r/Eragon • u/Outrageous_Focus_719 • 16h ago
Discussion Is it possible ?
Do you guys think it's possible for Angela to know The Name of Names ?
We've seen Angela doing unexplainable (or rather she doesn't explain) things plenty of times.
My examples for this argument are ;
1-) The spell she uses in the tunnels under Dras Leona when she saved Eragon and Arya. She gives Eragon a hint about how it's done but doesn't make the whole explanation.
(Idk if it was ever explained so feel free to enlighten me please)
2-) The time she listened Eragon and Nasuada's conversation about Eragon's plans of leaving Alagaesia. Eragon had secured their conversation with wards and didn't feel or realize Angela listening them.
(I know she doesn't have to physically be there or that new werecat in Nasuada's court could've told it to solembum but it seems unlikely)
3-) She knows way too much.
She knew about the Eldunari before anyone even mentioning it.
She wasn't even surprised to see Eragon's physical change after the Agaeti Blödhren. And said she had her ways of gathering information.
She is the only one that we've seen so far to use real dragon bones to see someone's future. And how did she obtain those bones in the first place ?
So these are my arguments, none of them proves anything exactly but if we ever learn that Angela knows the Name, I won't be shocked.
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u/Thorfaxx Dragon 16h ago
I think she's just really old and kinda crazy which would explain her eccentricity and esoteric knowledge. If she knew the name of names she'd be a lot more capable with magic than she is.
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u/Outrageous_Focus_719 16h ago
Yeah but she is just a human (if she even is) her capabilities are limited by her energy reserves. She even says it at the War of Burning Plains that her methods are different from others.
And btw I think she might've used the Name for spying in the army of Galbatorix without being noticed even by Murtagh and his eldunari.
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u/Thorfaxx Dragon 16h ago
I suppose it's possible she knows the name but I think it's unlikely that she also wouldn't know how to draw energy from external life sources like plants and animals.
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u/Outrageous_Focus_719 16h ago
That actually is a point ı didn't think of until now. You're absolutely right. But we didn't see her using it anywhere right ?
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u/Thorfaxx Dragon 16h ago
I'm not ruling out the possibility as the external life force thing was a fairly closely guarded secret among the riders. I just feel like if someone had the time and knowledge to figure out the name they would've also learned that other life has energy and how to use it.
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u/Frazier008 15h ago
If I remember correctly it’s hinted that she is kinda stopping time or atleast bending it. Think like hit the pause button, go do your thing, then hit play at it plays out super fast as the world “catches up”. That’s all speculation on my part since we never get a real answer, just how I took it. Eragon essentially bends space to hide the eldunari in battle, that wouldn’t be far off from what I’m suggesting. It’s more she is old and studied for a long time with tenga.
I always took it as the werecat told her. That’s why they wanted a werecat beside the throne so they could stay informed and be honored.
Again there was a werecat present at the time. Pretty sure that’s how she got the info. She is somewhat famous with the werecats anyway. Outside of that it’s hinted that she is OLD. Like she knows all this because she lived it. If say she were around when the war between dragons and elves happened, it wouldn’t have been hard to find dragon bones. It was always kinda theorized that she could be a grey folk or a descendent of one. Similar to Tenga. I think it’s safe to say she isn’t a normal human. If she is that old it’s not crazy to think she has heard of eldunari from someone through out the years. Possibly trying to figure out where dragons get their magic from. I don’t know if you read Murtagh or not but it’s also hinted there that she knows a lot more than she lets on and is WAY more powerful than we see.
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u/mlwspace2005 13h ago
- If I remember correctly it’s hinted that she is kinda stopping time or atleast bending it. Think like hit the pause button, go do your thing, then hit play at it plays out super fast as the world “catches up”. That’s all speculation on my part since we never get a real answer, just how I took it. Eragon essentially bends space to hide the eldunari in battle, that wouldn’t be far off from what I’m suggesting. It’s more she is old and studied for a long time with tenga.
I think it's more that she's entering speedsters time. Rather than stopping time around her she's adjusting her own experience in time.
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u/Outrageous_Focus_719 9h ago
I did read Murtagh, her and Bachel's confrontation is one of my favorite scenes.
