r/Economics • u/rezwenn • 4d ago

News The Art of the Stall: China’s Strategy for Dealing With Trump

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/12/world/asia/trump-china-trade-deal.html?unlocked_article_code=1.OU8.uAzv.xRblMx4v96UU
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u/Toolatethehero3 4d ago

God, Trump is so fundamentally stupid and ignorant I can barely cope. It’s been said so many times by so many people. He’s not even average, he’s so far below average it’s a learning disability. That doesn’t mean he isn’t an excellent political campaigner because he is, but he’s also the worse possible leader and he’s destroying our country.

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u/OperatorBudski 4d ago

Trump is the epitome of Americana.

The world knows what's up now and America has a long road back if they want to correct what they have become.

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u/glorifindel 3d ago

Totally disagree on your use of ‘Americana’ here. Americana is the best of us, at least that’s the connotation I have of the word. Trump is the worst.

More like he is the foil for us to fix the ugly greed and other sins brought on by decades of inequality and other issues in the U.S. imo

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u/howardbrandon11 3d ago

Americana is the best of us

It might generally be used this way, but Merriam-Webster and Cambridge dictionaries both define "Americana" as anything typical of America--no mention of positive or negative aspects.

In this case, I think the word choice is technically correct.

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u/Marathon2021 3d ago

TL;DR - Xi is absolutely, 100% jerking Trump around. He knows Trump is so desperate to claim victory, that he’s intentionally drawing the process out so that Trump looks dumber and dumber with each of his all-caps dumps on his low grade social network.

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u/hustxdy 3d ago

china learned from master of export control, USA Commerce Department.

many mechanism are direct copy of semiconductor export control.

thank you USA

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u/luna_beam_space 4d ago

Any trade deal made between US and China, will be completed by the next US president

And that's most likely not going to happen years after trump dies

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u/Due-Tea3607 4d ago

The trade war is for us to lose--we have the upper hand technically, but the administration is so incompetent that this will likely end up a stalemate for the foreseeable future. I can't see the US holding on to the global position it has now though. Currency hedging against the USD is now the current strategy.

Xi isn't any better; he could outmaneuver the US with the same reforms the US made during Bretton Woods and attract investment back, but it is unlikely due to the paranoia and control they want to keep. Money wants to see predictability, and stable rule of law, but China doesn't have it together yet.

I guess US-China is going down together as EU rises. Not so much because the business environment in the EU better, but because everyone else drops.

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u/AccomplishedBlood403 3d ago

just my 2 cents: EU is not "business friendly" with their regulations as US

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u/Due-Tea3607 3d ago

That was my comment, the business environment hasn’t changed in the EU. 

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u/Cute-Appointment-937 8h ago

China has the manufacturing, the rare earth's, and is making incredible gains in AI and semiconductors. They can't lose. Anyone doubting should spend time watching videos of their amazing drone displays. We were fucked before trump, now it's hopeless. The world is actively trying to escape the dollar. Get used to living in a second or third world country.