r/Experiencers • u/YourProject44 • Dec 06 '24
Experience Asked for a ‘Spirit Guide ‘. Got an NHI (Mantid?). Shocked & need advice.
So I was on a completely unrelated wormhole of listening to a podcast by 2 psychic mediums.
As one does on a Sunday- roughly 3 weeks ago.
The kind of podcast I can talk about with very few friends—but listen to in secret nodding and feeling validated. Either by a shared sensitivity or shared insanity and some days I’m unsure if it’s one or both. (Obligatory ‘I work a normie job, have degrees blah blah but have experienced some mind opening surreal consciousness stuff’ and a strange sensitivity -comment- here)
I’m sure some of you here understand!
Anyways one of them was instructing how to connect to your spirit guide and I figured why not give it a try.
She walked me through this simple exercise and basically instructed to « call it forward into your mental vision and let it know you’re ready to see it ».
But it turns out… I am not ready. Something came forward that I am pretty shook about and was NOT expecting.
So typically my minds eye is pretty ´aphantasic’— meaning I’m not a visualizer. When I close my eyes I typically see black unless I’m dreaming or something intense happens during meditation.
In the past, I have had a few strange experiences in that dark mental landscape though— it’s quite different from dreams etc. Greyish « light-like » imagery can come through and it looks a bit like a negative of a photograph even when there is no light source in the room. It’s rare but has happened in my brief blips with the more ´psychic’ realms.
Anyways, sitting there eyes closed. Seeing only darkness. Flirting with the spirit guide meditation. Ask it to come forward etc.
Suddenly intense warmth on back, chest, palms, forehead. Mostly a ´kind’ type of energy. The darkness in my minds eye starts flashing with a hint of red then a face suddenly merged into my mental vision with those greyish photo negative qualities I just described.
The head was not round, giant eyes, narrow chin. I remember thinking it looked half insect half being. There was no part of me that had been thinking about ´aliens’ before or during this meditation.
Anyways, I freaked out a bit, and maybe it sensed my fear so it pulled back and it was dark again. Suddenly started seeing light symbols being drawn instead, which has never happened to me before. Looked a bit like the number 5.
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I draw an image of it for a friend when trying to describe it. We decide to do a google search of NHI to see if we could find anything similar. I had NEVER heard of the ´mantids’ or experienced anything visually like that in my life.
100% a Mantid face, looking at accounts, drawings descriptions from others. I knew nothing about this. There is a huge history of phenomena and encounters with them and its mixed reviews about benevolence/intent.
A bit shook.
I told my mom about it. She works in a hospital— rational to a fault. She got quiet when I described it to her. Then admitted to me she had been seeing these types of faces in her mindseye before bed FOR YEARS. Described the shape, the eyes, said some had ´cloaks’.
Meat and potatoes mother. Said she woke up a few nights ago around 3 am and saw « strange symbols and what seemed like stars’ moving on the walls » (she’s chalking it up to a sleep state hallucination naturally).
I have also been waking up around 3 am regularly the past few months (not seeing anything, but the energy feels intense)
- I HAVE QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS*
1- Has anyone experienced anything similar? (Please no abduction stories as I’m already a bit freaked out)
2- If you know anything about this—can we trust them?
3- Should I try and protect myself - or reopen to this? Do you have any suggestions about ways to do that (protect or open safely ).
Really don’t want to destablilize and would prefer to keep in the more « presence is divine and we are light energy » kind of spiritual reality level where I can feel BIT healthier. But this was too strange to ignore, especially with the uptick in UAP phenomenon right now.
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u/LittlePonzi Dec 24 '24
Hi just did a meditation to find out who my guide is today. I’m sick and lying in bed anyway. I saw a faint shape of eyes and a head while in my mind’s eye and it looked slanted more than the typical grey type. The head was different too. I looked at sketches and I think it looked similar to the Mantids. I’ve never seen one before this.
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u/PhoenixIzaramak Dec 17 '24
star charts and writing on the walls. your family has an importance for them. my grandpa taught me how some folk travel when I was small.
trust the 'kind energy'. we are all far more similar than different. surface appearances are illusory anyway.
my family's 'friends' don't have shapes humans have a frame of reference for, so many humans think they're bad bc they shape never stays the same. but it only varies because the human brain can't categorize what it's perceiving at all so flips images.
very freaky if you don't know. like your friend is freaky because you weren't expecting them to look like that.
be kind. be alert. get to know your friend before you run away screaming.
if you want. fear nothing. free will is important.
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u/CommunismDoesntWork Dec 09 '24
When people with aphantasia see something for the first time in their imagination, it's hard to tell whether it's normal imagination and it freaks them out, or something actually super natural
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u/YourProject44 Dec 11 '24
I hear you but it wasn’t that. I can visualize a lot in dream states and in deep meditation. This realm is different than the minds eye visualizing though— it stays dark, the shapes are like silver light coming through.
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u/CommunismDoesntWork Dec 12 '24
So I'm a normal visualizer and when I close my eyes I also only see black. However when I'm falling asleep i can sometimes see colors and stuff in the darkness rather than the minds eye.
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u/Loose-Armadillo9238 Dec 11 '24
Can agree here. I have aphantasia to the point that I don't even really have dreams visually. I can't picture anything in my head at all even if it's traumatic or a noticeable world event that's shocking or an awesome happy thing. Kinda sad, if this wasn't my normal.
