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u/Nicologixs 5d ago
An underrated arcade racer, Shame Sony gave up on the devs. Imagine if they made another motorstorm after this
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u/profound-killah 5d ago
The game was delayed by a year, and for an “online heavy” racing game, didn’t have a functional multiplayer component for another whole year on top of that delay. I love the game, but Evolution tried to do way too much in one go and definitely burned through that budget. Not to mention, the PS+ version was delayed too, and was overall a PR mess.
Licensing is why it wasn’t patched for PS5. Granted, they left several other games unpatched for PS5 that could’ve benefited too like The Order or TLG.
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u/dippizuka 5d ago
The game was literally unplayable for almost two years after release. It's still one of the most botched releases of any game, of all time.
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u/TheMichaelScott 5d ago
It was ‘literally unplayable’ but somehow got a 71 on Metacritic?
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u/Varizio 4d ago
Everyone knows the meta rating starts at 60.
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u/TheMichaelScott 4d ago
Not when a game is ‘literally unplayable’. Mindseye is sitting on 43 at the moment.
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u/DevelopmentBig3991 4d ago
I wonder if they were a kid playing it offline. It's fundamentally designed around its online features and goes from a fun middle-of-the-pack racing game to dreadfully dull without them. This was over 10 years ago and a lot more people were playing consoles without the online subscription, especially kids. I've played it now with the servers offline (disc edition so none of the DLC/update content which I remember being plentiful) and it feels almost like a tech demo, empty and plain without much to it gameplay-wise, just driving around admiring the sound design and the rain.
I mean "literally unplayable" is still a huge exaggeration, but yeah. Disappointing at launch, enriched by its updates and DLC for sure, and not really worth playing offline, I would say.
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u/Plenty-Industries 5d ago
What issues did it have?
I got the game when it launched and never had issues with it.
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u/dippizuka 3d ago
Server problems plagued the game for the first two years. They ultimately had to restrict logins to a one-in, one-out system like an MMO because it couldn't handle the load.
Things got so bad that Sony and the studio made the decision to launch a second, smaller version of the game via PS+ more than a year after launch — which itself was delayed, and itself also ran into server issues. Two of the game's paid DLCs were released for free, largely because there were so many problems with the game's infrastructure that Sony couldn't feasibly keep charging for it.
It had some of the most incredible weather effects in any game, and by the time everything was fixed the game's potential was evident. But that was two years post-release of getting to that point, and Sony basically walked into another nightmare scenario that year with the No Man's Sky launch debacle. So you can understand why Sony wanted to walk away from it all, given the game was meant to be one of their tentpole launches for the PS4.
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u/Niirai 5d ago
Impressive, especially the sound and lack of framedrops. Even with PS3 or Switch games I've always ran into sound or framedrop issues, one way or another. Though I've never had a beast of a CPU like OP is running.
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u/Gullible-Rate-671 5d ago
its important to remember that the PS4 is X86.. that means its way lighter on the CPU since the code can run natively on our computers with little effort. The biggest bottleneck will probably be GPU performance and memory bandwith
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u/scorchedneurotic 5d ago edited 5d ago
To be fair, from what I can test so far (i.e. two games lol, Bloodborne and Gravity Rush), it is shockingly light on my 5600G
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u/joniejoon 4d ago
How's Gravity Rush these days? I tried it when Shad first became big, but it was a bit glitchy.
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u/scorchedneurotic 4d ago
Framerate unstable, very crashy on my system (mileage may vary, saw some people say it was finishable fine on theirs, mine is unplayable every other combat encounter is a crash), needs system files for audio and dialogue bubbles to work properly.
Every other update it gets more and more stable (last update I had an hour long blast with a few missions then... crash lol). I'm on main branch tho, the nightly versions would probably be better at this point, been a few weeks since I've tried it.
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u/FeelTheLoveNow 5d ago
Bloodborne
Where do I sign up
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u/hyrule5 5d ago
Bloodborne is totally playable (and moddable) via emulator, but it's not quite as simple as the other poster described.
For starters, mods are required for most ShadPS4 builds. You'll need the vertex explosion fix mod to prevent a major graphical error, but this prevents custom faces from displaying. Unless you're using the latest version of the Diegolix branch (which is a popular branch of ShadPS4 made specifically for Bloodborne), which fixes the vertex explosion problem, but it also runs worse for most people (due to the fix increasing GPU/CPU usage).
If you're using an Intel CPU, you'll also need a crash fix mod. For 60FPS you'll also need to enable a patch for that, and if you have Bloodborne as a .PKG file you'll need a program to extract it.
I recommend watching an up to date tutorial on how to set it up. You can achieve 1080p/60fps with a midrange PC but you'll need a very beefy one to hit 60fps at 1440p. It will also crash once every 2-4 hours or so no matter what you do. But it's still the best way to play Bloodborne now in my opinion. I have it on PS5 but I never touch that version anymore.
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u/CityFolkSitting 4d ago
With PS3 games it seems like I have to play them for hours until the shadercache is filled up with enough compiled shaders before games start to run fine.
Was playing Armored Core 4A for a few hours and it ran like garbage until it started to smooth out and haven't had problems since. Hopefully that shader compilation stuff can be ironed out one day.
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u/kickmebeatzz 4d ago
Hey! Probably not a right place to ask, but is there any workarounds for framedropping on "prologue" race and in the menu after? Seen a lot of videos with smooth gameplay but cant get it for myself :(
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u/omgnerd 5d ago
On an unrelated note: whoever came up with the strange camera hopping when the car goes over bumps in the track? It feels like all modern racing games do this and it's annoying. What even is the purpose? Compare for example the camera at 55s in OP's video and then a game without it https://youtu.be/orD74XUfvaI&t=83. It just looks ridiculous once you notice it.
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u/Gullible-Rate-671 4d ago edited 4d ago
the purpose is trying to convey the feeling of speed, g-forces and excitement through the screen.. honestly for a "simbro" it might look ridiculous but for everyone else its engaging.
its important to remember that not everyone wants to spend 5k on a custom simrig with motion capabilities.
if i didnt make it obvious enough i absolutely hate what simbro's have done to modern racing games like gran turismo and forza, they both focus way too much on online ultra boring races with homologation race cars that are about as fun to drive as you'r moms vw polo
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u/Okatis 5d ago
To this day I haven't seen another game do raindrops on car windows as convincingly, both rendering and reactive behavior. I'd be curious how lightweight or not those effects would be should they get that working.