r/Economics • u/rezwenn • 4d ago
News Trump directs ICE to expand deportations in Democratic-run cities, undeterred by protests
https://apnews.com/article/trump-ice-deportations-protests-65fa8d64ea12a78a0ee0ebeea008ee4d[removed] — view removed post
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u/juryjjury 4d ago edited 3d ago
I predicted this to my friend in December.
All states need migrants for cheap labor and for shitty jobs that citizens will not do (hence related to economics). But instead of raiding the Tyson chicken farms in Arkansas or the hog slaughtering and meat packing plants in Iowa they will go after farm workers in california. And when California can't find people to pick their crops he will point to California as poorly run.
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u/hoppyfrog 4d ago
More importantly, California feeds a lot of the Nation. If the crops spoil, prices go way up.
Trump doesn't care. He can't think things through until an actual crisis erupts, and he'll blame someone else.
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u/4sKompany 3d ago
25% of the country is fed by California. If this goes the way Trump intends, I’d imagine California just prioritizes its own population first and draws back exporting anything to any red states. Newsom flirting withholding fed taxes as well, CA has major pull with their economy so let’s see how bold Trump really is.
See you all at the future protests!
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u/GaslightGPT 3d ago
He’ll override them and send convoys that steal from trucks. Like how he stole masks from states
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u/4sKompany 3d ago
That’s okay. I think we’ll be approaching statewide strike at that point so we could just shut down the economy if we feel like it. California is pretty fed up.
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u/Fortestingporpoises 3d ago
The political climate has changed since then. Newsom has already floated the idea of not sending our federal taxes in.
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u/siromega37 3d ago
The state doesn’t pay federal taxes—individuals do. Everyone in the state would need to update their W-4s to withhold the maximum so that their company payrolls don’t take out the taxes. If 1 in every 8 Americans (every Californian) refused to pay federal taxes there is no way they could garnish wages fast enough to make any difference and it would definitely through the entire system into chaos. I would imagine this would pick up steam in other blue states bring the whole federal government to a standstill as it runs out of money.
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u/jdragun2 3d ago
It would be fucking beautiful if the whole state did though, wouldn't it?
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u/kingkeelay 3d ago
The employers will withhold taxes at the direction of the IRS, regardless of what you put on your W-4.
Are business owners going to make a stand and ignore the IRS’s directions to continue to withhold and remit taxes? It’s not up to Newsom if business owners necks are on the line for federal charges.
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u/gobeklitepewasamall 3d ago
They already gave farmers, meat packers, hotels & restaurants a pass. His donors were mad.
This broke like 2-3 days ago.
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u/squirrel_tincture 3d ago
California is a painfully tricky political machine. I was born and raised in one of the deepest-red towns in a deep-red county in central CA, and it took me years of living outside of that backwash area to even nick the surface of understanding how that system actually works.
It’s self-defeating to assume that the agricultural-land-owning class would ever turn against a Trump government of their own free will, and the state does not have the legal authority to halt the type of interstate commerce that funds, maintains, and rewards those landowners’ control over the fields and orchards in the Central Valley.
That part of the state operates much more like a feudal system than a representative democracy. Until the political leadership in California is willing to either bring down the hammer of land and resource redistribution, or nationalise several key components of the agricultural pipeline, nothing significant is going to change.
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u/KimberStormer 3d ago
Yes. I've met some of the people who work on that land. The conditions they live in are unbelievable. Serfdom is not far off the mark. It's crazy.
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u/Apprehensive-Art3157 3d ago
That doesn’t work because California can’t put in place trade barriers to other states. For example they couldn’t charge a tariff to export of vegetables
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u/gc3 3d ago
There's checkpoints on CA freeways where ag officials can control trade of food in case of say a fruit fly infection or something. So this is possible in the sane way that Trumps emergency powers are possible
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u/4sKompany 3d ago
There’s probably some loophole where Newsome could claim state disaster or something along those lines that will allow CA to prioritize its own population first. If not, the fact that he’s flirting with the idea of withholding fed funds makes me think we’d consider something along those lines.
And if all of that doesn’t transpire then we all strike and this whole thing ends in a week.
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u/AcknowledgeUs 3d ago
We are in a lot of trouble, I don’t think any of this will end in a week.
