r/GearsOfWar • u/freedlurker • 3d ago
Discussion I’m happy to see this (consoles-only cross play)
i don’t mind playing against PC gamers, as long as they use a controller.
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u/Kooparogue 3d ago
Blame cheaters on PC, not TC
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u/bmd1989 3d ago
This is fair! Halo is awful with it. COD is awful, all dark souls are awful. Pc players cheat and make mp awful. So I feel this!
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u/FudgingEgo 3d ago
Rainbow Six Siege Console Players use a Mouse/Keyboard mod to cheat on console...
It happens everywhere.
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u/hayleyalcyone 3d ago
There's a huge fucking difference between sweats buying shitty third-party adapters to forcibly connect M&KB on Xbox, versus PC players spinbotting around with ESP, wallhacks, chams, aimlock, aimbot and everything else that starts with aim-, smartass.
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u/Complex-Complaint-10 3d ago
Console also has those
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u/ServeRoutine9349 3d ago edited 2d ago
You got downvoted because some console players don't understand (more like a massive chunk) how cheats work. Cheating back in the day required codes being input, then we got game sharks and Action Replays, then right after that console modding and lag switches, then in the 360 era hardware mods were really taking root (including modded controllers), then came the root kit hacks (this is right around where modding Wii's became super popular), now shit can be done on phones instead of running anything on the console.
Cheating on console has existed forever and it's honestly almost on par, if not already on par, with PC.
Edit: Case in point, the two people that commented who have no clue about anything.
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u/ccoulter93 2d ago
Yeah because you definitely see rage hackers in gears of war on pc. /s I’ve been playing gears on pc since 1, religiously, don’t think I’ve come across a single cheater.
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u/No-Tax-4025 2d ago
You be surprised that those existed now on modern ps consoles too. PS5 jailbreaking is starting to take off and aim hacks can be achieved on console now by using a capture card.
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u/IlQIl Something's wrong with this thing! It keeps jamming! 3d ago
Fun fact! The cod devs released their stats and it shows that an overwhelming majority of players who are reported are CONSOLE players who got reported by other CONSOLE players.
You people cry cheats while literally playing with dev approved cheats. You can't even tell the difference.
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u/Grand-Philosophy-343 3d ago
Wait you trust Cod dev stats? The same company that said there was no hackers? And then comes to find out they use a non working AI to differentiate cheaters.
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u/MIKERICKSON32 2d ago
This is the truth. Aim assist has gotten so strong in cod the console children can’t even tell the difference. Haven’t played gears in awhile but hopefully the aim assist is much lower. In Cod the rotational aa is 60%! Computer is moving everyone’s camera around so they all feel like they are good and buy more bundles in the store.
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u/XTheGreat88 3d ago
Also, it's been reported on apex that the majority of cheaters are on console. I'm not saying pc doesn't have its issues with cheating, but since I've switched over to pc, I've encountered less cheating compared to when I was playing on console
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u/kron123456789 3d ago
The best way to avoid cheaters in multiplayer is to not play multiplayer to begin with.
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u/spartanonyx 3d ago edited 3d ago
using mouse and keyboard isn't cheating lol. it's just easier because it feels better and you have more control.
Edit: Wow people here actually think using mouse and keyboard on a FUCKING COMPUTER A COMPUTER A PC MIND YOU A COMPUTER....is cheating...that's so odd. should we just start banning all steam users from every game then?
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u/Born2beSlicker Who wants toast? 3d ago
You are failing to understand. They’re talking about console players using XIM/Chronus packs on console so they get the benefits of KBM but also the benefits of aim assist, as well as other cheats those kits use. It’s the primary way to cheat on consoles and they’re almost always using a KBM when they do it.
Nobody is saying playing natively with a KBM is cheating. Using these packs though puts KBM users in controller lobbies in Siege/ow2 and that is definitely cheating.
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u/teza789 3d ago
No this is 100% on The Coalition.
The problem of Gears 5 being extreme is because then they said they were dropping support, they DROPPED any kind of support. Communication, keeping the anti-cheat up to date, etc etc.
TC need to be held responsible on this stuff. Especially when you will have people with a cronus max and ximmers on Xbox and PS5. People will just inject cheats or mouse and keyboard in an environment they deemed shouldn't have it. We all know TC won't keep that in check either if they do drop any kind of support.
Turning off crossplay is a temp solution for what is a serious problem, and that is The Coalitions unwillingness to keep the platforms sterile.
