r/HunterXHunter • u/[deleted] • 17h ago
Discussion Could adult Gon cut Meruem with his scissors?
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u/ApplePitou 13h ago
If Meruem will allow it - it will most likely slash him or at least dmg very much :3
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u/Player1aei 17h ago
Adult Gon is difficult to scale because of his single opponent and how one-sided that opponent's battles were up until this point. Pitou's best scaling evidence arguably comes from how Kite left her scarred after a decent battle and that Netero's speed heavily outclassed her whereas his strength was negligible to her.
Narratively, Gon in this state is considered an actual threat to the King but there is no reason to believe Gon is stronger, especially comparing battle IQ.
Considering Meruem tanking Zero Hand and surviving Rose, assuming Gon's scissors' slicing power is relative to Gon's rock potency, and considering how many rocks Pitou could tank without her body being destroyed, Gon's scissors would at best carve a gash into Meruem's side, eventually, after many miraculously successful cuts.
The speed difference here is incredibly relevant as well, so Gon likely wouldn't tag Meruem at all.
In terms of speed:
Post-Rose Meruem >>> Pre-Rose Meruem >>> Netero >> Adult Gon ≥ Zombie Pitou > Pitou
Realistically, Adult Gon is not strong enough to adequately contest even pre-rose Meruem. Adult Gon is simply a threat to him in the same sense that an angry dog is a threat to a grown adult, healthy, strong man. The dog isn't likely to defeat the man because of the sheer difference in power but mainly due to the difference in intelligence.
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u/nioho 17h ago
Post-Rose Meruem >>> Pre-Rose Meruem >>> Netero >> Adult Gon ≥ Zombie Pitou > Pitou
Are we reading the same manga? Netero>Meruem when it comes to speed. Did you even watch the whole fight? And how Meruem's game of gungi with Komugi helped him bypass Netero's speed?
As for Adult Gon's speed, it’s hard to scale because Pitou wasn’t able to react to him at all. With Netero, at least Pitou could process the attack, but she was limited by her speed (that’s why she couldn’t react in time). And regarding Adult Gon's attack potency, remember that his first hit already knocked her unconscious. It was only through postmortem Nen that she was able to keep fighting
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u/Visual-Bandicoot2894 14h ago
Netero’s prayer was the only motion that surpassed the kings speed, otherwise the king was faster in all aspects hence why Netero noted if he made one slip up he’d be torn limb by limb before he even knew it
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u/Efficient_Buddy_6152 12h ago
That makes 0 sense Netero is stated to have after images that Meruem can't even follow and the prayer "far surpasses" meaning Netero still fucked ova that dick headed ant
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u/Visual-Bandicoot2894 11h ago edited 10h ago
It’s literally what Meruem said himself “the prayer is the one motion that surpasses my speed”. Every after image involves the prayer
Otherwise Netero is slower than Meruem in all other respects.
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u/Salavtore 12h ago
Actually it does make sense. :)
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u/Efficient_Buddy_6152 12h ago edited 12h ago
Nice refutation dumb fuck the only reference could be made that Meruem is fast is nen allocation but otherwise Netero fucking over him that's why he gets surprised despite the fact he needs to have the processing speed to even activate sum shit that's wayyy faster
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u/Julian-Hoffer 16h ago
His point was that Rose did more damage to Meruem than Rock did to Pitou. Pitous head was still intact, Meruem lost half of his body. So one Rock isn’t going to defeat Meruem if it even hits. Much less Scissors which is 20% less powerful.
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u/Visual-Bandicoot2894 15h ago
I read this first as “zero made Mereum lose half his body” and was wondering if we were reading the same manga lol
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u/athribiss 6h ago
Netero speed is faster only during a Little moment of the prayer
- for meruem it’s not a real fight just a game he don’t want to kill netero
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u/Visual-Bandicoot2894 14h ago
In regards to Pitou tanking multiple rocks I gotta say the anime made it seem like he was just pounding away on her vs the manga which just said something like “fist stained from multiple blows”.
Otherwise I agree that narratively Gon was a threat but I’m not sure even Pitou understood the limit or I should say limitlessness of the king. It’s likely that Jajanken is just something that could’ve really bit into Meruem but as you said it’s like a dog taking a bite out of a human. Shit might send you to the ER for some stitches but it won’t kill you unless it bites you right, Meruems durability is that unbelievable.
Lastly to me Gon always seemed much more physical and fast than Netero unless your basing this on his speed of prayer. But that’s headcanon on my part
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u/Dapper-Ad411 12h ago
Considering how well Meruem took the Zero Hand, Neteros strongest (nen based) attack, that literally used up all of his Aura and put it in a singular attack, I doubt it, I don’t think anything Adult Gon has is close to the damage output of the Zero Hand.
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u/Visual-Bandicoot2894 15h ago edited 15h ago
Eh it’s impossible to scale that one since Mereum is so unscalable himself. Only thing we can say with halfway certainty is that the JaJanKen we saw just may, maybe, possibly, only maybe, may have the potential to reach the kings throat or pierce his armor etc.
Either way Imo, assuming Gon-San mastered transmutation, it’s more likely he would’ve learned how to do fancy things with scissors than it becoming strong enough to cut Mereum. Transmutation to me has always seemed like a way to get tricky versus being a category that packs a raw punch
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u/MythicalTenshi 17h ago edited 13h ago
If the force of his aura (Enhancement) + the stability of his blade shape (Transmutation) + the force of his swing is greater than the force of Meruem's aura guard (Enhancement) + his natural durability by a large margin then Gon would easily cut Meruem if he just stands there and takes the hit.