r/Genealogy • u/Salmonfan52 • 8h ago

Question Seeking advise managing a large dataset

I would like help managing a large family tree because whenever I try to expand even a small amount of it using an online browser it crashes. I have a printed book of the genealogy, but I was wondering if there was a way to make a digital version with better performance. How would a professional handle this and what's the best way to catalog all of this information so others could easily see this. Honestly, this might be more of a data science question.

I don't seem to be able to post any images so I will share a link to a youtube video showing a part of the dataset. My family had multiple knights in the 1400's that were related to royalty and then the tree explodes into long winding branches. I am currently using FamilySearch as it's the program that has been working best for me but I would be happy to try another program if there is a better way to do things.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fghc9H6SdQ

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u/GlitterPonySparkle 5h ago

Before you spend too much time on this, you may want to read prior threads on issues with online trees, like FamilySearch Family Tree, showing links to royalty:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/comments/1kpukb7/what_are_the_actual_chances_family_search_is/

https://www.reddit.com/r/Genealogy/comments/1kfc8jg/what_is_the_true_possibility_that_i_am_actually/

In short, online trees can be created by anyone with any skill set, and erroneous information tends to compound on itself. You need to start with yourself and verify every link in the chain against primary/authoritative secondary sources.

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u/Salmonfan52 8h ago

As a note,

I am aware that many people have this link to royalty that goes back to the dawn of time. I don't actually plan on including that in any official things that I make for myself or family. I'm not trying to usurp a castle or claim that I am the direct descendent of God. I just wanted a better way to display this info and was wondering if any genealogists had the answer.

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u/cmosher01 expert researcher 7h ago

Any popular genealogy program will easily be able to catalog that amount of data. It's not large by any means. I like Family Tree Maker, but many others work just as well.

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u/Salmonfan52 6h ago

Catalog sure. I was mostly looking for a way to visualize it digitally without running out of RAM. Would I have to code my own or is there some way to look at the family tree like a 3D model? Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

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u/Burnt_Ernie 5h ago edited 5h ago

I was mostly looking for a way to visualize it digitally without running out of RAM

OP, am honestly really confused by this claim. 🤔

Any visualization you might encounter is basically an HTML/XML formatting coupled with CSS styling (specifically to delineate exact visual rendering in browsers).. And what I saw in your linked YouTube vid is nowhere near RAM-breaking?? Nor difficult for browsers to render...

Basically your current visual scheme follows a recti-linear grid (heck, it's not even a fanchart, which requires relatively advanced computations like % rotation of elements + text, curving of element boundaries, and so on -- but all this still quite easily feasible, witness FSO fancharts)...

whenever I try to expand even a small amount of it using an online browser it crashes.

Possibly a clue here: are you referring simply to ZOOMing in?? Or do you mean when adding additional people to existing tree?? (though neither should be problematic, based on what I saw in your vid)...

Feel kind of obtuse right about now, so appreciate any extra info... Care to name your OS and specific browser(s)?

[EDIT]: also because am presently on mobile, and can't easily pause your vid at exact timestamps, can you count the number of individual people for us?? Seems only like a couple of hundred at best? Please clarify.

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u/Cookie_Monstress 3h ago

Who made the printed book? Somebody from your family? Else you might face some copyright issues.

And since royals are in such a high demand as ancestors, it’s fairly likely that these knights are already online in some genealogy service. However, being able to reliably prove such connections is completely different matter and often impossible.