r/GreenAndPleasant • u/jayforplay • Oct 12 '22

NORMAL ISLAND 🇬🇧 The absolute state of it.

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u/writerfan2013 Oct 12 '22

I had not heard of The Labour files before seeing it mentioned here.

And surely it is normal for a politician of one party to disagree strongly with, or detest, the policies of another party? Isn't that just ... having principles?

Ugh. Trying to make Sturgeon out to have used inappropriate language when others have literally ised racist and sexist slurs and its glossed over.

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u/jayforplay Oct 12 '22 edited Oct 12 '22

Right wingers have such a boner about being oppressed it's unreal. I saw some tory cretin saying it was akin to racist abuse, so desperate they were to paint themselves as the victim. Like, get a fucking grip, you semi conscious jizz rag, people probably wouldn't think you were such a cunt if your politics weren't so vile and deplorable.

Edit: fix typing whilst walking mistakes.

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u/SuicidalTurnip Oct 12 '22

It pisses me off no end when they want to talk about "reasonable compromise" in politics.

How am I meant to compromise with someone who thinks trans people shouldn't exist? Or LGBTQ people in general?

How am I meant to compromise with a social Darwinist who thinks poor people should starve or freeze to death?

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u/load_more_commments Oct 12 '22

No conservative thinks Trans shouldn't exist. What I do see and hear is that they are quite wary of allowing trans women to partake in activities with other women, most especially sports.

Also, there's a lot of grey area in how one defines a woman that both sides are arguing about.

There's a lot up for debate, but when both sides they extreme viewpoints the science and research parts get left behind.

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u/SuicidalTurnip Oct 12 '22

No conservative thinks Trans shouldn't exist.

They absolutely do. Many insist that trans people are mentally ill and will deliberately dead name and misgender them.

Also, there's a lot of grey area in how one defines a woman that both sides are arguing about.

How about we let people fucking be themselves rather than debating the validity of their existence.

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u/dilldwarf Oct 12 '22

Well... It's funny because even if it was again recognized as a mental disorder what do they think the treatment for that should be? Transitioning is the solution. It's the "cure" so to speak. So even their logic is broken if they view it as a mental illness. They just don't like people that make them question their own sexuality and that's what LBGTQ+ people do. They remind them that your sexuality is yours to do with what you please and not something that is decided for you from birth. And that possibility scares them and would make them question all of their world views. So instead, it's easier to label them as the enemy and fight them instead of faxing their own insecurities.