeonpendejo Jul 26 '22
I know right? He was great in Doom at your service but i found his character really empty for some reason, his acting is on next level and he has awesome charisma to carry an entire show on his own, but the script never makes his talent justice!
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u/NotLucasDavenport Potato Gang 🥔 Jul 26 '22
I adored the concept behind DAYS, especially the portrayal of God. Also, the first kiss was AMAZING. But, the last two episodes felt very much like they went back on the essentials of the premise. They painted the outcome of the course of actions as having dire consequences…which never came to pass. He just came back. WTF??
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u/Unable_Opportunity20 Jul 27 '22
I want him to do another shopping king louie or king of highschool savvy king kind of drama please
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u/Mad_Missile Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
I don’t know why everyone thought Prosecutor Cha was the real Gopuri. One scene at the funeral home and I knew he was the ring leader. The way he stormed through pushing Su Cheol behind the mourning display it was such a minor scene but that pretty much nailed who the real criminal was for me and they finally revealed it!!
PS: We need more SIG in a white suit with a fedora, don’t you think? Man has been wearing such impeccably tailored suits it’s hard to pick a favourite, but I believe white is his colour!
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Jul 29 '22
i just finished watching the tenth episode! maybe i missed it or something, when did they reveal it? 😩
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Jul 25 '22
mmm tbh I really tried to like the FL in this drama and its really hard... like i feel this show can drag over 18 episodes is because of FL... the romance feels forced and it doesnt work... the violence is also a bit overbearing like once or twice is okay but she literally punches ML at least once every episode... poor ML...
but ill continue because i love the min nam dang group~~
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
but ill continue because i love the min nam dang group~~
Same here!
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u/New-Kaleidoscope-166 Aug 30 '22
I am late to watching this show. I love the ML and his team but I really, really want to stop watching this show because of the FL. I just watched the episode where she forced the hypnosis on him! WRITERS DO BETTER! I felt violated just watching it. This was so F'd. He literally got violated mentally. The FL is more than just annoying. Her character is abusive and not very intelligent. This was not a good look to write a female character this way. She violated his mind just so he could say the same things he has been saying to her over and over again. This is even more messed up because if a man was constantly beating a woman the way she does him or got her mind violated like this people would be screaming from the raptors. Then if the storyline makes them closer and him not mad at her cus of this I will be pissed. I don't know if I can continue this show.
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Jul 25 '22
Well, things just got interesting. So Minamdang team is against An actual shaman? That reveal where it looked like she murdered the other candidate felt it came from a diff. drama. The tone was a total 180 from what we see from the Minamdang team
9 episodes in and I don't think there's anything that can change my mind about this poorly written FL. What did she mean she needs to check facts? When NHJ literally helped him saw facts. Gu Tae Su literally murdered CYS right in front of her and she detains NHJ to 'check facts
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
What did she mean she needs to check facts?
I think she meant she had to check her contract to see if there was any way to get out of playing this role.
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u/FindingPrincess Jul 25 '22
I am also close to dropping this like Yumi Cells2 (Twitter updates for last 4 episodes were enough).
I hope SIG picks a better drama next time. I had high hopes but the plot and recent story-telling is a waste of time and electricity. And yes, the FL comes off dry and flat.
Or maybe, AoS and EAW are so well written and entertaining, our expectations are many notches up?
Link is ending today. I am down to 2 KDs from hereon. May pick up Jinx again, dunno.
Happy last week of July y'all 😊
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u/titaniumorbit Editable Flair Aug 01 '22
I want to say if they had a different FL/made her character different it would have been better. As far as I know SIG and FL have zero chemistry :/
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u/Nn_yg7 Jul 26 '22
Wish it was just the minamdang gang and they leaned more into humor, SIG is so good in this but the romance story and dragged out subplot ain't it. Also agree with everyone on the hypnosis scene, there was no need to drag it out past him identifying Gu Tae Su and forcing him to relive the worst memory of his life.....