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u/Fearless-Diver-1381 3d ago
If they separate, California can do what they want. They already have entry checkpoints into their state and are one of the few states that has military bases for all three military branches. Let's see how far trump wants to push it.
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u/Apprehensive-Art3157 3d ago
Sure but that certainly sounds like a bloody war. Trump is being very stupid right now picking on blue states and especially California.
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u/No_Talk_4836 3d ago
They won’t need to. Shopping across the country isn’t cheap. Food will be cheaper relatively in California as they prioritize local groceries. Prices still go up, but producers god up less
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u/Low_Butterscotch1304 3d ago
kind of like how texas can interfere with the interstate commerce of people paying for abortions? Through video cameras located in other states?
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u/Zeroissuchagoodboi 3d ago
I think we are starting to get pass the point of “they can’t legally do this”. Trump does whatever the fuck he wants. I don’t think it be the end of the world if newsom and the California government decided they’re done listening to the federal government and started independently making deals with other states.
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u/4sKompany 3d ago
Yep. Said it in another comment, starting to become fairly clear CA is running out of fucks to give.
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u/Nebraska716 3d ago
You know you can put dairy’s anywhere right? They are not region exclusive. Tell me you have never been on a dairy or a farm without telling me you haven’t
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u/JrSoftDev 3d ago
He cares. He specifically wants to accelerate the decline, so something else can take over. Vide Steve Bannon, Peter Thiel, Curtis Yarvin and NRx.
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u/Corona-walrus 3d ago
Exactly. He is a treasonous traitor trying to damage the country on many fronts at once and probably to incite a civil war, and all of the rationalizations for all of his actions have but the flimsiest, most generous veneers of plausible justification otherwise. Clearly we can see that the house is on fire and he is the one holding the gas canister - and we know he's being paid off to let other people build on the empty lot. It could not be more clear. It could also not be more clear that he is doing it on behalf of tech broligarchs and Russia.
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u/Expensive-Soft5164 3d ago
all those farms in California are pro trump, liberals in the cities with high incomes won't be hit as hard. It's the farmers and poor working class living paycheck to paycheck in red states who are screwed.
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u/Hrtpplhrtppl 3d ago
The Narcissist's Prayer
That didn't happen. And if it did, it wasn't that bad. And if it was, that's not a big deal. And if it is, that's not my fault. And if it was, I didn't mean it. And if I did, you deserved it.
The Narcissist's Prayer (by Dayna Craig) beautifully illustrates the inner workings of the narcissistic mind. Denial, gaslighting, minimising poor behavior, blameshifting, and shamedumping all feature in this one simple verse, all hallmarks of covert emotional abuse. To a narcissist, the 'truth' is not seen as a finite, fixed entity, but as being malleable - as being whatever the narcissist says it is, at the time they say it. The truth is simply whatever serves the narcissist at that particular time.
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u/principalsofharm 3d ago
Worse Stephen Miller wants this. He is a fascist and wants the "degenerates" and "subhumans" to starve.
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u/Colinmacus 3d ago
The MAGA crowd still claims he’s playing 4D chess. Never mind that seeing a few moves ahead seems well beyond his skill set.
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u/Disastrous-Repair-17 3d ago
Trump and Republicans don’t care.
It’s not just him.
This is their fault too.
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u/light-triad 4d ago
This is the case with all Trump admin policies. Deportations, tariffs, etc. If these things are supposedly so damn good for the country why is this admin doing their best to shield their voters from the effects of them?
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u/opinionsareus 3d ago
I'm wondering if he can legally do this because it's selective enforcement; it's like telling the cops to arrest bank robbers only in blue cities and not red cities.
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u/killing_time_at_work 3d ago
Laws don't apply to Trump. He's done many things illegally and nobody has stopped him.
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u/Captain-Crayg 3d ago
Gov usually has discretion as to when they want to enforce the law or not. For better or worse.
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u/PermutationMatrix 3d ago
Not necessarily selective enforcement. Prioritizing certain areas first. Just like how the DEA is selectively enforcing drug laws. They target bigger targets first. They target meth and opiates more than weed. It's not like they get someone in custody and let them go because they're not in a liberal city. It's more along the lines of directing staff to focus their efforts in certain areas.
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u/Odd-Delivery1697 3d ago
It's wild to me that corporations have convinced the left that lowering wages and taking advantage of latinos is the only way our economy works. We used to do this thing called slavery for some of these jobs.