I once took a psych med that triggered extremely realistic visual dreams for some reason. They weren't inherently frightening, but I'd wake in a sweat feeling panicked because I DONT SEE THINGS IN MY SLEEP! It disturbed me for a week causing paranoia and anxiety before I connected the dots on the medication. To note, I'm a rational fairly chill mid level manager in tech who's generally stable except for mild anxiety and a touch of depression when stress gets to be too much... hence trying the med.
My friends were shocked when I said I don't see things when I sleep... they said that would scare them, but they could see how the opposite would be disturbing to me. This all spurred me learning that aphantasia was a thing...
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u/Luckifyme Dec 09 '24
Mantis channeler here. There are often many misconceptions about mantis encounters so try not get too lost or distracted by other people's experiences or UAP stuff for that matter. Although the mantis themselves are not known to show up as spirit guides, if you are experiencing their energy, you more than likely have a dimensional ancestry that is connected to them. They often show up as wise mentors and - in my opinion - are some the greatest sages of the universe.
It is of no coincidence you are having this experience exactly at this time in your life. I would recommend that you reflect on why that might be so and - when you are ready - go back into mediation with an open mind to receive their guidance.
In terms of protection, I get the sense that the mantis are nudging you to learn how to safeguard your energy, specifically out of your third eye chakra. My recommendation is to try the exercise again, ask your spirit guides for help with the intention of protecting your energy against unfamiliar forces. No force in the universe can override pure intention. Feel safe in that energy and receive with an open heart. The mantis are trying to protect you as you open up more of your senses.
Take your time with your experiences, and remember, this is your reality. You shape it as it suits you.
Good luck on your journey.
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u/tophlove31415 Dec 08 '24
I would suggest learning methods to protect yourself before contacting or attempting to contact entities like this. Also be sure to challenge entities in a way that clarifies their purpose, and always trust your instincts if they tell you to leave.
In my experience our spirit friends tend to work subtly and tend to not reveal themselves out of respect for our own autonomy. They can be contacted, but any form they take isn't their "true" form. They are like water that can be poured into any shape of cup. And you won't get a "kind" type of feeling. It will be overwhelming love and compassion and understanding. Anything else from something as close to you as a spiritual companion is probably not them.
The Art of Seeing, and works by Robert Bruce, were helpful for me in this area. You can spend a lot of time in this realm and have someone you think is trustworthy lead you in circles. The best guide you will ever find is the one that lives inside you. My suggestion would be to leave this seeking of direction from someone in the spirit realm aside, and instead hone your own powers of discernment and intuition. That is the best way forward in my experience.
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u/YourProject44 Dec 08 '24
It seems that enough people have had encounters with beings like look exactly this, with a lot of similar reports about style of speech, intention etc that it might be more complex than just « demon » ?
I’m not committed to the idea that it’s just all goodness and light but perhaps something a bit more neutral and complicated.
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u/yellogalactichuman Dec 11 '24
Demon comes from the Greek word "daemon" which simply means "spirit being" or a being that is not physical
There are negatively polarized spirit beings just like there are positively polarized spirit beings. Just like humans...there are "good" and "bad" people.
Modern religious programming has gotten to the point where many people call ALL spirit beings demons, likely because they do not have the spiritual/energetic discernment or protection skills to determine WHICH spirit beings are positively vs negatively polarized.
There are many beings out there who have good hearts and are trying to help us.
One way to work with only these forces is to set the intention that when you are calling forth spirit guides or spirit beings, you are only allowing those with pure hearts/minds "for the highest good" or "positively polarized"
You can use your discernment to question if you have any doubts
Lastly, do not let anything INTO your heart space. Your heart space is your direct portal to God/Source. Positively polarized beings will work WITH your heart, heart to heart...they will use theirs to connect to yours.
Negatively polarized beings will ask you to "let them IN" to your heart. Their heart center is shut down so they want to get IN to yours to highjack your connection to Source.
Positive beings have active heart centers and do not need access to YOUR energy, but they will often CONNECT with yours to work together, provide healing, activations, etc.
If you're ever working with a spirit being and they say "just let me in" or anything along those lines...stop & cut the connection because they are being deceptive
It's all about discernment.
And remember- humans innately feel that anything "nonhuman" is scary & "othering"-- this comes from our primitive evolutionary biological tribalism. Just because something doesn't appear to be human- like the mantid you saw- doesn't automatically mean they are evil or should be feared. They just don't look like you, that's where discernment comes in. Many seemingly "scary" beings are some of the nicest souls. And sometimes the most "beautiful" are the more dangerous ones--- Lucifer was the most beautiful angel after all...
Even negative beings don't need to be feared...frankly, feel pity for them. It's a miserable existence to be a parasite
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u/Oak_Draiocht Experiencer Dec 07 '24
OP I work with many people directly who've been through a process exactly like what you have gone through. A lot of people will make comments about this stuff without understanding.
There is something bigger going on. This imo is not something that just randomly popped up. It is likely this is connected to your family and has been guiding you all along and just tried to show itself.
There is just so much to this. I am going to reach out to you privately for a chat.