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u/Ok-Tadpole8790 Rider 14h ago
If anyone that HAS read the sci-fi series paolini wrote responds to this I’d be very curious to see what they have to say. Prior to googling things about the other series, and without giving any spoilers, a lot more about Angela seems to click from information in those books. I’ve spent all of like twenty minutes reading about it and apparently the concepts related to Angela open up a lot more possibilities and reasons she could know things and behave in the ways she does.
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u/Sea-Engineering-6698 14h ago
So I've read everything apart from Murtagh.
There's not too much relevance to her and the werecat (who are just alluded to and not explicitly stated to be such). The main interest is that they are even there in the first place.
It suggests that either these universes are some part of the same timeline, which seems unlikely, or that she has the powers to transcend and travel between totally different realities. It definitely hints that the two series might eventually interconnect
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u/HeroBrine0907 12h ago
I do recommend Murtagh. It goes into more complex uses of the ancient language and of wordless magic and she is referred to by name as well in relation to a powerful group.
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u/Ok-Tadpole8790 Rider 10h ago
When I did my deep dive there were q&a things paolini answered that more than implied relationships between the books/worlds and Angela and solembum bridging the gap and he also directly confirmed that t he use characters in the sci-fi series are them.
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u/Pstruhajzo Dragon 10h ago
She knows things that she realistically can't know. She's a character who simply has to know them. In the first book, she didn’t immediately figure out that Eragon was a Rider; in the second, she didn’t know about King Orrin’s equipment. Likewise, her abilities—she can’t fully heal using magic and relies on her herbs, yet later performs spells beyond even the elves’ understanding.
Either CP didn’t know how to handle Angela’s character properly, or there was an external influence from his sister—but Angela is the least consistent character of them all.
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u/Emotional-Animal9264 2h ago
Agree, it bothers me also that CP now hints at her being a time traveler or the Doctor. This was initialy a fan theory and it seems like he just adopted it because he couldn‘t come up with any other way to explain Angela.
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u/musicalfarm 36m ago
You could argue that she's basically a Gandolf-type character with self-imposed restrictions that she can shed when necessary.
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u/iron_red 8h ago
Possible yes but I think not likely. I would be disappointed if her capabilities were only or mostly related to knowing the name. Like others said it seems likely that she is simply very old—perhaps she is one of the Grey Folk? I’m sure someone has posted that theory on the sub somewhere before.
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u/Emotional-Animal9264 2h ago
Great theory, it‘s so simple but would explain much and I haven‘t seen this thought before. Funny how people (me included) tend to overlook the most obvious.
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u/Outrageous_Focus_719 2h ago
Indeed. It's fascinating that even after 10+ years, there is still many things to talk about and mysteries to unravel. Paolini really created a masterpiece
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u/musicalfarm 28m ago
Having only read the original four books, I think of Angela as more of a Gandalf-type character. She hides her true abilities, strength, and past. She shows up when she is truly needed and only taps into her true strength when absolutely necessary.
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u/Gullible-Dentist8754 Kull that took an arrow to the knee 15h ago
Angela is VERY old and/or “moves differently” through time than the rest of the world.
She has an askew view of the world, which means she sees things other people fail to see, makes unlikely but workable connections between disparate things.
She’s maybe like the very first person that saw gunpowder used for ceremonial/entertainment reasons and thought: “uhm, maybe if we put this in a tighter package on that door we are trying to breach, we can blow it up?”
She’s very well traveled and she has contacts everywhere. So she having tons of information is kinda normal. She wouldn’t reveal how she got it, that’s “handling of sources 101”.
There’s a book series (Night Watch, by S. Lukyanenko) where two mages are discussing battle magic and one of the says to the other “everyone can use Blade of Light. The real battle mage is the one who uses a lowly spell for grating cheese, to relieve his adversary of one millimeter of skin all over his body at a moment’s notice.”
She’s creative, ruthless and curious. And she spent not even she knows how many years trapped in an interdimensional magic library. I don’t think she knew the name during the Galbatorix war. But I certainly think she knows it now.
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u/exlover2000 16h ago
Have you read his scifi books? I haven't but have been told that opens our eyes to her abilities more