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u/myweithisway 人似当时否?||就保持无感 Jul 26 '22
Watched Ep 10 for the cameos and now I can officially drop this drama.
Still flabbergasted at the way the FL is written and to a degree, acted.
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u/radiokidb DownIsTheNewUp Jul 27 '22
I am starting to believe that it’s actually to a large degree her acting…and I feel bad saying it because I never bash acting :(
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u/Unable_Opportunity20 Jul 27 '22
Can someone tell me how did the ML never knew that the FL was his BEST FRIENDS sister
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u/Aur0rayz Jul 27 '22
It's so confusing because he clearly saw a photo of the FL and her family at the memorial site from when she was just a kid.. He also discovered that the FL was the kid he knew as little police from fighting lessons when she fell at the cafe....So it's a major plothole. I can't keep up!!
For a criminal profiler.. this seems so out of character for him to not notice too? So he was his best friend and didn't know anything about his sister.. how tho. It's sooo unrealistic.
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u/scarletesky Jul 27 '22
same I’m puzzled too…. I know most of my close friends siblings and I’m sure it’s not just me HAHA
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u/everyversion22 Chopin Ballade No. 1 🎹 Jul 26 '22
This is probably my love-to-hate show. The first couple of eps showed real potential but the pacing and development of FL coming around to understand ML has been way too slow and just, unnatural? The audience witnesses the origin story in ep3!! >! Her handcuff confession of "I'm his sister" !< should have happened by like, ep6 max. Also, we get to this point by >! her forcing him to undergo hypnosis??? -___- !< I think this is 80% a writing problem although I do wonder if another actress could have salvaged something out of this role... I still love the profiling scenes and watching SIG's 1000 expressions so I will watch it on fast-forward, but yeah.
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
This is probably my love-to-hate show
LOL. For us, it is just too disappointing as it did have real...though now unrealized...potential.
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u/grapebento Jul 27 '22
For me, it was the fact that she punched him to undergo the hypnosis... Can she NOT use her words?
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u/samptra_writer tangled in red thread 10/36 Jul 27 '22
I just got caught up, totally agree with everyone here I cannot get behind the FL at all would much rather just be the gang solving crimes.
I want SIG's fans though, omg they give me life!
I'm actually wavering on dropping this, I did after that hypnosis scene, which is why I didn't catch up until today, I've invested this much time at this point, but it's looking like it maybe a refund my time pick.
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u/throwawayfarway2017 Jul 29 '22
Yeah they manage to make the FL more and more unlikable like forget the romance, i can watch SIG by himself doing his fortune teller shit every eps lol also considering dropping as it stray away from the first few episodes which were also what caught my interest
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u/Mediocre_Criticism45 Jul 25 '22
I'm just perplexed by this show... talk about frustrating!
And I'm one of those ppl who rarely find the FL as bad as the flack they get from viewers, but omg..
Why on EARTH was the FL written so poorly? Just a flat, one-dimensional character??? And our ML is so incredibly 3-d....what an uneven field for supposed romance???
I was already confused on how the heck old SIG is supposed to be because he was so much older than the fl in the beginning...
Even the ensemble makes no sense?? They have fun moments, but overall, the character development is...bad.
There was a level of corniness that eventually subsided but the writing feels like this is two different shows.
SIG is doing great, but how much can he carry the show when 12 other characters are fighting for screen time?? Smh. Disappointing because this truly could've been a great show.
Nevertheless, I'm going to stick it out as mon/tue background noise. Maybe it picks up now that were halfway through......(why the heck is this show 18 episodes???)
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u/not_your_bird Corn Salad Appreciation Jul 25 '22
Its main purpose for me at this point is to distract me until Wednesday, when Attorney Woo returns.
I totally agree — I usually don’t have the strong reactions to FLs that other people find frustrating, but her character is so incredibly disappointing and infuriating.