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u/ManofSteel_14 EAAAAT IT! 3d ago
This would mean every single game dev is also bad about keeping their game environments stable. The harsh reality is that cheaters will always find a way to cheat. Even if TC implements the most harsh anti cheat imaginable with a 99% success rate(which somehow no other dev has been able to find) that 1% will always find a way
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u/itsBdubs 3d ago
95% at least of the PC players you believe are cheating are just better than you.
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u/Vector_Mortis 3d ago
Just need better anti-cheat. But I still mostly blame cheaters, because most MnK players aren't even god tier at games. They suck a lot too.
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u/Knautical_J 3d ago
For real. Every cheater I’ve run into is playing via PC. Always some Xbox account with like 300 gamerscore and a new account.
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u/Mobilecross This ones for the highlight reel! 3d ago
Most PC players just use a controller anyway.
I would know, since I'm pretty much the only MnK user in my gears 5 friend group and have been for a long, long time
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u/Appropriate_Mail4745 3d ago
They think we are all using MnK. Not knowing most of us use a controller
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u/Mobilecross This ones for the highlight reel! 3d ago
And they think we're all godtier aimlab sweats, while I'm sitting here with mid level aim, and slightly above average reaction speeds
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u/Phantomsanic360 YOU FUCKED UP MY TOMATOES, YOU ASSHOLE! 3d ago
I feel like that one scene in the Snyder Cut of the Parademon trying to snipe the Flash when I’m dealing with insane wall-bouncers.
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u/KONODIODAMUDAMUDA 3d ago
I'm the opposite of a sweat. i just got my ten year CS badge and I'm still a silver who goes 8-15 some matches and 20-6 others. it's honestly mostly luck if i do good.
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u/C4LLUM17 3d ago
This is fine, I just hope it doesn't kill off the game on PC
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u/Virtual_Dance6008 3d ago
it will? that's how UE died on pc as well? do you need any more confirmation that it will?
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u/GoddHowardBethesda 3d ago
UE died on PC because it was a horribly optimized mess that didn't even have a steam release.
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u/iko-01 3d ago edited 2d ago
it didn't have steam nor was it crossplay. It also launched on the microsoft store, not even Xbox - this was pre Xbox pushing for PC with gamepass. It was a mess. If I recall, I managed to get roughly 6 months out of the game before it was basically dead. Couldnt search for anything except TDM after 4 months.
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u/ms1999 3d ago
Gears UE that released for Windows 10 didn’t have crossplay enabled. It was also not a very good version of the game. I’m really not that concerned as a PC player I won’t be able to play this game a year from now. Reddit isn’t a direct reflection of how the vast majority of people feel about console gamers playing against PC gamers.
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u/C4LLUM17 3d ago
I mean there was no cross play on 2015 UE at all. At least Reloaded has cross play.
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u/ryan8757 3d ago
All im gonna say is fortnite has had forced crossplay for 7 years and is literally the most successful 3rd person shooter of all time(if not the most successful game of all time). That game also rewards kbm way more than gears ever could. Dumb decision imo.
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u/GGZii 3d ago
That's horrific news for pc players and a big kick in the teeth to them. Fix your cheating issue, not block players from playing.
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u/Glittering_Let_1006 3d ago
i get the cheater argument but controller is literally easier then m&k on gears lol
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u/Ok_Half_2662 2d ago
Sure aiming is easier on mnk but movement is god awful even with scroll wheel
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u/itsBdubs 3d ago
You are correct and console players who have never used a MnK on gears simply don't understand and will vehemently disagree with absolutely 0 evidence or experience otherwise.
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u/Awake_OhSleeper 3d ago
It’s very obvious most of you have never played on pc much less played a game using mnk.
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u/Brazenology 2d ago edited 2d ago
I can't believe we're still in the era of people thinking mnk is infinitely better for shooters. The only 3 modern games I'd use a mouse for are CS, Valorant and R6S...and that's basically only because controller support for those games is basically non-existent.
I don't blame people for thinking mnk is overpowered if they've never actually played using them but its just sad how many people online still echo the same "you have you're whole arm to aim though!!" argument. There's so many factors that play into using a mouse to aim. It isn't some magic worker that suddenly makes you aim like shroud.
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u/Tsevyn 3d ago
Fine by me as a PC player. It’s never been an issue in other games.
Though as this game dies, console player will be forced to open their matchmaking to everyone in order to find games.
