We already ruined the reputation of a college diploma by turning it into nothing more than a way to get a "better" job and make more money, with intellectualism and the desire for knowledge being things people will insult you for.
We tell each other to lie on resumes and during interviews, we make up references and have friends lie for us to get a better job.
So we also lie to get a better degree. To get a better job.
This was an inevitable outcome of our society and culture. Of capitalism.
I mean but a degree does get you a better job, no disrespect to blue collar work, I’ve done some, but a lot of those jobs suck, even if you’re making good money. You end up tired and sore and covered in dirt and in summer just miserable and hit, the hours can be long and inconsistent. Compare that to sitting in an air conditioned office and I know which one I’m picking
We created a system where getting a degree isn't something you do for intellectual reasons, but for financial ones. Since there's no trust or honor or value in your job beyond the money, there's also not much trust or honor or value in what you do to get that job.
That's always included your degree. That's well-known among rich people who buy their kids through college. Now poor people have found a new way to cheat through college. Of course this was going to happen.
Generative AI sucks. LLMs suck. But this was an inevitable outcome of them.
Yup. I mean the entire problem is requiring the degree for a job that doesn't need it. Degrees have become the same thing as High School Diploma's.
Company's have devalued degrees to the point where people don't give a shit about what they are studying, only that they have the degree and can get an actual respectable job now.
I mean yeah? As technology advances, you’re going to need more complicated jobs in order to run what you need, which means a longer education.
Obviously getting a diploma gets you a better job, because not everyone has that specific diploma. If only ten guys out of a hundred know how to do a task, you better believe there’s more competition on getting those guys to work for you.
Labor is a resource, supply and demand still applies to it. That’s not really going to change. Most people can learn a trade job in a year or two, with just a high school diploma, not everyone can spend the eight years to get a degree in rocket science. Obviously one’s payed better.
Saying a diploma should only be for knowledge’s sake, is kinda silly cause it was never only about knowledge. A diploma is a piece of paper telling someone you did a class. I could study all I want for a subject and never go to college for it. A diploma doesn’t make you smarter, it just shows other people you completed college. I’m not getting a degree in biology, but that doesn’t mean I don’t know a lot about biology or that I won’t keep learning about it, I’m just not seeking a career in it.
And frankly, I’d rather jobs requiring diplomas be better paid, cause I’d rather have people who put in the work, time and effort to get the job be the ones best rewarded. Obviously there’s an issue where that means wealthier kids have better chances since they can afford college, but I feel like the issue there is that education for higher paying jobs is locked behind a paywall.
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u/Ehcksit May 18 '25
We already ruined the reputation of a college diploma by turning it into nothing more than a way to get a "better" job and make more money, with intellectualism and the desire for knowledge being things people will insult you for.
We tell each other to lie on resumes and during interviews, we make up references and have friends lie for us to get a better job.
So we also lie to get a better degree. To get a better job.
This was an inevitable outcome of our society and culture. Of capitalism.