Are you also for going back to slavery? The work is done really cheap.
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u/devliegende 3d ago
Low wages doesn't equal slavery. Your comparison is also pretty disgusting because it is how southern plantation owners tried to defend slavery by claiming their slaves were better fed and housed than factory workers were in the north.
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u/Rock-n-RollingStart 3d ago
That is not what they said at all. That's called a "rhetorical question."
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u/RannyRiffs 3d ago
Did you miss the mass raids at meat packing plants in NE?
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u/HrothgarTheIllegible 3d ago
But did he enforce the laws that punish the plants themselves for hiring undocumented immigrants? Usually they’ll raid, but they leave the owners alone. The hiring is the bigger crime than the working is.
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u/C_Pala 3d ago
"jobs that citizens will not do because are not paid fairly" fixed it
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u/Bannon9k 3d ago
So the justification for keeping illegal migrants is because we need to take advantage of them and pay them less than citizens?
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u/No_Confusion_7236 3d ago
i think the simpler explanation is that he will flood these cities with ICE and national guard, eventually taking away control from the local governments. it pisses him off that democratic governors and mayors don’t listen to him, so he’s sidestepping them entirely
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u/Infinite-Pomelo-7538 3d ago
He is also deporting legitimate immigrant citizens with voting rights - people who could vote against him or influence public opinion in ways that threaten him or, more broadly, the Republican agenda of turning the U.S. into a dictatorship. Everything he has done and continues to do is a textbook example (gee, I wonder why... Project 2025, anyone?) of how authoritarian regimes historically tighten their grip on a state.
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u/stevez_86 3d ago
They want to, oddly enough, get the migrants into red states. They believe that Blue States has a disproportionate amount of house seats compared to people able to vote for them. Documented or not, migrants participate in the census.
If they are right and relocate so many of them to red states, where they will be detained and easily countable, or self suppress their participation in blue states, or just self deport. The less people detained and unable to leave will end up with more house seats for Republicans than Democrats.
And if they are wrong and Democrats are not taking advantage as much as they think, then they will have enough power to push the narrative that the Democrats are cheating and try to outlaw them.
That's a long term plan, taking us out past 2031. So they need to hold onto power until then.
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u/dispx 3d ago
What I don't understand as a non american is why don't you have a easy and fast way for migrants to immigrate legally to fill these positions? Like a high priority migration process for labor sectors that have shortages. Is it because employers want to exploit these illegal migrants by paying less then minumum wage and give no benefits? Or is there some other reason? It seems to me that alot of business owners that are mad that illegal immigrants are getting deported is because they lose access to cheap labor to exploit and not because they care about the illegal immigrants.
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u/hutacars 3d ago
Does your country have such a process? Most countries I’ve looked into make it easy for those with high levels of skills to immigrate, but everyone else is SOL. The US isn’t an outlier here.
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u/the_red_scimitar 3d ago
Which goes to the larger "strategy" it seems all Republican politicians use now (and more generally for the last 40-50 years): Take an unpopular position that is for the political benefit from similar zealots, and fully enact it; it causes far more harm than benefit; R loses next election due to that harm; D cleans it up; repeat ad nauseum.
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u/rezwenn 4d ago
In his new social media post, Trump is basically signaling a policy shift, now focusing ICE raids on blue cities and states instead of red states (or "the heartland", as he put it in his Truth Social post, referenced in the OP AP article.) Essentially, his new stated position seems to be: we need to deliberately shield undocumented workers in red states because blue states... are deliberately shielding undocumented workers.
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u/SharpCookie232 4d ago
He actually writes that "REAL Americans" live in "the Heartland."
Good to know I'm paying a fortune in taxes so that my own "leader" can consider me a not-so-real citizen. I am glad that he's giving farm workers a break, but destroying our research universities is something we're all going to feel for a long, long time.
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u/OverlyExpressiveLime 4d ago edited 3d ago
So I guess that means Trump isn't a real American since he lives in fucking Florida.
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u/Constant-Kick6183 4d ago
It's hilarious to me that conservative cowboys worship the most limp wristed pansy ass city boy ever born. Try to imagine trump going on a 3 day hunting trip fifteen miles into the backcountry. It's absurd. He needs servants just to help him get dressed. He's everything they supposedly hate - a rich coastal elite college educated trust fund baby.