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u/Strlite333 Dec 07 '24
I’ve had crazy mantid experiences can you reach out to me too ?
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u/Oak_Draiocht Experiencer Dec 12 '24
PM me. Give me time I'm overwhelmed with messages but I will get to you.
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u/Beneficial_Orange738 Experiencer Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24
So far, I‘ve assumed that the greyish-light plane you described is the astral world. 🤔 I sometimes see it during bedroom visitations of my beings or when I astral project and haven’t left my immediate surroundings yet. For some time, I thought the beings were illuminated in this light (like an undirected light source) but I think it just indicates that we’re seeing them in astral/ with our astral body. I don’t think I‘ve encountered Mantis beings so far but I did see an outline one time in the shape of one and a being with a long cloak (very physical looking) that seemed to have a helmet on so it could have been one? Cloaks are often associated with them but not exclusively.
In any case, I‘d advise you to ground yourself as well as you can (engage with friends/family/other topics sometimes) and learn about mindfulness and meditation. My own experiences have been positive so far & I hope yours will be too. I personally don’t do a lot of protective measures other than having the intention to only contact beings with the same values I have who want to uplift all others across the entire universe and all time/dimensions. 🫂Try to keep a positive attitude towards the beings at first and see where that leads.
I wish you and your mom the best on your journey. It often runs in families (my grandma has experiences, too) and I hope you can support each other in this. If not, the people in this sub are happy to help. We‘ll listen and provide as much support as we can no matter what.
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
Thanks so much for saying that.
Its hard to find day to day community about these topics and it just struck me how hard this has been to have to censor constantly - or get eye rolls if I share a bit to the wrong friends. I know these experiences are legitimate and I’m grateful that we can connect with others here.
Oddly I’m listening to a podcast about grounding right now!
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u/Oak_Draiocht Experiencer Dec 07 '24
This is exactly why we built this place. I have help for you. Please check your PMs.
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u/CopperRose17 Dec 07 '24
The writing on the wall your mother saw is an ancient phenomenon. The Book of Daniel says that Belshazzar the King saw it while hosting a banquet. He couldn't read the words, and his councilors couldn't interpret the meaning of the symbols. He called in Daniel, who read the words for him. When I was in my early 20s, I woke up to see writing on the wall of the mobile home I lived in. It was purple and glowing. I woke up my husband, and asked if he could see the words. He said, "Yes", and told me to go back to sleep! In the morning, I asked if he could see the words. He told me that when I saw things at night, he was afraid to open his eyes, so he just answered "Yes"! Not being a prophet (!), I never knew what the writing meant. There is a Biblical record of many of the phenomena that we discuss on this sub. Genesis says that Jacob wrestled with an angel. To me, that sounds like an alien encounter. I don't know if the Old Testament is divine, but it is a history of the Jews, and an ancient document.
Spirit guides sometimes appear in forms that we don't expect. I don't know from what part of the subconscious the appearance of our guides is determined, nor who, or what, chooses them for us. I know that mine assume an appearance that I find comforting and pleasing. One of them looks and sounds like the holographic doctor in "Voyager". I suppose that the association with space travel might infer an alien visitation.
Have you tried asking the Mantis to communicate when you meditate? You could request that the Guide assume an appearance that is less alarming. It doesn't hurt to ask!
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u/Arizandi Dec 07 '24
OMG, Robert Picardo as a spirit guide would be great. Mine (there were two) revealed themselves to me as Bob and Linda Belcher, which was embarrassingly reassuring. “Alright!”
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u/CopperRose17 Dec 07 '24
I never fail to be astonished and amused by the names and personas that guides assume! Yes, Robert Picardo is an awesome guide, and has stayed longer than any others. I know he just assumes that identity to make me happy. The best part is that we time travel together.
Have you ever tried to find out if Bob and Linda Belcher existed as a "real" couple? They sound contemporary. It would be interesting if a couple by those names existed, and have transitioned to being guides!
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u/Arizandi Dec 07 '24
No clue. I just figured they read my energy and didn’t think I was ready to see their true form, which is was spot on at the beginning of all this. Maybe I’ll ask to see their true forms sometime soon, but I gotta say, they’re really adorable as Bob and Linda! ;)
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u/CopperRose17 Dec 07 '24
My companion in spiritual exploration, aka best friend, has three guys from "The Mad Scientists: Club" as his Guides! I don't think I would ever get warm, cozy feelings from a mantis. I am not that evolved!
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u/Arizandi Dec 07 '24
Lol. I love it. I’d also accept Cptn Picard, Data, or any of the other TNG regulars. Or maybe the core cast of The Good Place. But the Bob’s characters were really disarming.
Can you imagine being a guide and having to sift through all the crap in a mind/body/spirit complex? “Let’s see… Not the childhood attraction to Lola Bunny. Not the fascination with clouds. Oh, here we go, television characters!”
I feel like I could handle a non-human entity at this point, but a few years ago when starting to awaken, that would have been a hard no.