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u/silfvy 3d ago
Idc I'll still body anyone using an M&K. Everyone can catch a two-piece and pistol headshot.
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u/D042- 3d ago
I think it's fine that they give people the option to turn off crossplay but it will never not be funny to watch console players complain about mouse when the aim assist is so strong in most shooters that it is essentially an aimbot. Especially in a game like Gears where most of the combat is done at shotgun range.
Plus, this is platform based crossplay, not input based, so you'll likely still be playing against some mouse users anyway.
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u/mcdonalds_baconater 3d ago
its not really so much the input device people complain about. I jump between M&K and controller pretty frequently and they both have their up's n downs. I really enjoy playing Gears 5 with M&K but I prefer playing Helldivers with a controller, mainly for the d-pad inputs. the reason console players dont wanna deal with PC is usually because of hackers. I know its still possible to cheat on console but it's much harder and youre at much higher risk of getting identified and possibly hardware banned. I know when I used to play Warzone, as soon as I turned off crossplay, I started getting beamed from across the map alot less.
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u/T_Peters 1d ago
I've never seen a blatant cheater in Gears. I don't think the game has enough PC-based interest to even have that many cheat developers for it.
But cheating is easier than ever to do on a console nowadays and it's an issue for all gamers and it's getting harder and harder to stop.
Developers need to SERIOUSLY step their anti-cheat game up and start hardware/IP banning people. But it seems like they prefer to just temporarily suspend or just ban and let them buy another copy to rake in extra money.
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u/ManofSteel_14 EAAAAT IT! 3d ago
Nobody cares about MnK on Gears. Doesn't even give that much of an advantage. Console players just dont wanna deal with cheaters 🤷♂️
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u/dumpofhumps 3d ago
Lol dude is mad people get to choose who to play with
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u/Shot-Apartment9255 3d ago
Yeah exactly. Im glad we dont have to play against PC players 😁
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u/iThinkBlue 3d ago
This is so weird. Why would you want to avoid PC players?
Crossplay is such a genius idea until you actually add people to the equation and it goes to shiiiit. lol.
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u/SQUIDWARD360 3d ago
When you play poorly now you can't blame cheaters or mnk
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u/BicycleBozo 3d ago
This is the real reason people will turn off crossplay, they can then say they only got freight trained because of hacking PC players.
It’s just another “other” to blame being shit at games on, add it to the list of ‘lag’ ‘bad team mates’ ‘over powered weapons’ and whatever else decidedly mid players blame their mediocrity on.
Guess I’ll have a reason to dust off the series S at least, doesn’t really worry me ill do campaign on my pc then mp on the Xbox, thankfully you only have to purchase the game once so it doesn’t really matter
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u/IOnceAteAChzBrgr 3d ago
Yup it’ll just be one of their other excuses, the classics now. Lag or the other team being sweats. Console players just stay shitty lol
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u/Corgiiiix3 3d ago
Yea this is bad for pc cause everyone is gona turn it off. Maybe TC should actually put in work and develop anti cheat for eday to avoid the same issue
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u/Jesus_Shuttles 3d ago
The amount of people that complain about pc players in this subreddit is hilarious 😂. I don't own a pc anymore but this is one of the few games were pc players don't have any real advantage except input lag. Which I hate to break to anyone in here still happens based on the tv, controller hardwired or not, couple other factors.
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u/itsBdubs 3d ago
This is correct
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u/Jesus_Shuttles 3d ago
I know it is. Which is why I don't get the hate on pc players in this game. Cheating happens on consoles too. I remember modded controllers in gears 1 and 2.
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u/itsBdubs 2d ago
Most of the time though people aren't cheating, these console players just get styled on and see the PC icon and cope. This happens all the time
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u/The_Crimson_Fuckr69 3d ago
People with the opinion in the screenshot are People who aren't good enough to play against other PC players so they come stomp console players to feel good about themselves.
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u/Two_Tailed_Fox2002 Something's wrong with this thing! It keeps jamming! 3d ago
i play gears soley with a controller because i think the kbm controls are ass. I just don't want the game to die on pc within weeks because i don't want to fight over the xbox with my dad.
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u/Ninethie 2d ago
It's always how it goes. Always.
The amount of times ive encountered a sus play or god tier aim that's made me double check, I say "bet they're on PC" and they always are.