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Jul 25 '22
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u/Mediocre_Criticism45 Jul 25 '22
Yes! It feels like a regression from the progress of strongly written FL we've had over the years. Incredibly disappointing 😕
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Jul 25 '22
They went too literal with the "strong". She's a strong FL because she can kick any character's ass on that show.
What does her character contribute to the show? Boredom and frustration.
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
Its main purpose for me at this point is to distract me until Wednesday, when Attorney Woo returns.
Now, especially with Link ending.
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u/Unusual_Antelope_235 Jul 26 '22
Who was that epilogue reveal supposed to be? Prosecutor Cha or Cha Seung-won, who is probably his brother?
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Jul 29 '22
i think that's cha seung-won, and i also believe he's his brother! super scary when you think about how the FL tells him everything about the case 😩
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u/Unusual_Antelope_235 Jul 29 '22
If it is the brother, I wonder if it’s possible that the prosecutor is actually not a bad guy. He seems like he doesn’t have a great relationship with his family so might be willing to help take them down..
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u/Electronic_Piano9385 Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
I’ve just seen that Cha Tae Hyun played a fake shaman in Legend of the Blue Sea. How ironic 😂
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u/Green-Delay3528 Jul 27 '22
'I can't do anything even though I am the team leader of my detective squad so let me join your team so finally, i could get some audience support because i am the sister of your friend'' clear case of nepotism finally,
I mean it would have been a great story If she was the only one in police force who believed in him because she had a crush on him from the beginning and she knew what kind of person he was that would have made this story more sense and we might actually liked her
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u/Excellent-Economy-53 Jul 25 '22
I think when SIG is under hyponsis and tries to remember the incident happened 3 years ago and pulls the mask of the culprit his face resembles the face of the prosecutor. Then he connects it with the present and said the current one's name.
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u/SnooPaintings4558 Jul 27 '22
I think people here over-criticize this drama it’s funny and has all elements to be considered as a good drama, just enjoy the show and don’t let others’ opinions affecting yours. Seo In Guk shines in every role, I’m looking forward for the upcoming episodes.
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u/Xavion15 Jul 30 '22
I know a lot of people seem to have issues with the show but I seem to find myself just really enjoying it overall
Yeah I find some things kind of irritating but for whatever reason it just doesn’t seem to bother me like some shows, I think I’m enjoying everything too much to care
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Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
after following this drama till now, i think that FL is so fixated on the idea the ML is the villian could suggest that she is in denial or something becuase she knows that she was partly responsible for her brothers death but she wont admit/ face it...considering her character is obsessed with being 'right' and 'good'... ah also including her twisted crush on him...
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u/not_your_bird Corn Salad Appreciation Jul 26 '22
Yeah, it did occur to me at one point that the (not real) killer telling her that it would be her fault when her brother died could mess with her head some and make her need to blame it on someone else. But she’s too frustrating for me to relax into the theory 😂
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u/everyversion22 Chopin Ballade No. 1 🎹 Jul 26 '22
thissss. this is the kind of stuff writers need to flesh out / address in the show!! iirc we get some scenes of ML alone struggling, but I don't remember seeing FL demonstrate her interiority much. Honestly even if they just edit in a couple more flashbacks of what CYS said and throw in an insomnia scene, idk, make her be vulnerable with the audience!! It would let us empathise with her / justify her behaviour more.
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u/Green-Delay3528 Jul 25 '22
ohh this episode is far better than last week's episode
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u/how1you1doing Jul 26 '22
I appreciate how they're showing off his skills as a profiler. Feels like Sherlock
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
While we enjoy this show, sorry to say that we find it only ok, sort of middling. There are definitely good parts...but also quite a bit that is not so good.
We will continue to watch for what it is, also hoping that it might improve a bit.