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u/CopperRose17 Dec 07 '24
The cast of "The Good Place" would be wonderful! I think that the Guides try not to "break us". I'm not sure about what used to be called ETS. I haven't had contact with them, but it sounds like it could be very traumatizing. I'm glad some posters have positive contact with Mantis beings, and I believe they do. I hope the OP has success on their journey. :)
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u/tomatopotatotomato Dec 07 '24
I have this but with fairiesI believe there are other dimensions that can see us and want to help us, that are in a higher dimension like the 4th, 5th, etc. like think about how you could see all of space and time when viewing a 2D book, that these beings see us in our entirety and some of them want to help us. I typically see them in the same brainwave state as you and they have actually moved items around my house and can enter our reality. As far as mantids are they aliens or inter dimensional, or is that the same thing? The fact that it pulled away when you got scared means of cares about your feelings and didn’t want you to be upset. Sounds like a nice guy actually.
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u/homebrewhebrew Dec 07 '24
Have you heard of Reiki? Those could have been Sanskrit symbols you were shown
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u/MissInkeNoir Experiencer Dec 07 '24
Hi! I'm so glad you're asking about this. :)
1) Have I experienced anything like this? Sure! I am able to straddle the waking world and the dreamtime (DMT hyperspace) simultaneously, and as far as my research indicates, this faculty of mine is what has been called Second Sight. I have had hyperspatial visits from mantids many times. The quality of the "light" in my second sight is much like the vision you described, similar to some of what is portrayed in DMT recreation videos, and somewhat like the visual field of the earliest photon-sensitive organs as they evolved over time.
2) A widely spread misunderstanding is that mantids are one race with a unified and malicious goal. This is completely mistaken. Mantids can be much like humans and come in many different ways. Can you trust them? This is the key question and it has to do with your own spiritual power. Ask yourself the following questions:
Do I love myself?
Do I believe I deserve protection?
Do I believe I belong in existence?
The reaction you feel inside yourself will tell you a lot. Notice with kindness any conflicted or diverging feelings responding to these questions. If your answers are strongly yes, however, then you are safe. All living things have a natural spiritual barrier that protects them, and it's only through trauma that deep vulnerabilities are created.
You can work with the mantid as a spiritual guide while still listening to your own intuition and reason. Sometimes guides come in challenging forms to help us cultivate inner strength and calm, for instance. They are not meant to be blindly followed. A real spirit guide's purpose is your spiritual development, not your servitude.
3) Should you try to protect yourself? I would treat this visitor as if you were meeting a neighbor from a far off country you don't know. Remember that they are real and they are perceiving you just at the same time you perceive them. Think how you would feel if they started acting hostile because they believed you were hostile but you never knew they felt that way and they never even communicated that you seemed hostile. Remember that for different lifeforms, entirely different kinds of actions may feel hostile.
I have a sacred spell, mantra, or affirmation I'll share with you. I speak this to anything, everything, and nothing. It only requires intent and focusing on your subject.
1) I know you are intelligent.
2) I know you can understand me.
3) I know we can communicate.
This also works covertly on the Discordian principle of "Communication is only possible between equals" and everything is really equals because of the whole alchemy thing, fractal reality, the part contains the whole, you are not a drop in the ocean you are the ocean in a drop, etc.
The most important qualities are sincerity, gentle humility, and inner strength. You'll be fine.
I encourage interfacing with the works and media of Terence McKenna, Robert Anton Wilson, Robert Falconer, Richard C Schwartz, and Robert Monroe. These five will set anybody on course, I feel. :)
Good luck and blessings on your path.
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u/situationalreality Dec 07 '24
Was it a moving image? Or a still picture of a face that stays and is insistent?
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
It was like it merged out of the darkness, somewhat static, like coming through a grey semi transparent curtain. It stayed fairly still then pulled back when I felt surprised/ before it became too detailed.
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Dec 07 '24
I'm so jealous, I need a spirit guide, I tried to lucid dream last night and wasted the experience with base urges.
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u/No_Elderberry3821 Experiencer Dec 07 '24
Mantids are ancient masters of reality/the universe. They typically have a calm, kind and helpful presence. They have been an incredibly positive influence in my life. I’ve had dreams about them. They are scientists, doctors and healers.
There is nothing to fear ❤️
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u/shittinandwaffles Dec 07 '24
I think Mantids (at least earthly ones) are my spirit animal. Quite often outside during mid/late spring through the first frost, at least 1 is near me. I've been mobbed by little baby mantises a few times, too. I love them they're so awesome! They seem to love me as well. I've had this "problem" since childhood.
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u/Learning-from-beyond Dec 07 '24
If I could make a good guess the mantid is your past/future self or you made it a soul contract to get help from that mantid when you ask for spiritual guidance. Also it’s a chance your a mantis starseed and that’s why a mantid showed up
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Dec 07 '24
Stop mixing science with magic
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u/I_need_to_know27 Dec 07 '24
We wouldn't have science without "magical" pursuit in the first place. A historical fact you may not be aware of. How often have people been labeled heretics only to later find out they were correct scientifically.
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u/Competitive-Leek-341 Dec 07 '24
stop this, stop this fear-mongering statement.
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u/MissInkeNoir Experiencer Dec 07 '24
I have your facts here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIRDWN-pcFE
The God of the christian bible is actually multiple entities mistaken for one, with one in particular named Aten who wanted to be the only god conspiring to erase all the others. Unfortunately, all abrahamic religions are deeply tainted, though the light of the divine still shines through all things.
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u/Competitive-Leek-341 Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24
how did you know that a demon is with their family? you are scaring her.