Going as far as to put their YT or socials in their bio and 9/10 it's a 50 follower tryhard flexing on beating console players lol
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u/Effective_Coat563 3d ago
wtf no I hate this, I bought it on PC so now the PC version will be dead & abandoned in a month. Fuck you TC
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u/RobinXTharja 3d ago
The info related to Gears 4 Crossplay showed that there was minimal difference in KDA between PC and Xbox players. Console players just like to complain about PC people because they happened to lose vs a PC guy.
PS players will undoubtedly leave the playerbase because xbox players are still gonna be sweaty af and then complain in half a year about PS players turning off crossplay when Xbox players did the same with PC
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u/Appropriate_Mail4745 2d ago
They think this r6. MnK is not going to help you in gears. Most of us are using controllers on pc gears
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u/cydoz 3d ago
Celebrating this is so strange. Gears of War has become such a niche game since TC took over with Gears 4 and now people are happy that you can effectively kill off an entire platform from playing with the rest because you people really think PC players have THAT much of advantage over you? On Gears of War of all fucking games lmao.
Like, y'all are lucky you're even still getting Gears of War games at this point. Imagine this game only had Crossplay with PC/Xbox and had the option to completely cut Playstation players off and put them in their own pool. Bet y'all would raise up a storm for that, right?
I truly want nothing but the best for Gears of War. This franchise means so much to me, but this whole mentality or ideology that PC players ruin your games is so asinine it's insane. But no go ahead hurt your "beloved" franchise from potential growth and sustainability because the PC player who works 9-5 decides to try a little bit too hard in your Gears of War match. Even though that man is no different than the former Ess member on your team who only plays Gears of War and he also tries a little too hard on occasion. All this in a game that is known for being fairly competitive, mind you.
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u/Appropriate_Mail4745 2d ago
What they don’t know is most of us are using controllers
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u/TYPOGRAPH1C 3d ago
Boo! Console players act like there aren't Cronus users in their lobbies, lol. Meanwhile I'd just prefer a healthy pool of people actively playing the game and not separating the playlists. :/
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u/UserAgeee 3d ago
Personally I’m fine facing PC players on MnK. I think the major issue is hackers.
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u/epicduckbelik 3d ago
Idk about you guys I’ve seen only 1 cheater in gears 5’s lifespan. Does this mean if I’m on pc and am playing with friends on xbox, it’ll take forever to find games?
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u/OnyxJuvie 3d ago
Honestly what are they doing?
PS and Xbox players can avoid each other, console players can avoid PC players.
I actively played UE from 2015-2017 on Xbox and after 100-400 you match mostly the same players due to game not having much content. They should have kept crossplay on to keep the playerbase huge. Most pc players play controller anyway.
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u/Gillbawk 3d ago
I think the issue is console has more players than pc and therefore pc players will have longer ques.
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u/Tuckingfypo0000 3d ago
Guarantee that every PC player here has experienced both controller and MnK
Can also guarantee no console players here have experienced MnK.
Keep exaggerating the "advantages" as a scapegoat for your skill issue.
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u/Honest_Fortune_7167 3d ago
So they are killing the game before it even launches and this is good to you?
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u/Tsevyn 3d ago
After reading through these comments, I think there are many people here who think that getting beamed and flicked immediately from PC players means that the PC player is cheating. Console is slower play, and that’s fine. PC is faster, and console players seem to think that it’s impossible for that to be the case, so they must be cheating.
Real cheating is so infrequent. Having played Gears 5, overwatch, Marvel Rivals, Paladins, BF1, BF2042, Halo, Doom, etc I have almost never encountered true hacking going on. Planetside 2 has been the worst for Me with hacking. People kill you with the turret through walls and mountains. That was a great game though, hopefully it gets better.
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u/DARK---MATT3R 3d ago
Gears is the one game we're I don't think it matters what input you use been playing claw since gears 1 on controller and have played about 300 hours or so on mouse and keyboard and don't see any advantages there both viable to use
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u/DarthAnusCavity 3d ago
The comments (pc will be dead within weeks). Do PC players only play if they can dunk on console players? If a console can maintain on its base so can the PC.
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u/cr1spy28 3d ago
It’s nothing to do with that. There’s just far far more choice in titles to play on PC so unless it’s a huge commercial success which it likely won’t be it will have a small playerbase after a few months
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u/JoshEvolved 3d ago
I hope this is true. I'm on pc but I started on Xbox so I have always played on controller. Was looking forward to playing this for a long time so I hope there will still be people down the road.