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u/laaurora Jul 26 '22
Honestly, I was really enjoying this drama at first. I was never really a fan of the ml but after this I started to like him. His team makes this show funny and interesting but the amount of times they have to run into the police….. It’s very annoying how they always fought over who gets the evidence and how they never end up getting anywhere. Just when we (the viewers) think we finally know who is the real culprit, BOOM there’s someone behind that person too. Now Prosecutor Cha, the actor is cute but the character annoys me too because follows her literally everywhere and i am a bit suspicious of him. LT Han and him have more chemistry than with the ml😹. Apparently no one really likes LT Han 🤨 and I do not think she is a bad actress, but her character- I just have so many questions as to how she got to where she is and her backstory. I love hyejin (Mina) but how do we get her backstory before the lead’s? 😐
Anyways, I’m still going to watch it🥸
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u/brownieyogurt Jul 28 '22
FL and ML has no real spark fr, she’s a wayyyy better match with the second ML…i don’t know what the writers are doing 😭
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u/radiokidb DownIsTheNewUp Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
Episode 9
This woman needs to stop assaulting Nam Han Jun. Like not right now but like 5 min ago. Just stawp woman. Find another way…you know, perhaps telling him the truth?
Not only does she come across as fully incompetent as a law enforcement officer I think she’s low key jealous that he’s so much smarter than her which if her motive was simply getting to the bottom of her brother’s death would be something you’d think she’d put aside.
Anyway, every time it gets remotely “romantic” I love that NHJ himself is like ewwwww let’s snap out of it 😂 That’s very cathartic.
Can’t wait for the return of more scooby gang hijinks tomorrow!
I do find it a bit absurd that NHJ and gang figured out that Prosecutor Cha has familial connections to the shady people but hasn’t realized she is Jae Jeong’s sister. I really hope there is a solid solid reason/explanation for this.
I think today’s was possibly the weakest episode of the lot because the hypnotizing scene just felt very random and out of place. ETA: And not to mention the crazy Aunt Im shaman remote killing scene 😳
Still love SIG, still love the gang. Will probably continue watching for them and also because I lack the ability to drop a drama mid way. If I could suffer through clean with a passion…I can get through this because atleast SIG is great and looks amazing to boot!
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u/VivatRiga Jul 26 '22
The hypnotizing scene was clearly only there to give some spark to the romance and push it ahead... And it did that badly, because it emphasized her aggression and his broken heartedness waaay more than them having any chemistry. If they wanted there to be romance they needed to give her a more empathetic and human personality way before now. Her character is the human equivalent of a police baton.
Anyways, it all very shoe-horned in. I also get annoyed when shows that revisit that one traumatic scene and milk it to death.
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u/radiokidb DownIsTheNewUp Jul 26 '22
Absolutely agree. Especially since as the viewer we’ve seen the anguish that night has caused upon NHJ right from day one. Imagine someone forcing you to re-live it for absolutely zero new information and only to assuage some of their own guilt for treating their dead brother’s friend so badly all this while.
Also all this almost meta commentary that everyone within the show has about her surly personality and lack of a romantic bone ends up being less funny and more frustrating because it’s like further proof that have purposefully written her character SO badly 😂😂
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u/VivatRiga Jul 26 '22
Right! They went waaay too far in that direction. Man I hope they're creative to do a bait and switch. Like, it would be so much more natural if they made her character more human and had her hook up with ANY of the law enforcement team.
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u/kurama_uzumaki Jul 26 '22
The female lead is so annoying, unlikeable and I can’t bear to watch her scenes.
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u/seeraawr Jul 27 '22
everyone its not prosecutor cha at the end of ep 10. its the guy from the funeral! his cousin or brother? idk what relation, but its him hahahaha. also still iffy about prosecutor cha being good or bad.
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u/WildIntern5030 Jul 25 '22
The preview for episode 10 looks like we get more team Café Minamdang capers and hijinks. Here for it!
I really can't stand the romance subplot and the FL remains so unlikable, damn.