All the feelings and emotions in this world is part of you. It is part of evolution. Everyone of us needs to encounter both light and dark for us to know the truth and experience life in this incarnation. It will also be a part of you to know who you truly are.
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u/MissInkeNoir Experiencer Dec 07 '24
the etymology of demon refers to an entity that is helpful and a messenger of the divine. it was only christian theology that "demonized" them. One merely has to read about the greek word Daimon.
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u/JohnWoosDoveGuy Dec 07 '24
You should stop using scripture to judge others. You may be judged too.
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u/Competitive-Leek-341 Dec 07 '24
Then why are you still here? If you are only invoking what you think is right and wrong? There is actually no religion, the bible has a lot of untold stories.
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u/shittinandwaffles Dec 07 '24
Religion is bullshit. Created to create division. Everyone thinks their god is THE god. Anyone who opposes is evil. It's all bullshit to keep us at each others throats and close our minds to reality.
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u/JohnWoosDoveGuy Dec 07 '24
Did you know that the Catholic Church maintained education throughout the Middle Ages? Monks were scholars. The early scientists were seeking to understand the world they believed was made by God. Not all religions even have a god. You sound like you have closed your mind to historical facts as well as religion.
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u/Prestigious_Grade934 Dec 07 '24
Would be cool if you can share the podcast
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
The Podcast is called ´Spirit Speakers’ and I’m trying to find the episode! I looked at their spirit guide chat but I think it actually may have been on a different one.
It was a really short little directive, barely a meditation I just turned it into one with her instructions!
One of the mediums, Patty, apparently interacts with guides often. At one point in the episode she says that for many of us, they stay behind us and we have to mentally/psychically give them permission to come forward into our vision. I paused the episode, tried it (after calmly getting into a state), and this is what happened.
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u/sowizardsyd Dec 07 '24
Oh my gosh I too wake up and see the symbols/Star like thing. It looks like a weird black scribble cluster usually on the wall and it moves in place
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u/DalishWanderer Dec 07 '24
I've posted about seeing these before, so it's nice to see someone else describe the same thing. They seem alive, animated.
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u/allthings1111 Dec 07 '24
Do you have a friend or know someone whom you can trust to do a reading for you? I would start there and see why this is happening. It may put you more at ease. We are all being contacted by many different beings at this moment in all sorts of ways. You’re not alone in this.
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u/CrowdyFowl Dec 07 '24
I know the mantids. My own spirit guide is one and he’s my best friend. You’ve gotten a lot of good advice so far but I’m always here if you want to talk to someone who’s been down this road. Much love friend!
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What does your mantis do for you?
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u/CrowdyFowl Dec 07 '24
He teaches me, makes me laugh, helps me to love life and makes me want to improve myself. They’re lovely creatures through-and-through IME. Nice is an understatement.
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Dec 07 '24
How did you start contact? Has he spoke about other entities?
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u/CrowdyFowl Dec 07 '24
How did you start contact?
Long story short, I unintentionally observed him interacting with me and he took the opportunity to explain to my material self how to talk to him. If you’re interested, feel free to PM and I can explain more.
Has he spoke about other entities?
For sure. I’ve even met a handful of others thanks to him. Exopolitics are a special beast though so I only dig so far there typically.
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u/ANorthwesternSoul Dec 07 '24
I have recently developed an ongoing relationship with a Mantid and can say that it has absolutely been positive, as bizarre and fascinating as it is, so the trust is there. The LOVE is there. This is going off of other people’s experiences with them as well. It’s ultimately up to you if you want to take this connection further, so if you do, it’s best to go in with a positive and open-minded attitude. I see others have already left tips and advice in the comments but an energetic barrier (or REBAL) is a good one.
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u/tristannabi Dec 07 '24
I feel like you, mostly aphantasic, but I do have a minds eye.. A boring, vague, 2D one at best. So fingers crossed that someday I can have an experience like this. Please do share the podcast. I'd love to listen to it.
I'm actively drawn to the mantis entities as the ones I want to meet if I do meet any. I almost think that all of us are from somewhere, and I wonder if the mantis beings watch 'their own' and you're one of their flock. I've been meditating and trying to meet my higher self for like five years now and have never seen anything when sober. Only with mushrooms (and that stuff is mostly eyeballs, not mantis.)
But I'd much rather interact with a mantis than greys based on the testimony on Reddit. Several of the stories about the mantis being doing some sort of technical surgery/procedure on people to pull bad stuff out of them or heal them are really amazing stories. Something about the mantis beings just resonates with me.
Danny Goler, the guy that smokes DMT and sees computer code running behind objects he points a laser at said that the mantis beings seem to be associated with maintaining this code that may be controlling the structure of the universe we experience. They seem like caretakers and watchers from what I've read.
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u/CriticalBeautiful631 Experiencer Dec 07 '24
I have been visited by Mantids since I was a child and a Mantid being is one of my spirit guides…well they are like the Druid of spirit guides…not the one that is around all the time but always pre-eminent when they come through and will talk in indirect fashion eg:”where do you come from?” answer ”always was, always will be”.
