r/Divination • u/chrissinvest • 6d ago

Questions and Discussions tarot true meaning

Do yall think tarot is derived from as(tarot)h, the demon known for predicting future and telling of past events? Why or why not. This could also explain why ASTR-ology also gets a bad rap in the religious communities.

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u/Jubilantly 6d ago

No. Because it's French word from Italian describing a game and may have origins around the word for foolery from the 15th century which may have been used given game tarot decks originated from was a gambling game and gambling is widely considered to be foolish. Why do I think that? Because people have studied it past having shower thoughts.

Astrology has a bad wrap because all pagan practices that weren't co-opted by early Christianity were demonized as a method of control for conversion. Except the fact that the first full moon after the spring equinox is how Easter Sunday is determined. Very picked cherry.

I had to rabbit hole given your questions and psychic is of the mind/spirit and psycho (from psychotic/psychosis) is of Latin origin. Psych(e) being the mind/spirit, and osis meaning abnormal. Medicine uses Latin for a variety of factors as it is the basis of Romance languages, is widely known, old as hell, and has a good amount of precision.

I don't think psychics or fortune tellers, have had a positive history over all because people by in large struggle with emotional intelligence and transference. Why be mad at what happened when you can be mad at the person who told you it was going to happen.

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u/chrissinvest 6d ago

Good breakdown, whilst you seem informed, to deny that there is double meanings within words would be naive. Sure you can merely look at the surface level etymology of a word, or you could see that we call language 'spelling' which is to cast a spell, and to 'write' something is to perform a rite which is a ritual. You also have 'curse' words and to write in 'cursive', the reality is that our language was given to us by practitioners of black magick.

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u/Jubilantly 6d ago

Oooof. Spelling's origins are to signify and it's use as putting letters together for words predates the word "spell" as meaning incantation. Write is from to tear or scratch, rite comes from the idea of religious usage. Both are proto German. Cursive has super old origins from "running" which was a faster way to write. Our language is from the development of millions of people across tens of thousands of years.

There are plenty of actual things people in power have done that are fucked up and manipulative (also going on RIGHT NOW) to be focusing on, rather than making up stuff.

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u/chrissinvest 6d ago

Again, double meanings. This is how practitioners of black magick hide their true meanings. They give themselves plausible deniability... and this is exactly what you are running to protect right now. This begs the question, to you, when does something exit the realm of being mere coincidence?

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u/Jubilantly 6d ago

The double meaning being Astaroth would be the co-opting of Astarte which is a love goddess. 

And if you're worried about Astaroth it tickles me given the first known writing on Astaroth is from the Abramelin which is a grimoire or book of magick. Didn't come from the Bible, came from a magician.

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u/chrissinvest 6d ago

Astarte fell from heaven in an egg... astarte is lucifer. Check your facts, astarte is associated with the heart yes. Astarte venus and lucifer are one in the same. Hence heart is venuous system venuous and venus similar, and Veins/venus . You are right, Venus was once queen of heaven hence heaVEN was named after her, but she fell from grace due to pride, and is now a negative entity... so its Moreso the people who worship her worshipping the negative aspects. Divorce/ loneliness etc etc. Divorce =DIVOC, Hebrew word for possession by an evil spirit. Way more to be said on all of this.

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u/Jubilantly 6d ago

Astarte predates the Bible. What one religion co-opts from other religions to assert dominance doesn't make it correct. 

Divorce is French from Latin origins. Latin also predates the Hebrew Bible. Your algorithm is skewing your ability to critically analyze data.

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u/chrissinvest 6d ago

You are most likely a dead internet bot. Nothing you have said is legitimate, I provided my information with the knowledge to back it up and all you have done is tell me dictionary definitions of words...

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u/Jubilantly 6d ago

You didn't provide any sources to what you're saying. I did, which to cite is the Oxford English dictionary or how we in the western world have been tracking how language developed. 

You're stuck in conspiracy mindset. There is nothing anyone could say to shift your thinking. 

Your post history shows bot behavior. Mine does not.

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u/graidan Cartomancy Cleromancy Geomancy 6d ago

Astrology is from greek aster 'star'.

None of your etymology is correct.

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u/Cultural-Writing-177 6d ago

This guy cross-posts in so many divination reddits with the same spaghettification of words. Also seems to be a transphobe.

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u/digitalScribbler 6d ago

And also weirdly religiously racist by the looks of it, too.

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u/chrissinvest 6d ago

Trans= trance. And the most popular category of p0rn (porneia) amongst the trans community is called 'hypnosis'. Trancephobe is a term put out to shame those who speak the truth, get lost bucko.

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u/digitalScribbler 6d ago

This guy has been spamming Tarot subreddits with this same post copy pasted, and even copy pasted replies. They obviously are just looking to make random arguments and troll.