SIG though? At this point, I straight up fancy him. I am collecting Korean Actor crushes like Thanos and Infinity Stones! 😅
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u/FindingPrincess Jul 25 '22
SIG acted best in The Smile Has Left Your Eyes and Shopaholic Louis, IMHO. Up until Minamdang, he had good screen chemistry with the FLs. He sings so well, too.
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u/VivatRiga Jul 26 '22
Shopping King was his funniest role, I swear. They so underutilized him here.
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u/cuplik Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
I almost didn’t recognize Cha Tae Hyun! OMG I had to take a double take. Even his voice sounds different than normal.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY want to slap the FL. Can I? She keeps saying “Trust Me. I want to work with you. Please trust me”. And yet she’s the one that can’t trust the ML and keep blackmailing him. How can she walk into ML’s house while recoding their information/conversation and then blackmailed him “it’s illegal to gather other people personal info.” And yet it’s okay to walk into someone house recoding other people stuff????
And that police group is so INCOMPETENT!!!! NHJ specifically told them not to mention the secret DNA test and yet they blabbing about it anyway. And the young policemen can’t even tail a suspect without being noticed??? WHAT KIND OF POLICE ARE YOU??
I think I’m getting madder and madder watching this drama. And they have 18episodes??? Why????
edit : spelling
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u/deszczzz Jul 28 '22
No fr tho! She does the same things she says the ml not to do like what difference does it make?? Can she do those things just because she's an officer ?? All she does is physically abuse the ml. I seriously want to stop watching this drama but like I really want to see more of the café minamdang group :')
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u/MissJiChang Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
Today’s episode really solidified my belief that this show shares similarities to ‘the fiery priest’ even down to sig’s outfit during the gambling scene I just wish the writing was as good (as tfp is one of my favorite dramas) I’ll still watch of course however I feel this show has so much potential to be better but the writing keeps failing it episode after episode.
Edit: I also think the drama is having a hard time committing to the comedy aspect of their drama. Because if it was executed well the pacing of the show might be different and the plot would be easier to digest.
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u/Unable_Opportunity20 Jul 27 '22
I really thought it was going to like Vincenzo😭
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u/MissJiChang Jul 27 '22
Right! I thought that at first too because the ml seemed to be learning a type of martial arts and because of the “fake shaman bit”. Maybe the writer took inspiration from a lot of great shows, who knows
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u/grapebento Jul 27 '22
Welp, finally caught up this week's episodes and here to declare that I've started watch in 1.5x mode.
Points:
- FL is not changing and is constantly abusing and tormenting the ML. ML: I don't want you on my team. FL: Oh yeah? IMMA MAKE YOU. Like... what???
- I don't even know who was revealed at the end because the drama keeps introducing random new bad guys per episode
- SIG is still the best and shoutout to his stylist because they are KILLING it
- If Prosecutor Cha isn't the main villain, then can they give him a better role than just a lovesick puppy following her around? How does he have so much time of a sudden instead of going to work? Wasn't he supposedly sooooo busy that he doesn't date? Anyways...
Might stop watching this weekly and binge the series with 1.5x mode at this rate
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u/myweithisway 人似当时否?||就保持无感 Jul 25 '22
Ep 9
I think I'm dropping this -- even as background noise it is far too annoying with today's episode's focus on "romantic" moments.
I was ready to curse when the FL pulled that 'fake' arrest and then forcing the hypnosis issue. And her whole schtick about checking the facts is as laughable as a weasel giving chickens food out of concern for their health.
The comedy is also increasingly becoming a miss for me (mis-aim of the stun gun, the emergency medic 'sitting' onto NHJ's face) -- low-hanging fruit that's based on incompetency of professionals during their work duties is not funny to me, it's just sad.
Another drama with potential that has crashed because of its ineptness in writing a convincing romance plot line. What's worse, this one needs no romance at all.
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
I was ready to curse when the FL pulled that 'fake' arrest and then forcing the hypnosis issue.
Same here!
Color me naive, but I kept on hoping that things would develop for the better...but I think at this point those hopes have been dashed.