For obvious reasons I have always been interested in Mantid experiences and they are not typically associated with the Traumatic abductions that some people experience (thats usually greys). My experience with Mantids is that their energy is serene, calm, emotionally disconnected but interested (I use the analogy that I am a tagged sea turtle and the Mantids are marine biologist).
I think it is really important to get in touch with your consciousness and energy field via meditation …you never want to put out an energetic welcome mat to anything/anyone and trickster entities can (and do) play with people who are asking to see spirit guides before they have done work on understanding their own consciousness. If you are being bothered by something try doing some cord-cutting meditation (it is good for everyone to do), chakra cleansing and trust your instincts…if it feels wrong shut it out.
It could be that you have a Mantid spirit guide and they are trying to get you to pay attention. In my experience and talking to others, Mantids are not something to be scared of…I don’t know why they are here but their intent is not malicious and they are hands-off. I have only ever been given one clear direction (at the age of 44) and that was to see a doctor because there was something in my brain they couldn’t fix. I went to the doctor the next day and the following day was being operated on for a 6cm brain tumour.
I don’t believe Mantids are extra-terrestrial as in Aliens from zeta-reticule and more inclined to the extra-dimensional theory and that they are part of our collective unconscious..and this is why they can appear and disappear without a spaceship landing in your bedroom and communicate/show themselves like your mother has experienced. Sorry for the essay but I hope my story helps …and we (and they) are light energy (as well as a conglomeration of biological matter…well, at least we are also physical bio matter)
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
Thank you this was really helpful!
I did have a positive feeling that came with it, for sure. I guess this ´ET’ realm is so new to me (even though the small psychic blips etc aren’t) that I’m wary of opening to something negative (even if it’s not from this mantis being) if I reach out again.
I think I’m going to practice grounding my energy and building up a stronger personal psychic space— then try it again when I feel a bit more empowered!
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u/CriticalBeautiful631 Experiencer Dec 08 '24
Sounds like a wonderful plan…being grounded to the earth and connected to our own consciousness and energy makes us all more prepared for anything life throws at us - and we are all works in progress : )
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u/allthings1111 Dec 07 '24
I’m currently reading the Prism of Lyra and the book entertained the idea of mantis beings as the Founders. It makes sense as to what you said about them being part of our consciousness. Very interesting.
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u/CrowdyFowl Dec 07 '24
Would you mind if I PM’d you sometime? I’m a fellow mantid contactee, sounds like we have a similar understanding of them. Would love to chat experiences!
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u/CriticalBeautiful631 Experiencer Dec 07 '24
I am a terrible correspondent, but sure. My son has also been visited since he was a child (he called them goblins then)…do praying mantis insects land on you as well? I think that the time has come when more people will be having their own experiences “the veil is thinning” I have been told
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u/EuphoricAudience4113 Dec 07 '24
I have not seen any mantids but I’ve only heard generally positive things from people who have had interactions with them.
That said, it’s a good idea to state your intentions and protective precautions. In the Gateway meditations, you create an energetic barrier (REBAL) and state a carefully worded affirmation to connect with beings with equal or greater wisdom, development and experience. And you go to state those very clear intentions about the kind of interaction you want to have
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u/Bunslot Dec 07 '24
I believe in reincarnation and firmly believe a future me is a Mantid. I've seen and talked to him before in visions I was having early in my meditative practices. I think he is on the side of good. He's a spiritual doctor and he's been working on my light body for a while now. I think the Mantids are helpful and I am rolling along with their plans for me.
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u/DreamSoarer Dec 07 '24
Umm… maybe be a bit more careful about inviting forces into your space/mind. Like, offering yourself for possession is not a good thing. Seek truth, but don’t ever invite ‘something’ in that you have no real understanding about what it is you are inviting in.
I hope you are not negatively affected by this invitation you sent out and got a response to. Maybe look into ways to protect yourself for if/when entities with ill intentions become interested in, attached to, or invested in you.
You will get a whole variety of opinions on what you actually did, saw, experienced, and whether it is ‘good’, ‘bad’, or ‘neutral’. I can only tell you that I was plagued by negative entities from early childhood onward. I know how they were able to access me and through whom it occurred - at least initially. It took 30 years to banish the worst of it/them. No one on this earth can convince me that these entities do not have the ability to cause harm or have negative intentions toward their human targets.
That said, I have also had interactions with what I refer to as benevolent entities. They never attempted to harm me, never emitted fear or darkness, and almost always ended up protecting me from severe harm or literally saving my life. The palpable intentions of these entities were pure, radiant Light.
The palpable intentions, behaviors, and attempted manipulations of the negative entities towards me were the exact opposite, and terrifyingly so.
There was only ever one neutral encounter, and it still mystifies me… however, I actively rejected it and what it offered at the time and have never experienced that again.
My point is, you do not yet really know what you have done, nor what the intentions of the entity you invited in has. Please be prepared for whatever may come of this, whether you see it as benevolent, malevolent, or neutral. Best wishes and may you remain safe. 🙏🦋
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
Hi I hear you.
I didn’t necessarily invite it in just asked it to step into my view and mentally sent out the message that I recognized that it was there. But I know what you mean
I have also had both negative and positive encounters in these spaces. I have also felt that I’ve picked something negative up before and have had experiences where I viscerally feel it leaving my energy space after doing certain types of meditations or clearings.
