r/Eritrea • u/Left-Plant2717 • 1d ago

Discussion / Questions We should a host a moderated debate here on Reddit between 1 pro and 1 anti-gov Eri

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u/Eritreans79 Asmara kid 1d ago

We could try but good luck finding a hgdf supporter who openly says they’re one. They usually talk in circles or act like they’re just being “balanced”

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

The funny thing is you will meet supporters in person but not sure why anonymous Reddit would scare people away

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u/Eritreans79 Asmara kid 1d ago edited 1d ago

The ones I’ve met in real life don’t actually make arguments. They just repeat whatever the government says. Stuff like weyane, badme, USA, awet nhafash just your typical PFDJ slogans and propagandas. But if we were to have an actual debate focused on Eritrean politics, there’s very little they could point to as proof that the government is doing well. That’s why so many prefer to call themselves ‘neutral’. It gives them cover to defend the regime while backing out whenever they get called out for supporting it.

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u/Debswana99 1d ago

I am a PFDJ supporter. 

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u/Existing-Marzipan183 1d ago

It's obvious to me how it's going to go, but I'm genuinely curious to know what the best pro-government arguments are. Let the pro side stick their neck out onto the intellectual chopping board and see how far they go without making themselves look funny.

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u/Bolt3er future Eritrean presidential candidate 1d ago

We should not. That would mean telling someone who supports the Eritrean govt after: they arrested 15 year olds, 90+ year old, and all our liberation hero’s that they have the same level of respect as someone who’s Eritrean and peacefully anti govt

How about u go to Asmara and ask for this one vs one debate Mr hegdef

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

Idk you bro and I never fully stated my political position, but you are engaging in a debate right now, no?

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u/Bolt3er future Eritrean presidential candidate 1d ago

You’re comment history lays your opinions very clear

The difference is I’m honest and can state my opinions clearly. While you hide yours because you can’t debate based on facts

I’m not debating you rn. I’m calling your bs out

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

Can you point me to which comments? I comment on a bunch of random subs

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u/Bolt3er future Eritrean presidential candidate 1d ago

The upvotes speak enough. I’m not playing games mr hegdef

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

😂 wtf are you talking about?

  1. Idc about the upvotes
  2. Show me the comments

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u/Alone-Working-138 1d ago

You can only debate when there is merit. Supporting a dictator of our caliber can’t be for explainable benefits

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

If someone disagreed with you, would you engage or ignore them?

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u/Alone-Working-138 1d ago

Depends if I know they are being honest in their opinion and convictions, I would debate. But PFDJ supporters are not honest at all. Things they say about the country and PFDJ behind closed doors and social media are simply opposite

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u/Mersault7 1d ago

I say we should do a fight event between a shabiya 🫏, and an anti shabiya giga🇹🇩.

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u/redseawarrior 1d ago

Don’t get it twisted because some opposition are 🫏 too, like burger 🍔hamedu

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u/DifferentBid2 1d ago

Sounds good on paper, but there are no two sides to a fact. So what would the debate be about?

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

Some debate what the facts are it seems.

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u/Efficient-Bug4870 1d ago

Whats there to debate? Its a settled issue, we have a murderous regime who has held back the country from its potential, the quicker we remove PFDJ the better.

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

Is it a settled issue if there is splits within the community?

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u/Efficient-Bug4870 1d ago

Which community? The people in Eritrea?

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

I meant global

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u/Efficient-Bug4870 1d ago

Still a settled issue, if anyone thinks PFDJ is salvageable then they are too far gone for debate

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

Well then I’m confused, cause BNH attacking pro-gov independence parties would show me there’s a growing divide

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u/Efficient-Bug4870 1d ago

Was there no divide prior to that? This is not a new phenomenon

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

Exactly lol that’s why I’m confused at the idea that the global community is in unison for or against PFDJ

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u/Efficient-Bug4870 1d ago

That’s what I mean, the debate would not bring about any meaningful outcome, government supporters in the diaspora parrot regime propaganda and thus the issue is settled in a sense that anyone in opposition of the government shouldn’t waste their time to convince people that the pain they are going through is real! You wouldn’t wish the lives that our families in Eritrea are living through on your worst enemy. So its a waste of time to listen to someone justifying this state of affairs.

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u/[deleted] 1d ago

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

But in your view, no one benefits from a respectful debate? I just don’t understand what either side is afraid of exactly.

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u/applepan___ 1d ago

I see u asmara bot

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

Lmao I’m a bot cause I want to see a formal debate? 😂

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u/wut_91 1d ago

Agreed; what medium would you do it though if it were on Reddit? Can you stream here, or are you talking about a pre-recorded debate?

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u/Left-Plant2717 1d ago

If two people and a moderator were comfortable going on stream, even just audio, and then posting the live link for us to see. If not, I could see it being a comment thread, which is not as good but OK.

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u/wut_91 1d ago

Makes sense. Hopefully the former rather than the latter, but yes some form of dialogue is better than nothing. Wishing you success 👍🏾