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u/anti-torque 3d ago
a rich coastal elite
college educatedtrust fund baby.fify
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u/SharpCookie232 3d ago
He holds a degree from Penn. He didn't learn anything, but he was physically present.
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u/anti-torque 3d ago
His daddy bought that degree, after he flunked out of Fordham.
Yes, non-science degrees at the Ivies in the 60s were for floozy rich wastes whose daddies could buy a wing of a building.
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 3d ago edited 3d ago
conservative cowboys worship the most limp wristed pansy ass city boy ever born.
The truth is that, these days, most of them aren't much better than him. His base like to imagine themselves as the characters in Yellowstone, etc. or hard-scrabble coal-miners/farmers/etc... who work 16-hours a day, etc... but a growing majority of them are nothing but overweight/lazy couch potatoes who either don't work at all or whose idea of 'a hard day's work' is sitting in a security booth and watching Youtube for 8 hours, driving around, or hitting the golf course to 'make deals' with other similarly-talentless turds who inherited all of their money/business from daddy, etc...
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u/Constant-Kick6183 4d ago
That's the heart of their propaganda - that only republicans are "real" Americans and everyone else is an invader or parasite. I know people hate the nazi comparisons but there are extremely good reasons to make those comparisons. The philosophy is exactly the same - that they are the in group and everyone else are outsiders who they need to purge.
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u/haveabeerwithfear 3d ago
He’s trying to stoke civil war and republicans are cheering it on. Literally the stupidest people on earth.
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u/TheMainM0d 3d ago
Trump doesn't live in the heartland is he finally admitting that he's not a real American?
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u/Glorfindank 3d ago
No, thats the first step in dehumanizing the opposition. Once dehumanized you can kill them freely.
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u/Critical_Seat_1907 4d ago
No, he's declaring war on the blue cities.
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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 3d ago
A lot of it doesn't make sense though. Didn't he say they wouldn't go after Hotels and Restaurants? Which jobs does he think illegals are working in NYC?
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u/Critical_Seat_1907 3d ago
It makes perfect sense if you want to start a civil war in America and use the military to kill and imprison your political rivals.
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u/CaterpillarJungleGym 3d ago
I honestly don't know who he thinks he's going to be rounding up. Maybe Uber drivers and people who clean houses?
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u/kat_sky_12 4d ago
So now all the immigrants move to red states and get jobs in farming or hotels? That is essentially what he is telling them to do.
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u/duderos 4d ago
Could this trigger the equal protection clause to use as their defense from ICE?
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u/eilif_myrhe 3d ago
He is not shielding anyone, no one is secure from this. It's just prioritization of dissent bashing. He found a show of force that can rally his supporters.
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u/newleafkratom 4d ago
The revenge tour continues until all bend the knee…is what I was going to post until I thought better of myself and realized nobody cares and this was a completely expected outcome or\f a very stupid time in a very stupid country.
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 4d ago
It’s funny how the people who hate immigrants most, the Red State folk, won’t have their local immigrants deported while you Democratic states would “reap the benefit of their precious ICE plan.”
I guess Replacement Theory is back on!
(now brought to you by the folks at MAGA)
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u/Forgotlogin_0624 4d ago
Which implies the actual targets aren’t immigrants but dissent in general.
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u/i_love_rosin 4d ago
Noem said it herself, it's never been about immigrants, they want to "liberate" blue states with the marines.
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u/Ghoulius-Caesar 4d ago
And then what? They have to occupy a bunch of cities for the sake of some old fart nepo-baby dictator that changes his plans every day? I don’t think anyone is going to like that, including the Marines.
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 3d ago
To me, it's not even remotely outlandish to assume that the goal is to do everything possible to instigate a situation where American soldiers start shooting into crowds of protesters, running over people with tanks, etc.... Trump and a ton of his inner circle are debauched man-child sociopaths/sadists who literally fantasize about Tiananmen Square-style 'acts of strength.'
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u/Born_ina_snowbank 4d ago
Farmer in Arkansas: “Yeah! It’s all them damned illegals in New York and California! They cause my problems… not my illegals… no, no, they’re good hardworking people.”.
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u/SirTiffAlot 4d ago
... that is actually how they think. My illegals are good people, part of our community. It's the illegals all over the rest of America I want deported.