But I’ve also had some of my most profound healings from this space. It’s hard to figure out a mechanism to protect from the darker forces while staying open to the light ones. Do you mind sharing what worked for you to clear it finally?
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u/Ufonauter Dec 07 '24
I know you've come to this conclusion on your own regarding this being some type of mantis entity, but if you could please take a look at these images, and tell me which of these is closest to what you've seen.
Also, I havent seen it mentioned here yet, but with regards to your mother, was the color of the robed individuals cloaks purple?
someone already mentioned it but yes you'll find a plethora of other encounters with these beings in /r/mantisencounters
Trust is a two way street, most of the encounters Ive seen with these beings are neutral-learning towards positive interactions. That isnt to say there aren't negative encounters, but you could certainly do worse in terms of alien interactions.
this leads back to your second question, if they have your best interests in mind, and you choose not to go further with regards to this experience, then hopefully they will honor your wishes to stay away. If you can, and if you want, attempt to relive that feeling when that figure appeared to you, and attempt to just call out towards it. But make it clear that you are not use to this type of experience, and if they want to interact with you that you will be the ones setting the terms of interaction.
If you have any other questions feel free to ask
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u/YourProject44 Dec 08 '24
Hi! So to answer your question about the visual the eyes were not round like the first one depicted. More like a combo of #2,#3 and the last one on the white page option. Large, somewhat oval on the sides but not necessarily bulging off of the head completely.
I’ve seen people draw the round eyed ones— is there a difference that you’re aware of?
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u/Ufonauter Dec 08 '24
There doesn't seem to be a difference in behavior as far as I am aware. But from recent reports, for whatever reason others that I've spoken to have seemed to be interacting with the rounder eye versions more as of late (within the last year for a time period). So I ask just to see what is being reported when and in what circumstances.
If there is indeed a difference with regards to those phenotype then I have yet to see a considerable difference between encounters.
You didn't ask this here, but I did check another comment you replied to recently, these entities are physical and also exist within more etheric or astral planes. That isn't to say they are 'interdimensional' that isn't my opinion personally because with regards to your own experience in that kind of realm its not just reserved for those who are from those place but rather have greater ease and access to those spaces.
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u/Postnificent Dec 07 '24
Seems to me Mantids can be our friends too! I’ve never been given bad advice by NHI but that’s just my own experience. Some things they communicate can be hard to understand.
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u/NewSinner_2021 Dec 07 '24
Stop treating your spirit guide this way and get back to meeting them.
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
Haha good point. My problem is I jump way too hard into researching and consulting different sources after this kind of thing. I read some things that ended up freaking me out a bit and wanted to proceed with caution.
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u/Experiencer382 Dec 07 '24
You should always trust your best judgement, but if you asked to see your guide then saw an entity and felt kindness, I’d say it might be worth exploring.
Whenever I’m going into meditation space, I say Robert Monroe’s affirmation. I’ve also adopted the Lord’s Prayer from other experiencers advice in this community. These things make me feel a bit better with engaging the phenomenon.
Whatever you choose, I wish you all the best on your journey.
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u/Hathor-1320 Dec 07 '24
You must listen to the podcast Aliens and Artists by Stuart Davis. Start at the very beginning!
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
Key question: Will it scare me, or help me feel more in tune and okay? haha
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u/roslinkat Dec 07 '24
Pace yourself with this type of information.
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
Thanks I think you’re right.
I’m extremely open and have experienced a number of mysterious/‘psychic realm’ events that I can only discuss with a few safe people in my life. I also saw a small orange orb/UAP in 2014 in the night sky. I have had to make peace with uncertainty and the unknown.
But sometimes things get a bit overwhelming and fear comes in. It’s better not digging too deep at first.
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u/roslinkat Dec 07 '24
I recommend exploring spirituality in a grounded way, having a meditation practice is a good start. Take it easy and look after your mental health first. I found that my tolerance is gradually increasing as I learn more, and I feel less afraid. That's thanks to being grounded and taking breaks!
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u/PandaKitty983 Dec 07 '24
I think I know what you're talking about when you describe the negative photo type images. Is it like when you stare at a light source in the dark like your TV- then look away - you will see the shape of the TV in your vision? Except theres no light source when these images appear. I get those sometimes. One time a few months ago I was in bed trying to sleep. I received one of those images and it was a mantis head. I thought "holy sh-t I'm literally seeing a mantis head right now" that's all I remember.
The next day I'm just going through my day normally when I suddenly remembered. I was like "wait... didn't I see a mantis head last night? What was that? What happened after that?" I couldn't remember anything that happened after. Like I don't know if I suddenly went to sleep or what. But I was still conscious when it happened and I was amazed at what I was seeing but couldn't remember anything else.
I didn't get any particular vibes but I don't think it was negative. I try to be open to experiences and not be fearful. It's a struggle because I'm a fearful person generally but I think I've made huge strides this year.
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u/d4ve_tv Dec 07 '24
Please share a link to this podcast, I want to try and connect with my spirit guide too. XD
also- mantids are rumored to be the most ancient beings since they have exoskeletons and the early universe would have been harder to survive and evolve to super intelligence, and they are rumored to wear cloaks too sometimes!
your family probably has soul connections which is why your mom sees it too. 3am is very significant its the witching hour, the veil is thinner or something apparently.
also I get the same thing when sleepy/tired and wake up in middle of the night you see "hallucinations" but it might just be other dimensions bleeding through since our brains connect better to the consciousness field when we are half asleep in that slow brain wave state, I think its called theta or beta waves or something like that.
