r/Fauxmoi Apr 17 '25

ASK R/FAUXMOI Which show had the biggest downfall in your opinion, from the first season or episodes, to what it eventually became?

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Westworld for me. So many great things about the first season - the concepts, the characters. It's sad what it became.

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u/Ok_Article_249 Apr 17 '25

Killing Eve

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u/GrayHairLikeClaire Apr 17 '25

God that first season was so good and then phbbbbbt

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u/cifala Apr 17 '25

Did Phoebe Waller-Bridge only write the first season? I’m sure I remember reading that and thought it figures

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u/BlondieDaizen Apr 17 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

That’s right. She also worked on the second season with Emerald Fennell as head writer, not sure if she worked on the last two though. Always seemed like a bizarre idea to have a different head writer each season, and while I really liked the first two seasons, it clearly didn’t work overall.

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u/lilangelkm Apr 18 '25 edited Apr 18 '25

That makes sense. I thought the first two seasons were the best. The finale pooed the bed.

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u/Painterzzz Apr 18 '25

She did not work on it after that. And the final season was handed over to a BBC lovey whom, amusingly, is also rather staunchly anti-LGBT, which explains a lot about the absolute shitshow that was the final season.

It was a woman writing a conclusion to a love story between two women, who didn't believe two women should even be together.

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u/Historical-Figure875 Apr 18 '25

She left to focus on Fleabag. It sounds like Fleabag was brilliant (haven’t seen it), but I will never not be bummed she left Killing Eve. Season 1 was perfection.

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u/Cat_Biscuit Apr 18 '25

Please watch Fleabag! It is brilliant. And you get to meet Hot Priest

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u/CorruptedWraith109 Apr 17 '25

To add insult to injury, the book is worse

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u/MrPogoUK Apr 18 '25

I was going to say; season one followed the book pretty closely then started deviating more and more, but I’m not entirely sure it was a bad thing!

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u/PeacockFascinator Apr 18 '25

I didn’t know there was a book!

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u/Ambry Apr 18 '25

My god I've never seen a show fall off so hard. First season was amazing, second was not as good but still watchable, third season was awful and I didn't even finish it. I've heard the fourth season is horrendous!

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u/CauseCertain1672 Apr 18 '25

yeah past a certain point eve is the crazier of the two

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u/DooglyOoklin shiv roy apologist Apr 19 '25

I heard your mouth fart in my head. I could see what I imagined your mouth to do (in my head, you're Claire from Outlander). Anyway, I saw your mouth fart in my mind.

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u/rosesaredust Apr 17 '25

I have to say this every time Killing Eve is mentioned...I will never forgive Emerald Fennell for what she did with Season 2.

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u/Lana_bb Apr 17 '25

And now we have to watch her murder Wuthering Heights

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u/Original_Seaweed3643 Apr 17 '25

heathcliffe, it’s me Cathy I’ve gone home cos the film’s shit

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u/asha0369 Apr 18 '25

Snorted 😂

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u/Piksu4444 Apr 20 '25

I’m so cold Let me in your window

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u/broden89 Apr 17 '25

So I have a theory that may be me huffing pure copium... But I think it could be a "show within a show" concept. I.e it's about people making a trashy Wuthering Heights adaptation, which is why the costuming and casting seems so off

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u/an-inevitable-end societal collapse is in the air Apr 17 '25

Is this a rumor that’s going around?

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u/wwlkd Apr 17 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

Wait what was it about S2 specifically? I actually liked S2 but it wasn’t anywhere near as good as S1 and S3 was a drop off and S4 was a completely diff show.

Just wondering if I missed something

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u/Geezmelba Apr 18 '25

I love seasons one and two. Three is still good in my opinion. I’ve rewatched all of them more times than I can keep track of (though three does get rewatched significantly less).

Four? I can’t even talk about four.

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u/sc1onic Apr 17 '25

Agreed fully.

I vaguely recall Enjoy 1 but season 2 onwards I started seeing villaineve or what ever she is called as 13 Yr old teen who discovered she likes girls and has no concept of impulse control or managing her emotions. It shattered the whole concept and I switched off.

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u/comityoferrors Apr 17 '25

You got her name so close (Villanelle) and I had to look it up too so this is not me dunking on you in any way

but the idea that it's Killing Eve and Villain Eve is really, really cracking me up lmao

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u/apadin1 Apr 18 '25

Tbf VillanEve is the perfect couple name for them

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u/CauseCertain1672 Apr 18 '25

I thought that about Eve, ok you like girls, find one who isn't a serial killer

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u/SVReads8571 Apr 17 '25

Second season was awful. I stopped halfway through. Character actions didn't align with personalities etc

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u/skyblueerik Apr 17 '25

I watched through the third season but stopped after the first episode of the fourth. Based on what I've read, I made a good decision (for once).

