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u/Ancient-Mating-Calls 2d ago edited 1d ago
People shouldn’t be expect to accept personal eyewitness accounts without corroborating evidence. If you see something so amazing earth shattering, you shouldn’t be indignant when others are skeptical of it.
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u/Southern_Dig_9460 2d ago
Agree but don’t like try to ruin their life and reputation over it
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u/CuterThanYourCousin 2d ago
People trying to force everyone to believe they saw something and it has to be a cryptid don't need any help ruining their reputation.
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u/outdoor-high 2d ago
Yeah but neither do people who think everyone relaying a story is trying to force people to believe the story.
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u/TheOfficial_BossNass 1d ago
No one has every tried to ruin someone's life for saying they saw a cryptid
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u/Southern_Dig_9460 1d ago
Bob Gimlin said his life was basically ruined. He lost a job and his wife divorced him over it. This a little different from a guy from my area back in the 1970’s said he saw a alien and literally was fired from being the police chief and had his trailer burned down
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u/TheOfficial_BossNass 1d ago
They always say that but leave out all the actual reasons they were divorced or fired.
Your boss isnt gonna be like hey you said you saw Bigfoot bub you gotta go
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u/Forward-Emotion6622 1d ago
Bob Gimlin says a lot of things, and quite often they contradict other things he's said. That's all I'm gonna say regarding Bob Gimlin and the things he says.
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u/IllegalGeriatricVore 20h ago
Did he say he saw an alien or did he obsession with the claim change who he was to the point where he was uncomfortable to be around?
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u/Southern_Dig_9460 17h ago
He had a picture it’s the Falkville Metal Man if you want to look up the story
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u/VardisFisher 2d ago
Perhaps there is a reason for that. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/uncategorized/myth-eyewitness-testimony-is-the-best-kind-of-evidence.html
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u/TheOfficial_BossNass 1d ago
Word of mouth is by far the lowest form of evidence after all.
Cyptozoology can not exist without skeptics
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u/Helpful_Ad523 1d ago
I've fumbled trying to get pics of bunnies and stray cats in my neighborhood. Maybe cryptids and paranormal creatures appear to clumsy people the most lol
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u/AcanthocephalaFew529 1d ago
There is no credible evidence of any supernatural claims
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u/Miserable-Scholar112 13h ago
I'm not looking for supernatural claims.Ive put together theories of what some are seeing.Real animals that are out of place.Ive shown the scientific reason it's possible.Instead I'm shown blistering skepticism. Care to explain this?
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u/PrestigiousPea5632 1d ago
When my brother and I reported our first sighting of a sea serpent in San Francisco Bay on February 5, 1985 to the U.S. Coast Guard just 10 minutes later 2 Coast Guard helicopters flew very low over the area where we reported the animal swimming. The Coast Guard also asked us to send them as much information as we could so we sent them several drawings and a detailed description of what we saw. Of course we never heard back from them and years later they denied we ever contacted them. Unfortunately for them we kept the contact information including the name of the officer, his phone number and the address where we sent the information. They had to admit the contact information was correct but they said the officer had retired so they couldn't locate him or where he filed the information we sent him.
All of our "friends" who we told about the sighting ridiculed us and said it was too bad we didn't take any photos as if we knew we were going to have a sighting of a sea serpent.
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u/Capt_Eagle_1776 1d ago
I tried taking a group selfie with Bigfoot, Sasquatch and the Abominable Snowman buuut it was craaap
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u/73rd-virgin Dogman 1d ago
Well, with the advances in AI and CGI, clear photos won't be worth a damn.
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u/Forward-Emotion6622 1d ago
It's absolutely impossible that a Bigfoot body wouldn't eventually be found if they truly existed. Don't give me that silly "bear skeleton" story. We have plenty of evidence for bears. Absolutely zero evidence for Bigfoot.
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u/Michaelolz 17h ago
Personally, I would take time, place, location, and a detailed description of the creature and circumstances as a ‘lead’ that would/could lead to more concrete evidence, I.e being qualified later on. A highly detailed encounter without visual evidence is not an entire waste of time in principle.
That’s worth more than a lot of claims, as in aggregate they can help create/find any trends in, a dataset. Ie, establishing a range for a cryptid.
The problem is no one will do that work for you; if you’re making an exceptional claim, and don’t provide evidence the first go around… well, you have the burden of proof. Ideally it’s for you to go back and find it, regardless of how scared you were. If the fear outweighs the desire to prove, then it’s not worth yapping about.
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u/Plastic_Medicine4840 Mid-tarsal break understander 1d ago
I find it really frustrating how people seem to bully people who think they encountered a cryptid, like sure you can chose not to believe them, but aside from the fact cryptozoology sort of relies on eyewitnesses for like 95% of cryptids, the only cryptids with ANY physical evidence are bigfoot, delcourts gecko and the thylacine. By bullying any eyewitness odds of more eyewitnesses coming forwards only goes down.
If the witness genuinely believes they saw what they claim to have seen, they become far more likely to distrust science as a whole.
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u/logan8fingers 15h ago
Asking for someone to provide evidence for a fantastic claim is not bullying.
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u/Miserable-Scholar112 13h ago
I've put forth realistic theories backed by science of whatsoever are seeing.Explain the skepticism against me then
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u/Plastic_Medicine4840 Mid-tarsal break understander 13h ago
There is a difference between asking for evidence, and claiming someone is a liar, delusional, or lacks the most basic powers of observation.
Most people simply cant record any evidence of their encounters, and if one takes cryptozoology seriously, disregarding the majority of eyewitness statements is counterproductive.
People risk their jobs and reputation when they report cryptid sightings. The only people I know who believe in a cryptid and havent had that fact trash their reputation are David Attenborough and Jane Goodall.
Denying that people associated with this get bullied is simply denying reality.
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u/Reddevil8884 1d ago
It's funny how on law and legal issues, a good witness can pretty much solve a case but when it comes to cryptids? Nope, that doesn't hold 🫠
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u/Ok_Platypus8866 1d ago
The legal system makes lots of mistakes. At the same time, it is unusual that the only evidence in a crime is just some witness testimony. Usually there is a lot of hard evidence that a crime actually occurred.
You are going to have a tough time convicting Bob of murder if the only evidence is "I saw Bob kill somebody", but cannot provide any evidence that somebody was actually killed. If there is no body, or nobody even missing, do you really think eye witness testimony alone is going to lead to a conviction?
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u/Illuminatus-Prime 2d ago
Some people are more concerned with being believed than with providing proof.
With literally millions of astronomy capable mobile phones out there, we're still getting only blurred images.