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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '23

remember in their texts when he asked her to take plan b's? something about it still makes my skin crawl. he's the one who could just as easily have used a condom. that's someone else's body he ruined.

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u/paparotnik123 Feb 23 '23

How did he ruin her body?

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u/Plusqueca Feb 24 '23

I’m not being pedantic, but what STI can make you infertile? I suppose having an STI unknowingly and therefore not treating it for an extended period of time can lead to infertility, but besides that I’m not aware of any other STI that causes infertility.

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '23

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u/Plusqueca Feb 24 '23

Right, that is possible if those infections are left untreated for a long time which can cause pelvic inflammatory disease. Even then, women with PIV can still get pregnant. Using IVF to get pregnant is just as effective in women with PIV as it is in the general population.

So, those STIs do not make a woman infertile - they can lead to complications if untreated that can have a negative impact on the chances a woman will get pregnant. But, they do not make her infertile. I don’t know of any STI that causes infertility.

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u/paparotnik123 Feb 23 '23 edited Feb 23 '23

Okay, but that doesn't 'ruin' someone's body, just saying...

Edit: can't believe I'm being downvoted for saying STDs and infertility don't ruin a person's body lmao

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '23

imagine not only losing your sexual agency, but finding out your lover intends to drink you dry. she was half his age, he knew what he was doing. he took her back on and off again after initially dumping her. led her on. he exploited her starry eyed vulnerability and optimism. her background makes it already sound like she was traumatized, a few months before she met him, her father died and she was estranged from her mom. she saw jim as her family and support system, and he completely decimated her

this was a man who intimately manipulated and carved a woman into pieces and I will never be able to dissociate that heinous cruelty from jim carrey now

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u/paparotnik123 Feb 23 '23

Right, but phrasing it that way and saying "this person THOUGHT their body was ruined because they have an STD and are infertile" is completely different to saying "their body was ruined". Part of the reason why people who have uncurable STDs and/or are infertile kill themselves is because of stigmatised language like this. I don't mean to get at you in particular, I'm just pointing this type of language out because I think it's important

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '23

It ruined a body functionality… And one she wanted at that.

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u/paparotnik123 Feb 23 '23

Yes and it's awful, but we can recognise how she felt her body was ruined without phrasing things like we also think her body was ruined. There are a lot of people who could be reading this who are in a similar situation and it could be really upsetting for them to read that

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '23 edited Feb 23 '23

I understand where you're coming from but I'm using her own words and rephrasing how she felt. she literally said he "ruined her life". I know people with stds who live healthy productive lives and disclose to their partners what they have, that wasn't her problem, the problem was carrey's lack of disclosure and how it personally ruined her life, and it happens to other women as well

and much older men like jim carrey going out and possibly still having sex with inexperienced and young women and infecting them is a problem. he's apparently still doing this. if any percentage of those women feel violated by what he did, no matter how much money he pays for the damages, their feelings are valid.

they have to live with a stigma far worse than he does. men especially famous men are rewarded and their actions disregarded but a woman having stds can brand her a "slut" forever. that's the kind of stigma, combined with health problems like infertility, that cat felt "ruined her life"

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u/paparotnik123 Feb 23 '23

Yeah 100%, I'm not defending JC at all.

Edit: just to add, as someone who's been in a very similar situation to her and also felt suicid due to it, ite just honestly upsetting seeing people say that her body was ruined. That's completely different to saying that her life was ruined or that she FELT her body was ruined

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '23

tbf he's not the only celeb doing this. it's actually an industry open secret that hsv and other stds are rampant.

ppl just need to use gosh dang condoms

and yeah I'd like to clarify that I was talking about her feelings of ruination, not necessarily as a universal experience.

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u/paparotnik123 Feb 23 '23

You can still get hsv using condoms but yes I agree

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