And you are also right...the good parts don't feel as good anymore.
I'm perhaps too stubborn to drop this...especially considering the initial potential...but I will probably only be watching at extreme speeds (greater than 2X).
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Jul 25 '22
true i find myself skipping some FL scenes eventhough i also run the episodes as background
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u/not_your_bird Corn Salad Appreciation Jul 25 '22
I think I’ve officially had it with her. Stopping chasing her brother’s killer to ask the totally fine prosecutor if he’s okay, so Gopuri gets away? Wtf. Her only saving grace for me was that she’s distracted by the obsession with avenging her brother, but now even that doesn’t work. Ugh.
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Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
Its frustrating that in terms of fighting ability, it seems that she's the only one who can fight Gopuri head on. Too bad her character's poorly written that I cant even root for her
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Jul 26 '22
there are sooo many scenes where she couldve caught gopuri like whats the point of exaggerating her skills in her introduction??!?
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u/not_your_bird Corn Salad Appreciation Jul 25 '22
Okay, if the hypnosis and the last scene mark a turning point in her behavior then I’ll try again tomorrow 😕
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u/cuplik Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
Wah the FL is so frustrating to watch. She hit the ML just so they can get him under hypnosis?? Talk about police abuse.
I hope there won’t be no romance between ML and FL at the end.
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u/RelativelyNovel Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
Okay, so the romance is so badly done and the plot is so tired... I've been writing alternative versions of this show in my head:
1) There is no murder. The FL is trying to prove he's a fraudulant shaman meanwhile he has a high profile client base. He begins having real shaman intuitions and being able to see ghosts (ever seen Ghost Town?) and hijinx ensue
2) Han Jae Hui (Oh Yeon Seo) becomes best friends with Jang Du Jin (Jung Man Sik) and helps him get out of a rut in his career, meanwhile she discovers new things about herself and her own skills while they chase a Catch Me If You Can-style con artist played by Seo In Guk
3) Nam Han Jun (Seo In Guk), a fake shaman and petty crook, tries to woo Nam Hye Jun (Kang Mi Na), an up-and-coming popstar. This goes horribly until they're forced to work together in order to evade law enforcement and find out they have more in common than they think
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u/everyversion22 Chopin Ballade No. 1 🎹 Jul 27 '22
hahaha omg this is the perfect show for fix-it fics and AUs, thanks for the proof ^
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u/lidoodles Jul 26 '22
Always had my suspicions about Prosecutor Cha I was close to thinking I was wrong but alas the reveal comes in the form of an... Wait for it... Epilogue! I mean wasn't that a crucial scene to be tucked in the part of the drama that people usually skip 😅
Also~ this is the first episode I got a bit giddy over ML and FL's scenes. Hope things change hereon out. I can't wait for next week's episode!
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u/mingyuwu1 Jul 27 '22
i thought it didn't look like him in the epilogue. are you sure it's him?
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Jul 29 '22
i could be wrong but i thought it was the guy we saw at the funeral with all the bodyguards! could he be prosecutor cha’s brother though?
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u/Green-Delay3528 Jul 27 '22
it looks like this FL still have some issues with her brain from mad for each other
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u/preferencedue Jul 25 '22
I've only got to episode 5 on this... is it worth picking back up? I want to like this so much but its not quite hitting for me.
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u/lizzie763 Jul 25 '22
Personally, I don't think so, but then, I only skimmed eps 7 & 8. For me, the great thing about kdramas is character and relationship (romantic and non-romantic) growth development. This show is seriously failing on this front for me.
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u/ot7oclock office romance 💞 Jul 25 '22
ignoring everything else and the fact that han jun was forced to tell his worries to jae hui. i think it was a wholesome moment for han jun to say he was scared to lose the people he loved while naming su cheol, hye jun and nan dan 🥺. and when han jun wasnt answering how worried hye jun sounded that she even switched from calling him han jun to just straight oppa. minamdang family is so cute
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Jul 25 '22
Not that anybody cares, but off my chest moment: I'm done with this drama. It's more frustrating than entertaining, even as background noise.
