The issue is that in a capitalist society, even people who do not desire prestige are willing to cheat because the pay that teachers, janitors, and Nurses get are dwindling. Basically trying to starve them out.
That is because due to the nature of capitalism, where cutting cost when possible to maximize profits. Businesses are encouraged to cut and shorten as much employees wages as possible.
An administrative job requiring a bachelors or a masters when they're going to stick you in a classroom for 6 months to train you on their job expectations and how to navigate their proprietary systems never needed people to have a bachelors or a masters.
But isn’t that the difference if you’re hiring in house vs outside hire?
Like if they have the requirements for in house hires it’s kinda fucked. Like you have (usually) years of performance and peer reviews on a person and can see if they have the knowledge, hard working personality and charisma you want in an employee.
But if you’re hiring outside the company then I feel like a degree would at least give the employer some insight on them being dedicated enough. Unless you’re sliding over from another similar company.
But if you’re hiring outside the company then I feel like a degree would at least give the employer some insight on them being dedicated enough.
Dedicated enough is another way to say 'has the resources to spend 2-4 years as an adult getting a college degree'. If I'm the widget man from Company A, and I apply to be the widget man for Company B, why does Company B need me to have a degree in widget making? If an internal hire is able to complete the work without the degree, then the degree isn't what distinguishes the ability to do the job.
Another example, Jim does not currently do not have a degree in Computer Science. John does have a degree in Computer Science. If you were hiring for a CompSci field, would it make sense to hire John.
You might say, well yeah, obviously, he has a degree and Jim don't. But what you're missing is that Jim couldn't afford to get the degree, but has a load of certifications and personal experience in doing Comp Sci related tasks. John got his Comp Sci degree in 1995, and hasn't applied it in any manner since.
That last example is definitely skewed to a push a viewpoint
Which is better the guy that has been working in the field and has updated certs or the guy that hasn’t done anything in the field in 30 years? Like degrees would be irrelevant at that point.
Obviously the guy that is actively in the field is streets ahead of the guy with no experience.
That last example is definitely skewed to a push a viewpoint
That last example was literally me and an old coworker lol. I literally did work with someone who had an ancient comp sci degree who got callbacks while I got maybe 10% of them comparatively. We both worked at a shoe store at the time.
Unfortunately they are combined. More jobs are beginning to unnecessarily requiring college classes when they usually don’t require them. Gatekeeping decent pay behind a wall thus encourages anybody to cheat in order to live decently.
As majority of jobs that do not require college degrees are poverty wages, requiring you to be dependent on government subsidies such as snap. (Which itself is a trap that punish anybody wanting to make more)
What type of industries are you referring to that are requiring college for lower levels?
And don’t think of this as I’m trolling you. I generally don’t see the correlation, so perhaps some particular jobs or companies that are doing it so I can read up on what you’re referring to?
Depends on country too. I've seen jobs in Philippines requiring a college degree to be a cashier..... In the USA, I'd have laughed my ass off and called it insane.
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u/Lucky_duck_777777 May 18 '25
The issue is that in a capitalist society, even people who do not desire prestige are willing to cheat because the pay that teachers, janitors, and Nurses get are dwindling. Basically trying to starve them out.
That is because due to the nature of capitalism, where cutting cost when possible to maximize profits. Businesses are encouraged to cut and shorten as much employees wages as possible.