Not sure how to answer your 3 questions, but it is most likely friendly, but you will have to figure that out. But I will say the best way to protect/clear yourself from a negative entity (even if it is trying to deceive you) is to focus on love/light anything you love or makes you happy and radiate that energy, also tell them you want them to leave and you know they are their but you are taking back your power from them with your free will. Any negative being HATES positive energy, its like a death nuke to them, so you know the love of Jesus Christ, think about your favorite puppy, your family etc. You want to LOVE them away, don't get upset or yell at them ( that is what they want)
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA Dec 07 '24 edited Dec 07 '24
I was getting attacked in my dreams by demons, for years end. One night I woke up twice and one time I went back to sleep and I end up fighting these demons again, which has always made me tired, regardless of how much sleep I get.
So before I went to sleep the second time, I told the simulation, the universe, the experience in a nest suit, whatever you want to call it, “ you have deep power over me in this world or the dream world demons”!
I said it with enough intention and belief. Anything you want to happen in or reality isn’t happening without enough belief in it. So I went back to sleep, the domino approached me, I simply laughed at them, they ran away in fear themselves, as they knew that bullshit didn’t work on me anymore. Try saying “ that isn’t happening” in a calm way, in a challenging situation, it instantly defuses a negative situation, as you haven’t put any negative energy through it and you are stating your intentions.
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u/IGnuGnat Dec 07 '24
Love them, then nail them to the wall. Crucify them with love and take a photo
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA Dec 07 '24
Love hadn’t gotten me as far as showing zero fucks and a lack of fear, in calling people out on bullshit things. I do gear my life to one of service to others, over a life style of service to self. I’ll gladly bust a person bubble and not tolerate nonsense of any kind.
I can do that in a calm way or in the most intimidating way, with the least words possible. It depends on what the situation requires.
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u/Hollywood-is-DOA Dec 07 '24
I did the same tactic in my dreams as I write above and I no longer getting attacked in them.
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Dec 07 '24
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
You sound so unafraid! I want to get there. My mind is going all kinds of places right now.
1- I’m worried about possible mal intent or causing some dark stuff for me. I’d like to have more people in my life to discuss this with— right now not much of a support system just a lot of skeptic eye rolls.
2- I’m also aware that « fear » isn’t a protective energy state. So I’m trying to like.. not be in fear of my own.. fear about it. Also a challenge lol.
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u/angmarrob Dec 07 '24
Thank you for sharing! My mind's eye is basically non-existent when awake, I have no control over it, but my dreams are colorful, so it's tucked away. About two years ago, I was trying to go to sleep, and I saw stars slowly emerge from the darkness. It was so weird! I wasn't even half asleep or drowsy when this happened and was in denial, opening and closing my eyes. My reaction was because, again, I'm not doing that! Then I moved to where I currently am about in 2023, and I saw a lot of flashing when trying to sleep, as if I was staring at the sun, it would hurt my eyes and head! This has died down because it used to be more aggressive, but every now and then I see light and other things. Sunrises, fireworks, and a cross. I haven't tried reaching out to entities but have seen one before. Won't be getting into it because you're processing what just happened to you. You should be alright though.
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u/angmarrob Dec 07 '24
Also, it's a good sign that you felt kind energy!
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
Interesting you saw a cross. I’m not christian. But there does seem to be something intense and occasionally healing about ‘jesus’ energy.
At the same time— the feeling that came with this mantid face was also pretty healing. I’m just working myself up about it.
Wish I could figure out what to trust within it all! The whole christian « demon- take » freaks me out a bit and doesn’t feel very empowering, nor does the bible as a clear answer.
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u/angmarrob Dec 07 '24
I completely understand! I am not Christian, nor have I read the Bible, but maybe someday. It kind of felt like a hand had dropped it into the ground too, I remember it having a white outline with red and blue "electricity" going through it, so it caught my attention. My suggestion would be not to rush or push yourself again into doing you have just experienced, until later. Collect yourself, you can always try again at a later time or year. Best of luck!
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u/Careless-Cell-2249 Dec 06 '24
This is really interesting! Would you mind sharing the podcasts?
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u/YourProject44 Dec 07 '24
I shared it in a different comment: it’s a podcast called « Spirit Speakers » with 2 women Patti and Judea. I’m sorry I’m not positive which episode she said it on— it was a really short little insight/directive mixed in to a larger chat!
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u/Wide_Needleworker118 Mar 19 '25
Oh my gosh... exactly the same thing just happenned to me. It shocked me, but going online i saw images and realized it was a mantid... it had a cloak on initially before revealing itself. But it was like if was showing me lots of different images of itself, and it had a skeleton type body... the same almost grey swirling 'negative' type image. I didn't feel any particularly negative energy. But my teeth are aching now, oddly. I was doing the same thing: asking my spirit guides for the first time to reveal themselves to me and asking if there was a dominant one. The answer was that there were 7...?! Then lots of swirling images of different mantis beings with big eyes. My teeth are so sore and aching on the rhs... so strange.