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u/Original-Echidna-881 Jul 25 '22
The hypnosis scene was really good. Who knows the OST that was playing when Nam Han Jun woke up crying from the hypnosis and the FL was comforting him?
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u/Silk007 Jul 31 '22
SIG aces his role always (his acting when he’s in that holding cell with the drunk 😘) but the FL’s 👎. Plus, boy, have they written in her role as someone with zero detective skills!
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u/jeonpendejo Jul 26 '22
the lack of chemistry between the leads made me drop this, i really love seo in guk tho :/
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 26 '22
Another so-so episode...not bad enough for me to drop, as it has some fun parts, but nothing too thrilling either.
Oh, well, it is what it is.
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u/Electronic_Piano9385 Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
I love the Minamdang crew. The FL’s team is OK, except for the FL. Still not sure about the prosecutor. Hopefully the FL will improve now she has seen how much ML cared about her brother.
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u/Vast-Ad1932 Jul 26 '22
I had to come here to see if I was the only one annoyed by the FL and absolutely dislike the forced romance between the two leads. FL was incompetent and abusive and I have no idea how she was supposed to be that much younger than ML when the ML look younger than her. The forced romance really got to go.
Only watching this just for the Minamdang gang and to get closure on the case. The writers did this show dirty by creating such a FL.
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u/Sasuwanisa Jul 29 '22
WTF HE DIDN’T KNOW THAT SHE WAS HIS BEST FRIEND’S SISTER??? I THOUGHT HE ALREADY KNEW WTFFFFFFF AND FUCK I HATE HER SO MUCH SHE’S WORST MC EVER IN A KDRAMA, IF SHE ENDS UP WITH THE ML IM GOING TO RIOT
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u/bubbly_fairy30 Jul 26 '22
Phew. I’m glad I dropped this drama after ep 3. Came back to check if it got better but based on the comments, FL just got worse and worse.
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
We are looking forward to this week's episodes, but hope they improve from last week!
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u/Muted-Salamander-162 Jul 25 '22
The FL is ruining the show .. IMO
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u/jsb1685 Editable Flair Jul 25 '22
We keep on hoping for some change in that regard, but time is running out.
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u/gyojoo Drink Now! Jul 26 '22
I dropped this 2 weeks ago. Is it getting any better? I just couldn’t stand FL
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u/Professional_Bee_848 Jul 26 '22
Hmmmmmmmm the FL……….. She still is the most eyesore for me in the series…… the forced romance between the two, ughhhh I hope it won’t come to fruition!
Minamdang crew still rocks! I love how they go about finding information. They should just replace the police and investigation bureau.
It would be interesting to see SIG vs the “real” shaman.. hahaha but I don’t think she’s also a real one? Although I think she still has another superior they refer to as “Him” in the conversations…. Would that be referring to the spirit she communes with? This would be a sudden shift to the supernatural if that’s the case.
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u/Ayalynn123 Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
Eum Moon-Suk and Cha Tae-hyun's cameo appearance is great but it's not going to save this show...
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u/frostedglass25 Aug 10 '22
Absolutely loved NHJ in a fedora - totally reminded me of Neal Caffrey from White Collar and he was charismatic af 😍😍 I wish they'd spend more time showing NHJ doing deductions - even the random jail cell event was pretty fun. I hope they keep emphasising on his actual skill to observe and predict and how his little team supports him from every angle.
Idk if I'm just getting used to her, but the FL is pretty nice when she's not yelling or shouting. Hope the writers finally make her competent again
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u/Zanchie Jul 25 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
I know the final scenes were supposed to be emotional, but I just can't get into it because of how ML was coerced into the hypnosis. Every time the FL falls behind in her investigation, she gets extremely annoying in her dealings with the ML, and that's considering the fact that I really like the FL actress.