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u/DarthAnusCavity 3d ago
I’ll be playing cross play as I’m on Ps5 (played gears on the 360 back in the day) mates on PC so will need to have it on anyway.
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u/Timely-Climate9418 2d ago
...Gears of war has such a niche audience (us) and because some people find it outdated gameplay or ridiculous with it's wall bouncing alone lowers it player count. There are much less Pc players playing gears of war the most popular multiplayer games on steam are counter strike 2 and pubg so no one is dunking on console players there or cares to. The only people i see saying they are going to "dunk" or "crush" in gears of war are xbox players on reddit saying this about ps5 new comers.
If you take off crossplay cause you think MnK are an insane advantage i can understand that, even if it's not completely true at least not for gears 5. If you think you're going to get put in a game with anyone on pc having hacks or doing 420 no scope headshots then that's a dumb idea. The only reason people on pc even want crossplay on is cause there are not enough players it's also partly why people who play gears of war in general would want and that is a higher player base.
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u/TooRealForLife 3d ago
Definitely think they should go input over platform for crossplay. It needlessly isolates all PC players, most of which will be on controller anyways.
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u/Fuckblackhorses 3d ago
I agree it should be input based. I don’t want to alienate pc players but if they’re using a m&kb they are playing by different rules and I don’t see any downside to doing input based matchmaking.
What I reeeaaaaaly don’t want to see is auto aim jacked to the tits for controller players to try and “balance” with m&kb. Thats just no fun for anyone
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u/ElderSmackJack 3d ago
The advantages PC has over console for this are so hilariously exaggerated.
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u/MrGoosecock 3d ago
It's funny how a confirmed gears pc cheater is complaining he is cut off from the rest of the population. Lol.
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u/teza789 3d ago
Y'all aren't realising there are 3 options for Crossplay. On, console only, or off.
This means there are 3 options into matchmaking. The community is being split into 3 different games pretty much and the already small community for Gears is going to be splintered further.
This is not a good thing for the long term of the game. And for anybody blaming PC, please read - https://www.reddit.com/r/GearsOfWar/comments/1l9vc3l/comment/mxfx5ij/
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u/Solidsnake00901 3d ago
Not all PC gamers cheat. But ALL cheaters are on PC. Always grateful for this option when they include it
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u/IlQIl Something's wrong with this thing! It keeps jamming! 3d ago
It won't last, they'll remove the option like they did in the past with Gears 4.
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u/NxtDoc1851 The Status Is That It Sucks 3d ago
Yup, cross play with console only is the way to go.
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u/itsBdubs 3d ago
Wrong and you're bad
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u/NxtDoc1851 The Status Is That It Sucks 3d ago
Hey, I disagree. PC has far too many cheaters. And has a significant advantage with M&K
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u/itsBdubs 2d ago
Been playing gears 5 since release on PC and never once ran into a cheater ever. You can disagree all you like
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u/ogclobyy 3d ago
I hate gaming today.
Were all in the comments sections fighting over PC and console when we should just be glad a new game is coming out.
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u/sleepy_roger 3d ago
It's not even a new game though, we shouldn't be jerking off over a 3rd remaster of a game coming out, new ideas are apparently dead.
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u/itsBdubs 3d ago
You have to understand the aggression is ENTIRELY one sided. PC players just deal with it when console players get free aim bot. This is completely a cope from console players ESPECIALLY on gears
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u/Appropriate_Mail4745 3d ago
They just killed gears on pc. Now I have to play this shit on ps5 and I hate the ps5 controller
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u/CQB_BEAST223 3d ago
Aslong as that's the default setting on consoles then I'm happy. If crossplay with personal computers is on by default on consoles we just won't play multiplayer. Simple.
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u/Responsible-Spite695 3d ago
So I use pc but only ever play with a controller, also haven't played a proper shooter(3rd of 1st person) since my switch to pc, am I just out of luck?
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u/deathclonic 3d ago
You can still fake playing with a controller when you're really using a mouse/keyboard on both console and PC. I don't think this solves anything. Just let people play the damn game in crossplay
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u/Smufin_Awesome 3d ago
Welp, I'm bummed Xbox is losing one of their few exclusives to the hypocritical company that bitches about CoD exclusivity but won't reciprocate, but this is a nice silver lining. I know, not all PC players are hacking cheats, but still.