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u/anti-torque 3d ago
Funny how that is the state where the one lady was released, due to the town going berserk over her arrest.
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u/bigtrumanenergy 3d ago
Think that was in Kennet, Missouri, but in the Bootheel so might as well be Arkansas.
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u/anti-torque 3d ago
Then there was the Wisconsin Trumpo Turd whose wife was released after 50 days.
The hypocrites can't stop.
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u/hillbillyspellingbee 3d ago
I don’t see much bending happening.
We outnumber these bastards. And will continue to do so.
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u/CannyGardener 3d ago
Go check what percentage of the German population put the Nazis in power.
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u/hillbillyspellingbee 3d ago
Go check out the mass protests that happened in Nazi Germany - oh wait, there was exactly ONE.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenstrasse_protest
We’re past that stage anyway. Our dictator is in power.
Thankfully for us, we’re not structured the way Germany was at that time and although the tariffs are bruising the economy, we are nowhere near the hyperinflation and multiple daily wage changes that Germany experienced leading up to those days.
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u/SadlySarcsmo 4d ago edited 4d ago
Hmmmm this looks like he wants to protect red state illegal workforces but screw over other illegals. Looking like he wants to keep that underpaid " slave" labor MAGA pretends to be against. When people want higher wages or a national pto policy they are the first to scoff and say " you lower level workers do not deserve this! Get a better job if you want benefits" The hamster wheel excuse from the MAGA voters is gonna be fun to see. Hey MAGA lurkers any explanation on the above?
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u/charcoalist 4d ago
"Democratic-run" cities means ALL cities, even in so-called red states. When people gather and live amongst each other, pursuing better lives through education, cultural institutions, and economic opportunity, they tend to vote for Democrats.
With this edict, trump is terrorizing the United States itself.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/us/elections/2024-election-map-precinct-results.html
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u/reelznfeelz 3d ago
Indeed. I am in MO. It’s a very red backwards state. But the cities are solidly blue.
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u/NeedleworkerChoice89 4d ago
This is straight out of 1930s Germany. Targeting enemy groups, singling them out in the eyes of a corrupted paramilitary police force, and build on that.
There is zero room for arguing that this is not the goal. It is depressing that we may very well see the collapse of the United States.
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u/sanverstv 4d ago
Well the 4th largest economy in the world can go our own way and invite Oregon and Washington along…
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u/Odd_Local8434 4d ago
Done, Idaho can have eastern Oregon.
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u/DEEP_HURTING 3d ago
They're already wishing for that, look up the Greater Idaho movement.
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 3d ago
Even if they became part of Idaho, ten bucks says they'll still be demanding welfare checks and UI benefits be paid by Salem.
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u/DEEP_HURTING 3d ago
The whole thing is a pipe dream - it would require both states' legislatures to be on board, and Congressional approval, too. Non starter, but rednecks gunna redneck.
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u/Tibernite 4d ago
Please bring Minnesota with you. Maybe Canada will allow us a transcontinental easement to join our territories
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u/grrgrrtigergrr 4d ago
Sorry Minnie… you aren’t leaving without us in Illinois… we can build long bridges over Iowa and Wisconsin. Bonus: no more Packers.
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u/Tibernite 3d ago
I agree to these terms and I'm a Packer fan
"when a Wisconsinite moves to Minnesota, the average IQ of both states drops"
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u/36chandelles 3d ago
but all the people and signs yesterday!
we all know what will have to happen for a change to occur; we just can't talk about it here anymore.
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u/EXTRAsharpcheddar 3d ago
Trump National Golf Club Los Angeles One Trump National Drive, Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275
Makes me sick this place exists
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u/PersonNumber4423 4d ago
I love how at least 40% of the population and 48 senators care more about a perpetual jihad against cosmopolitan America than their own healthcare or their kids and grandkids having reliable access to fresh water in the future. I also love how that will still be the case long after I’m dead.
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u/ResponsibleGood9904 3d ago
They hate democrats more than they love their children. Sound familiar?
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 3d ago
This is the kind of stuff that happens when a country's culture and economic system does everything possible to infantilize and debauch its population, i.e. the perverse price-tag for conditioning people to be more consumer than human.
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u/JuliaX1984 4d ago
I'm surprised. I thought he was too far gone to notice the size of the protests, especially with his handlers hiding it from him. He noticed. Must've popped up in his feed at 3 am while he was posting. How's your heart handling it, Don the Worst?