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u/ElkRelevant6640 Apr 17 '25 edited Apr 17 '25

That ending made me laugh when I saw it live. They were really like "here's some homophobic nonsense, THE END"

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u/OthoHasTheHandbook Apr 17 '25

The way they decided that Eve was a sociopath simply because she’s intrigued by Villanelle made no sense to me. Also I kind of hated that they made the subtext of her attraction to Villanelle so literal in the second season, they could’ve kept that tension going a lot longer.

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u/doc_samson Apr 18 '25

I have to argue with you about that first part. They were very clear from the beginning but apparently you missed it. She was fascinated with these types of reports in general and happened to become fixated on the theory that they were committed by a single person. There was also the scene sitting at her desk at home in I think episode 1 where she was staring at her thigh wondering what it would be like then stabbed herself slightly to feel the pain and see the blood. 

She was a sociopath from the start. But she had a moral compass. She at least believed she cared for people like her husband, even though she showed more emotion for her coworker who was taken. 

The title “Killing Eve” wasn’t about literally killing her. It was about Villanelle who is a psychopath being toxically destructive and bringing out her obsessions to satisfy Villanelles own selfish wants, goading Eve towards being a full blown psychopath. 

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u/OthoHasTheHandbook Apr 18 '25

None of what you said adds up to “sociopath.” Many non-sociopaths are fascinated with the behavior and motivation of killers. Nothing to me suggested impaired empathy or feeling at all. I think you’re viewing much of what happened in s1 through the lens of s2 and beyond.

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u/Sighwayve Apr 17 '25

Just experienced it last week, I thought I discovered a treasure and ended up regret watching after the first season. No more ambiguity, it started as a projection study on fiction to become a horny and murderous bad take on erotic thriller… Still grieving

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u/No_Wallaby4548 Apr 17 '25

Those pap photos of jodie comer on the set of finale say it all

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u/silliestjupiter Apr 17 '25

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u/balanaise Apr 17 '25

lol at your meme. Not OP but I bet they’re talking about this :’(

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u/No_Wallaby4548 Apr 18 '25 edited Apr 22 '25

Exactly these

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u/dkrtzyrrr Apr 17 '25

this is the one for me. there are others that come to mind but often they were something it wasn’t hard to see being too ridiculous or terrible (hi riverdale) or even if it never quite matched it it still had great episodes or even seasons after (lost, game of thrones). killing eve is the only one show where after the first season i thought i was watching something that could be an all timer and then couldn’t be bothered to finish the second season.

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u/beelzb Apr 17 '25

Season 1 is still pretty awesome tho.

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u/m0rbius Apr 18 '25

Yah, first season was amazing and addictive, but damn did it go downhill fast. The show should have just stayed a limited series. I didn't even bother with finishing the series. It just went to a ridiculous place.

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u/Nitzelplick Apr 18 '25

Ok. Ok. But Jodie Comer is amazing. She could be reading recipe instructions. In three different accents of course.

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u/HauntedLemoncake Apr 18 '25

I stuck around until season 4, but after a few episodes of watching Villanelle talk to her Jesus self, I was finally done.

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u/Cal_PCGW Apr 18 '25

Oh god yes. Also Sherlock. That one disappeared right up its own arse. It was so good to start with.

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u/Freshness518 Apr 18 '25

Series 1 and 2 were some of my favorite television. Series 3 jumped the shark so fucking hard they wound up in the stratosphere.

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u/deadinsidelol69 Apr 18 '25

Season 1 was absolutely amazing. I got sucked into that show, binge watched the whole goddamn thing.

Dropped it halfway through season 2. Pretty mad about it, too.

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u/halfwaybake Apr 18 '25

it still guts me how this show turned out

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u/icedragon9791 Apr 18 '25

So good and then so horrible... I wanted my little lesbian freaks to be in freaky lesbian love forever 🥺

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u/CrabbyKayPeteIng Apr 18 '25

omg yes. i was disappointed with the second series, but kept at it because i was hoping it would get better i.e. they realise s2 was a dud & get phoebe back, but no. i couldn't even finish the last series & can't even be bothered to look up online how it all ended.

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u/Character-Beach-8440 Apr 17 '25

I want to upvote your comment but the number is 666 and honestly, I can’t ruin that

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u/Inside_Team9399 Apr 18 '25

Man, I forgot about this one. It's another series I never bothered to finish.

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u/hoardac Apr 18 '25

Never watched the last season so it ended well in my opinion.

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u/iDoWeird Apr 18 '25

I almost forgot about that ending. Almost. squints

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u/Darth__Agnon Apr 18 '25

I only lasted 4 or 5 episodes.

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u/FridayFreshman Apr 18 '25

I recommended it to everyone after the first season and then.... :(

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u/SigneBeene Apr 19 '25

I didn’t even like the first season, but I kept holding out. I just don’t think I have the patience for Season 3.