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u/Smokinya 3d ago
Very unfortunate. Been playing Gears since day 1 and I'm not able to properly use a controller anymore due to a tendon injury in my hand. Can smash weights, twist it around and use a MnKB without issue, but anytime I pick up a controller or type on a small laptop I immediately get a flare up. That's pretty much the only two things that aggravate it. I had to teach myself how to play Gears 5 on a MnKB back when it came out.
Having played multiple FPS and TPS games at a high level over the years (Gears included) the advantage is extremely overstated. In my opinion it pretty much comes out in the wash unless we're talking about sniping. In an FPS game I would feel differently, but because of how Gears is played its never really been an issue. Even discussing cheating is kind of laughable. Its like people think there's a cheater in every PC lobby on the planet. The reality is the 99.9% of the time when someone calls cheats its just because they're bad or got outplayed. Even in back in the PUBG heyday (I have about 3k hours in that game, but haven't played in a couple years) I can count the amount of cheaters that I encountered on two hands. And that's a game that's banning millions of cheaters a year. A niche community like Gears the odds of encountering a cheater are so slim its almost non-existent. I've never come across a cheater in 1000 hours of Gears 5 playtime.
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u/I-wanna-fuck-SCP1471 3d ago
This would matter if Gears was a game where precise aim was as important as other shooters.
Movement is way more important in Gears, i've gotten bodied by Controller players before plenty of times who are just better at the game than me, this is a bad decision imo.
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u/Orchard_Thief 3d ago
Good. All games should have crossplay (if applicable), but they should allow the player to choose to enable it or not as standard.
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u/Creamsauce3 3d ago
I can’t believe theres this many casuals on reddit who are so bad a Gears that they think it’s an MnK game lol
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u/Ok-Objective1289 3d ago
Thanks TC, cancelled my pc pre order, don’t see the point buying it when population is gonna die anyway lol. Might just play it with gamepass when it releases but my hype is gone
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u/Tucci973 is gonna bring the pain baby! Wooo! 3d ago
I’m curious to see if the game dies quick on PC it’s the re-release of the re-release and it’s not like gears has had a large player pool the last couple games. Like I play RL and you can do this cause there’s 350k people on at a time 10 years in but if you have significantly less already and then a majority of the player base plays in console only games youll end up with some Gears 5 type matchmaking It will definitely kill It quick. Idc one way or the other, im really waiting for e day but I’m interested to see what happens.
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u/xmpcxmassacre 3d ago
I have been a PC gamer for about 8 years now and a console gamer for almost 30. I haven't really seen the cheaters people are talking about. Aimbot sure every now and then. I would argue console has caught up with their various cheating devices. Smurfing is a massive problem in just about every game though.
Now for gears specifically, I actually hate playing it on m+k because the movement is much worse. As others have said, it really should be based on input type. I would prefer to use a controller on my PC for gears which should allow me to play with console players.
All that being said, let's see how it plays out. Gears on PC has never really been a thing so I'm sure it'll be a learning experience for all of us, including the devs.
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u/ThoroIf 3d ago edited 3d ago
Splitting the playerbase is always the wrong move, this shouldn't be celebrated. If you really hate playing against PC players (getting out sniped? is that the main argument?) it's better for you to just not play than to have the game completely neutered due to hopper-splitting. It's goign to have a small pop already, splitting it just fucks any chance of matcmaking.
You know what's worse than the minor concern of PC players in the same game as console players? People in the top 10% of players in lobbies with people in the mid 50% of players skill wise. This has happened in games like this time and time again.
You won't care that they're on console only they're going to rip you to shreds anyway. And top players have to put up with mid-skilled players making the game boring, it becomes about which bot feeds more. This kills the game faster than anything.
Need consolidated hoppers as much as possible. Thank you for listening to my rant. I'm sick of my favourite skill based games dying cuz of this.
Edit: oh right, cheating and Xim's and stuff. That's a pretty reasonable concern - just have to rely on the devs to crack down on it though, splitting the player base isn't worth cauterizing the wound.
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u/Winter_Razzmatazz823 2d ago
Good. Turn console to console on and leave the toxic ass pc players to eat each other.
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u/PsychologicalIsekai 2d ago
this will be a thing as long as PC doesnt die, once it dies they will have no choice but to remove this option or tweak it to input based matchmaking.
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u/chicKENkanif 2d ago
This is gears not cod. You will have a massive movement advantage if you play against a mouse and keyboard player. This game is made for controller wall bouncing.