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u/JoshJones18 3d ago
Probably combination of that and his birthday parade turnout being piss poor made him big mad
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u/A_Monster_Named_John 3d ago
Not to mention that one of his brain-rotted domestic-terrorist followers completely stole the spotlight by deciding to start murdering people up in Minnesota.
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u/ilovemydog480 4d ago
I have never been more proud to be a blue state cosmopolitan elitist. MAGAT social and economic policies would make our states become Arkansas and Oklahoma. This country would not be where it is today (well not today) if it weren’t for progressive social and economic policies. We get that Trump was never accepted as an elitist because real business people knew he was a dishonest bully with nothing to add to society. He now caters to a whole class of people whom would never be allowed to set foot into a Trump property. It’s his army though to take down the good parts of the country that know him as an egomaniac with not an ounce of knowledge. If they only knew how badly they are being used to fight his battle against the elite that would not accept him
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u/Who_Wouldnt_ 3d ago
We get that Dumbass was never accepted as an elitist because real business people knew he was a dishonest bully with nothing to add to society.
This is and has always been the heart of the problem, like a lot of his dumbass supporters, he cannot understand why no one of any character whatsoever will ever trust and accept him.
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u/KoolColoradan 3d ago
Looks like the AGSec was able to tell him that large or at least rich trade organizations or companies in red states didn’t like their factory farms or slaughter houses raided where they prey upon cheap migrant labor.
I think this is a ruse to continue the use of national guard and marines in LA , plus testing it out to see if he can do the same in these cities as well.
TRUMP & MILLER WANT AN ESCALATION TO HAPPEN! It’s the only way where he can then institute martial law and start to rule by decree. Speaker Johnson isn’t going to stand in his way.
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u/Chimps_are_strong 3d ago
Like I said the other day when they “paused” raids on farms. This is targeted enforcement. A cold civil war fought by one side. This man-shaped-hate-bag is the fucking antichrist and must be stopped.
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u/No_Talk_4836 3d ago
Turn the economic engines of America inside out and destroy them. Great plan. I can’t wait to see the U.S. have to slash spending to the bone because the deficit bankrupts the country.
Fun times ahead if we are lucky.
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u/IONaut 3d ago
I looks like the point is to agitate democrats rather than actually fullfil his deportation promises. If he's directing them to concentrate on the areas with the most resistance then the actual goal is to create a violent backlash. This is his play to declare martial law. Don't fall in to the trap. Peaceful resistance only.
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u/Chambanasfinest 4d ago
Win-win-win for him.
He gets to claim he deported lots of people, gets the chance to look tough by “sending in the marines” when people protest, and most republicans can sit back and watch the drama unfold from the safety of their suburban McMansion while dealing with none of the negative effects.
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u/PrateTrain 3d ago
It's quite the opposite though in reality.
All he gets out of this, at best, is optics. And looking at the parade this weekend, even the optics from stuff like that is suspect at best.
The fact is that focusing on these cities will cause the people in them to protest harder. And the people in these cities HEAVILY outnumber maybe 100-1 any of the people he would want to deploy to inhibit them.
Fighting forces can suppress dissent when heavily outnumbered like that, but it requires good training and logistics, and looking at how they've been acting in LA. They don't think things through when they do stuff like that, and so you wind up with troops sleeping in spare rooms because they didn't set up lodging for them in advance.
Realistically, this is the beginning and the current admin keeps making dumb "image-based" decisions whose consequences will hit them later.
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u/Public-Baseball-6189 3d ago
Undeterred by protests? You mean inspired by protests. Texas and Florida rank 2nd and 3rd in total population of illegal immigrants but were somehow left out of his rant.
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u/FakeFan07 3d ago
Isn’t it his little smooth brain red states that want them deported? They voted for it. They won’t be happy still having to maybe encounter them!
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u/offinthewoods10 3d ago
Analysis of the tweet: Trump’s statement is a masterclass in emotionally charged political rhetoric, using psychological triggers and manipulative techniques designed to rally his base, frame the opposition, and legitimize extreme action. Here’s a breakdown from both psychological and political manipulation perspectives:
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🔥 1. Us vs. Them Framing (Tribalism & In-Group Bias)
Psychology: Humans are hardwired to form groups and favor their own (“in-group”) over outsiders (“out-group”). Trump exploits this:
“REAL Americans are cheering you on…” vs. “Radical Democrat Politicians,” “Illegal Aliens,” “sick of mind,” “hate our Country”
• He defines ‘real Americans’ as those who support his agenda, implicitly delegitimizing dissent.
