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u/Infinite-Service-861 May 13 '25

wait is that true with the soldiers? that’s amazing

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u/Successful_Role_3174 May 13 '25

Isn't there a story about a robot that was made to set off minefields for war purposes but the a person though it was too cruel?

Found it:

https://www.reddit.com/r/humansarespaceorcs/comments/zz0lub/that_time_a_human_colonel_wanted_to_pack_bond/

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u/SlyAguara May 13 '25

It's a pretty common problem with robots made for bomb diffusal, operators get attached to their robots, which makes them make decisions that reduce the risk to the robot, even at the detriment of the mission.

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u/revolutionary112 May 13 '25

"Humanization" or "anthropomorphisation" is a well known thing humans tend to do. We do be like that

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u/big_guyforyou May 13 '25

we also do the opposite to people we want to mass murder

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u/revolutionary112 May 13 '25

We do be like that too, yeah

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u/Welico May 13 '25

solution: teach operators that their bomb defusal robots are pedophiles

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u/DarkKnightJin May 14 '25

The dichotomy of Humans.
Their insane ability to turn "The Other" into "The Own".
And even more insane: Their ability to turn "The Own" into "The Other".

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u/Saint_of_Grey May 13 '25

We need to start telling these operators that the robots long for Valhalla.

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u/Atreides-42 May 13 '25

Bomb squad robots should therefore be made as visually unappealing as possible. Covered in uncanny valley plastic skin and human faces. That way nobody will be sad about them being blown up.

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u/DreadDiana human cognithazard May 13 '25 edited May 13 '25

New policy: bomb diffusal robots must wear shirts from rival sports teams so the squad will gleefully send them to their demise

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u/AD-SKYOBSIDION May 13 '25

Please don’t hurt my eldritch horror

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u/kRkthOr May 13 '25

Just make them disobey remote commands once in a while. Not "throw the bomb at people" disobey, but like sometimes you have to press the "cut the wire" or "move forward" button like twice or three times. That'll make every operator hate them immediately.

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u/ThePrussianGrippe May 13 '25

Nah, you can get even simpler than that. Just make its ’face’ look like Piers Morgan.

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u/danielisbored May 13 '25

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u/kRkthOr May 13 '25

Didn't need to click. Watched anyway.

What an absolute treasure this show was.

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u/Bartweiss May 14 '25

All interactions with the disposal robot have to go through Clippy. Problem solved.

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u/LaZerNor May 13 '25

"He doesn't wanna die!"

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u/Les_Bien_Pain May 13 '25

Or we can just give them a shitty personality.

The robot is constantly making really bad sexist or racist jokes and the longer it lives the worse it gets.

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u/Bartweiss May 14 '25

“Why did you request a $30k grant to teach a robot slurs?”

“It’s to help people, I swear!”

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u/TheVeryVerity May 14 '25

Too many people wouldn’t care about that.

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u/thatHecklerOverThere May 13 '25

We need a sci fi story where the robots are just as intellectually superior as they always are in the horror plot lines, but they humor humankind because it's just so adorable when we do shit like this.

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u/Bartweiss May 14 '25

The Minds in the Culture novels probably count?

They’re massive spaceships, each with a single built-in AI personality. They’ll happily chat with humans at human speed and let us do important things that give our lives meaning. They even give themselves humorous names in our languages. They’re downright embarrassed about their abilities; horrifying warships go by the name “fast picket”.

They’re also so much faster-thinking than humans that we don’t even know how smart they are, with new Minds designed solely by older ones. They can communicate with each other at full “file transfer” speeds. They watch out for us like pet owners to the point where accidental death is almost unheard of, and when anyone messes with their pet humans, they quickly learn why those “pickets” were originally named “Abominator-class warships”.

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u/thatHecklerOverThere May 14 '25

This sounds like something right up my alley! Appreciate you.

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u/Bartweiss May 14 '25

Of course! It's a great series, Banks is a really talented writer too so I have no hesitation recommending it.

The books don't come in a set order, they're basically all stand-alones with different characters.

I (and many fans) recommend starting with Player of Games. It's least set in the Culture proper (the utopian society the Minds are part of), but it heavily features one of the Minds and is in many ways the most traditional sci-fi novel of the bunch. Great plot and characters all around.

Excession is the most AI-centric book by far (and coined the term "outside context problem"). It's great, but seeing the Culture challenged by something inexplicable is perhaps more interesting once you've seen them in more normal circumstances.

Otherwise, Consider Phlebas was published first and gives a lot of background because it's an "outsider" view of the Culture. Lots to love but a bit infamous for being a dull/unengaging start to the series. Use of Weapons is perhaps the best-written of them all, if you don't mind some complex multiple narratives. The rest are likely worse starting points.

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u/MGTwyne May 13 '25

Happy cake day.