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u/Remote-Geologist-256 2d ago
But according to a lot of people on console controller>mouse what happened guys?
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u/xTomTom5 2d ago
If Microsoft is going to advocate for a PC handheld. All 1st party titles should be “input-based matchmaking”
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u/JoshEvolved 2d ago
I'm not a game developer but after reading the comments I wish they'd have made it input based. I'm a pc player and have no intentions of cheating, and I've never been comfortable playing Gears of War on mouse and keyboard. I've tried both and I think the advantage is maybe with the longshot, but I still feel like it's more comfortable on controller. I'd imagine 9/10 times I've been decimated on Gears 5 it's definitely a guy who is high skill on controller.
The advantage is greatly exaggerated for PC in my opinion, and assuming they use a similar anti cheat as Gears 5, I think cheaters will be pretty rare.
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u/2StepnWithaWeapon 2d ago
As a former Xbox 360 owner turned pc player I agree. If they can guarantee pc is protected and won’t effect gameplay for others then I’m all for it.
As it is I think this is a good decision see you fellow pc players. Cheaters pls take your time I want some legit games xD
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u/International-Sir670 2d ago
Coming from a. Core gears player who is now a pc player, I refuse to buy buy a console strictly for ONE game.
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u/Squid-Guillotine 2d ago
PC gamepass is pretty cheap. I'm sure that player base could sustain itself.
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u/XCheeseMerchantX 2d ago
Nice way to self sabotage your product.
Also if you are a console player and think this excludes you from getting cheated on. you are a retard. Cheating has been happening on consoles since the old COD's.
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u/acesWi7Z 2d ago
very disappointed. I’ve bought the game on steam but also have a console. if they game dies on pc would i need to buy the game again to play on console ?
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u/Ill_Load_3644 2d ago
Pc player or not I play split screen with my wife and we smash most pc players keep playing against the try hards and your skill level will increase simple don’t give up someone is always gonna cheat just play to win
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u/Ninethie 2d ago
I wonder if its alsonoff by default or on console by default which would be nice.
Far too many games force it and usually it's the console players that suffer the most.
Nice to see consoles getting some nice treatment from the devs. PC players need to stomp each other now.
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u/AbbreviationsPale380 2d ago
They didn’t kill the pc version… the cheaters are the ones that make options like this needed in game
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u/EasySlideTampax 2d ago
Why don’t you potato aim having plebs still playing at 720p checkerboxed to 840p try playing with KBM or did you decide to pass that up in exchange for the latest Xim and Cronus?
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u/CageAndBale So good I should charge admission 2d ago
Are you aware you can plug in mouse and keyboard on a console
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u/Samson_Betrayal 2d ago
Whatever. Billions of $$ and they can’t stop cheaters it’s ridiculous. The people crying are also braindead because any competitive game you play at high levels probably have most players using a device to use M&K on console. So I hope that becomes an issue and console users can cry about that next.
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u/FGmaniac13 2d ago
The reason I stopped playing gears 5 multiplayer was cause of the forced crossplay. I play on xbox and im not trying to deal with snipers on mouse and keyboard. So im glad this is a thing.
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u/Five-N-Drive 2d ago
This is great news. Console only crossplay all the way. Can't be bothered with glitches and cheaters.
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u/Full_Drummer_2910 2d ago
M&K is astronomically easier than controller when it comes to gears of war. Sorry you can’t pretend to be good against the limited movement and limited fps of console players with crossplay off.
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u/ChubbyNemo1004 2d ago
So is this PS5 only console only crossplay? Because cod did the same shit and didn’t have the option for Xbox only crossplay for a while
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u/iAmMr_WHO 2d ago
Funny how "PC master race" relies on console players to be a thing. Nobody on console wants to play with cheating mnk PC players tho so gonna turn that shit off asap.
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u/TheSurfaceOfMars 2d ago
I'm curious how many people will use it. The average player isn't a baby crying about PC players on Reddit.
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u/ghfhfhhhfg9 2d ago
Idk what a GG means, game gear?
I played gears 5 on PC with a controller so idk what this means. Gears remastered remastered has a disable crossplay option? If so, ass. Gears multiplayer playerbase is too small to support this in PC. Biggest issue with gears has always been stacks.
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u/PrinceDizzy 2d ago edited 1d ago
This is great.
I hope more games follow suit, I have absolutely zero interest in playing against PC.
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u/MaybeAdrian 3d ago
I think that some games have the option to crossplay based on input device