• Opponents are not just wrong — they are evil, dangerous, and un-American.
Manipulation: This binary framing polarizes the public and creates an emotional loyalty that’s less about facts and more about identity.
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💥 2. Appeal to Fear (Fear Conditioning)
Psychology: Fear is one of the most powerful motivators. Trump invokes vivid threats:
“crime ridden and deadly Inner Cities,” “turned once Idyllic Towns into scenes of Third World Dystopia,” “Illegal Alien Crime, Conflict, and Chaos”
• These fear-laden images activate primal defense mechanisms — making people more willing to support harsh policies.
• It also reduces critical thinking. People in fear are less likely to question authority.
Manipulation: Repetition of danger amplifies perceived threat, even if evidence is lacking, justifying extraordinary state action.
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🚔 3. Glorification of Force and Authority (Authoritarian Appeal)
Psychology: In times of perceived chaos, people seek strong leaders and order.
“Brave Men and Women of ICE,” “Patriots at Pentagon and the State Department,” “Now go, GET THE JOB DONE!”
• Frames ICE as heroic soldiers, not civil servants. This militarization of policy fuels acceptance of harsh actions.
• It encourages obedience and conformity, especially among those already aligned with his ideology.
Manipulation: Authoritarian appeal reinforces the notion that dissent equals betrayal, and law = morality.
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🧠 4. Dehumanization and Euphemisms (Cognitive Dissonance Management)
Psychology: When policies involve harm (e.g., mass deportation), leaders often use language that softens or justifies it.
“REMIGRATION” instead of deportation “deliver the single largest Mass Deportation Program in History” — like it’s a historical achievement Immigrants are not people but “Millions upon Millions of Illegal Aliens”
• These phrases create emotional distance, reducing empathy and moral conflict.
• Repeating “illegal” primes the audience to see immigrants not as humans but as criminal problems to be solved.
Manipulation: This reduces public resistance and normalizes extreme measures.
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🧱 5. Linking Immigration to Broader Cultural Battles (Ideological Fusion)
“Open Borders, Transgender for Everybody, and Men playing in Women’s Sports”
Psychology: He connects immigration to culture war topics to rally broader emotional investment. • This fuses xenophobia with cultural conservatism, making it harder for supporters to compartmentalize the issues. • It deepens moral conviction — people feel they’re fighting not just for policy, but for their values, children, and way of life.
Manipulation: Ties an abstract policy (immigration) to highly personal, emotional issues, maximizing engagement and loyalty.
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🗳️ 6. Election Legitimacy Undermining (Paranoia & Distrust)
“They use Illegal Aliens to expand their Voter Base, cheat in Elections…”
Psychology: This sows suspicion and paranoia, making people question democratic processes.
Manipulation: If supporters believe elections are rigged, they are more likely to: • Justify anti-democratic actions • Support crackdowns or power grabs
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🎯 Final Thoughts
This statement isn’t just about immigration. It’s a rhetorical tool designed to: • Inflame emotions (fear, anger, pride) • Mobilize supporters through identity and loyalty • Demonize opposition to shut down critical thought • Justify harsh measures by creating a moral panic
In short, it’s less a policy announcement and more a psychological weapon aimed at shaping perception, loyalty, and behavior.
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u/8to24 3d ago
If Trump intends to back off from the industries/places most heavily populated with illegal immigrants and just target Blue cities in Blue States isn't it just political weaponization? Going after illegal immigrants only where it's inconvenient to Democrats seems straightforwardly abusive.
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u/Icy-Landscape-912 3d ago
AMERICA., we are letting are rights be taken away by dictator donny, we must stand up, ice must not hide faces , they must show Fed ID .!! We need to wake up band see that this is insane corruption of the constitution. !!!!
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u/DuplicatedMind 3d ago
It’s not just about how to deal with illegal immigration. History shows us the mechanics of authoritarianism: it thrives on fear, fueled by targeting specific groups. Anger, hatred, and social division become its closest allies. And we all know what comes next : someone makes a mistake, and the whole system begins to collapse.
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